
@Edano nope I searched everywhere
by elainekirk 10/20/2011 9:10:56 PM

@Edano Gah - Kyodo News - big teasers. Will keep an eye out for the actual story
by lillymunster 10/20/2011 9:19:00 PM

by lillymunster 10/20/2011 9:26:01 PM

From NRC
SUB..IECT: SUMMARY OF OCTOBER 7, 2011, MEETING WITH BEYOND NUCLEAR
REGARDING THEIR 10 CFR 2.206 PETITION TO SUSPEND OPERATING
LICENSES (OLs) OF GENERAL ELECTRIC (GE) MARK I BOILING WATER
REACTORS (BWRs) (TAC NO. ME6040)
On October 7,2011, a Category 3 public meeting was held between the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) and representatives of the Beyond Nuclear at NRC Headquarters, One White Flint North, 11555 Rockville Pike, Rockville, Maryland. The list of attendees is provided as Enclosure 2.
On April 13, 2011, Mr. Paul Gunter and Mr. Kevin Kamps representing Beyond Nuclear, hereafter called as the petitioners, submitted a petition pursuant to Title 10 of the Code of Federal Regulations (10 CFR) 2.206 regarding the suspension of OLs of GE Mark 1 BWRs.
The petitioners addressed the NRC Petition Review Board (PRB) on June 8, 2011. The PRB recommendations were transmitted to the petitioners bye-mai l on August 16, 2011. The purpose of the October 7, 2011, meeting was to provide the petitioners a second opportunity to address the NRC PRB.
As described in Management Directive 8.11, "Review Process for 10 CFR 2.206 Petitions," the petitioners are provided the second opportunity to address the PRB in order to provide any relevant additional explanation and support for the petition in advance of the PRB's final evaluation. The meeting was recorded by the NRC's Operations Center and transcribed by a
court reporter. The transcript is provided as Enclosure 3.
Members of the public were in attendance by teleconference. Public Meeting Feedback forms
were not received.
by lillymunster 10/20/2011 9:27:30 PM

Of course public feedback forms were not received - there was no process for them. Of course they don't mention any of the emails I know people sent on the subject....
by lillymunster 10/20/2011 9:28:57 PM

@lillymunster mmm
by elainekirk 10/20/2011 9:34:54 PM

RT @kevinmeyerson: #S.Carolina #nuclear dump becoming permanent?
- wonder when SC will get an 'unplanned criticality'?
bit.lyby elainekirk 10/20/2011 10:00:24 PM

@elainekirk Make the executives at Excelon, Areva, GE etc. store it at their house. :-)
Maybe the Congressional parking garage since they want to keep making this a political issue?
by lillymunster 10/20/2011 10:14:15 PM

@lillymunster yes on their blummin doorsteps
by elainekirk 10/20/2011 10:36:43 PM

From the Business Week article Audi-tek posted on the other page.
Tepco in 2002 admitted it had falsified maintenance reports at nuclear plants for more than two decades. Chairman Hiroshi Araki and President Nobuya Minami resigned to take responsibility. In 2007, the utility said it hadn’t come entirely clean five years earlier and admitted to concealing at least six emergency stoppages at Dai-Ichi
and a “critical” reaction at the plant’s No. 3 unit that lasted seven hours.
www.businessweek.comby lillymunster 10/20/2011 10:41:02 PM

@lillymunster and they still let them load mox
by elainekirk 10/20/2011 10:58:15 PM

@elainekirk @elainekirk first heard of the incident
by lillymunster 10/21/2011 12:07:26 AM

@lillymunster yup they will have bowed to each other and made a gentlemans agreement
by elainekirk 10/21/2011 12:15:34 AM

@elainekirk I was rather floored. Will have to see if I can find what happened.
by lillymunster 10/21/2011 12:20:57 AM

by lillymunster 10/21/2011 12:29:48 AM

Aaaaaahhhhhhh!
TEPCO’s internal probe located a memo written by an engineer of Toshiba Corporation, a manufacturer of the plant, that control rods fell off and an increase in neutrons was observed. TEPCO’s duty staff at that time also admitted this.
TEPCO also announced that control rods fell off at the same power station’s No. 5 reactor in 1979 and No. 2 reactor in 1980, but that in both cases the reactors did not reach criticality. Again, no report on these incidents was filed to the government.
On Tuesday, Tepco said two control rods came off at its Fukushima No. 2 nuclear plant's No. 3 reactor in June 1993 and at the Kashiwazaki-Kariwa plant's No. 1 reactor in Niigata Prefecture in April 2000 during suspensions for routine checks.
Last week, it was revealed that in 1999 one of Hokuriku Electric Power Co.'s reactors in Ishikawa Prefecture suffered a self-sustaining chain reaction that lasted 15 minutes after control rods fell off.
Good gravy I think I need a drink.
by lillymunster 10/21/2011 12:32:00 AM

somehow i get the feeling that japanese mentality and therefore the public and political controlling does not go well with nukes. they should look for different toys, pokemon or gameboys maybe.
by Edano 10/21/2011 12:42:26 AM

Oh and the shrouds in all of them were cracked.
cnic.jpby lillymunster 10/21/2011 12:43:34 AM

@Edano In 2007 those article all are highly critical of METI and warn that the lack of real meaningful oversight is a disaster waiting to happen.
People tried to warn the country, but those warnings were ignored or more likely brushed under the table with a suitcase of political donations.
by lillymunster 10/21/2011 12:44:09 AM

the public says oh they are doing fine, everything is safe, the politics say give us your money and we won't control you, and the nukies are happy. the nuke ministry is part of the economic ministry and happy too.
by Edano 10/21/2011 12:46:07 AM

Cracks in the unit 4 core shroud found in 1993. Now being dealt with in 2011?
by lillymunster 10/21/2011 12:46:41 AM

Makes me wonder if any re-shrouding is going on in the US or if they are even inspecting them.
by lillymunster 10/21/2011 12:47:51 AM

meti was heavily criticized for the tokai accident in 1999. yet nothing has happened. the fuku disaster was only a logical consequence. and i see no signs that this will be the last one.
by Edano 10/21/2011 12:50:55 AM

WTH!
'100 workers present at criticality accident'
The No. 2 reactor at Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power station went critical in October 1984, as about 100 workers were still within the reactor container during a regular checkup, it was revealed Friday.
203.129.195.106by lillymunster 10/21/2011 12:55:38 AM

@Edano Unless something massive changes it will happen again. Seeing the insane way the NRC has been operating I wouldn't discount one here. It is like there are two factions at the NRC, one trying to do the job and another making sure they don't.
by lillymunster 10/21/2011 12:56:51 AM

It also was reported to the agency that a problem during a regular inspection of the No. 2 reactor of the Tsuruga nuclear power station, and the accidental dislodging of 34 control rods in the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power station, which were found to have occurred in 1997 and 1998 respectively, had been concealed.
TEPCO failed to report a problem in the No. 4 reactor of the plant in Fukushima Prefecture, in which 34 of 137 control rods were accidentally dislodged.
(Mar. 31, 2007
by lillymunster 10/21/2011 1:02:35 AM

@lillymunster @Edano it is all there when you start digging isnt it and the idea the other day of simplyinfo having a youtube vid well a timeline of tepco 'happenings' would be a good one??
by elainekirk 10/21/2011 1:10:44 AM

@elainekirk I'm going to try to at least write something up on this mess. I wouldn't have caught it if Audi-Tek hadn't posted that Business Week article.
by lillymunster 10/21/2011 1:11:46 AM

@lillymunster I will do a spreadsheet in google with date and link then if we find anything we can quickly see if we do or don't have it?
by elainekirk 10/21/2011 1:15:54 AM

@lillymunster we could do a tepco and a japan and a global?
by elainekirk 10/21/2011 1:18:10 AM

by lillymunster 10/21/2011 1:26:11 AM

Even more on the shroud cracks and other TEPCO oops's
cnic.jpby lillymunster 10/21/2011 1:27:15 AM

@lillymunster okies
by elainekirk 10/21/2011 1:27:31 AM

Oh this is good:
All Japan Council of Local Governments with
Atomic Power Stations--an organization to help
support local governments solve issues arising
from the presence of nuclear power plants--is
promoting a "Spent Nuclear Fuel Tax" scheme.
Revenue from the fixed property value tax
on nuclear power plants has been decreasing
sharply.
States in the US should be doing that.
by lillymunster 10/21/2011 1:35:14 AM

@lillymunster oh yes
by elainekirk 10/21/2011 1:36:59 AM

started the spreadsheet
by elainekirk 10/21/2011 1:45:34 AM

Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) secretly replaced a control rod drive actuator in the No. 4 reactor at its Fukushima No. 2 nuclear power plant and even had the plant maker, Hitachi, produce a device marked with the same production number of the spare parts used in the replacement, so that the replacement could be kept secret. TEPCO revealed this in a report which it submitted to the government on April 6.
According to TEPCO, a drive actuator was broken by mistake during the first regular inspection in October 1988. Reporting this to the state was a prerequisite for the replacement with a spare, but the company carried out the replacement without reporting it.
Before the second regular inspection scheduled for January 1990, TEPCO ordered Hitachi to produce a device with the same production number as the replaced spare in order to be consistent with the record on stocked spare parts. TEPCO said that this device was returned to Hitachi after the inspection had been completed.
The power company also ordered Hitachi to produce a device with the same production number as the broken one, and had it installed during the second regular inspection without reporting this to the state.
www.japan-press.co.jpby lillymunster 10/21/2011 1:59:46 AM

@lillymunster and these are only the ones that do come to light and how many reactors is hitatchi involved with in USA
by elainekirk 10/21/2011 2:02:52 AM

@lillymunster they didnt just break the rules for tepco.....
by elainekirk 10/21/2011 2:03:34 AM

@elainekirk More shenanigans
Hokuriku Electric muzzles criticality accident
It was revealed that when a criticality accident occurred at Hokuriku Electric Power Co.’s Shika nuclear power plant No. 1 reactor on June 18, 1999, a power company operator made an inquiry by phone to an engineer of the plant maker, Hitachi, about the reactor condition.
According to a report that Hitachi submitted to the government, the Hitachi engineer received a phone call at his home before dawn of June 18, immediately after the accident. The operator asked him for an analysis of the reactor condition when three control rods fell off, informing him of detailed information about the position of the rods and the condition of the fuel. Then, he went to his office and made an analysis together with his superior. They reached the conclusion that the reactor has reached criticality, and conveyed this to the Shika plant operator.
Without informing anyone of the criticality accident, the Shika plant operator asked the Hitachi engineer to not report their conversation to anybody, including his supervisor. Although the engineer suspected that a criticality accident might occur, the information was not disclosed in the company.
www.japan-press.co.jp by lillymunster 10/21/2011 2:04:43 AM

@lillymunster I am thinking that maybe doing all japan because everybody knows fuku is fuku'ed so it wont have the same impact as the whole country ?
by elainekirk 10/21/2011 2:08:37 AM

@elainekirk TEPCO did the bulk of them. There are some doozies at other plants
by lillymunster 10/21/2011 2:11:22 AM

if there is a map gaining a pin with each new report then the concentrations on tepco npps will make sure there were plenty of warning signs that tepco were not observing safety rules
by elainekirk 10/21/2011 2:12:17 AM

@lillymunster yup I seee what you mean I will collect all that you find get them in spreadsheet put company in a column then we can decide if all or just tepco be most effective?
by elainekirk 10/21/2011 2:14:00 AM

@elainekirk sounds like a plan. I also don't see anything talking about Toshiba resolving the issue.
by lillymunster 10/21/2011 2:14:43 AM