Japan Earthquake

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@Edano KK is a newer plant too. The ones from the 60's were part ignorance.
by lillymunster 10/22/2011 8:28:28 PM

@lillymunster , My impression is that they believed that the margine in design base is sufficiently great that they had nothing to worry. Also the design base seismic spectra are calculated with a synthesis of the time histories from past earthquakes and is therefore highly location dependent. Perhaps they figured that a quake like the NCO could not happen at Fukushima.
by Peter 10/22/2011 8:28:33 PM

i hope the emergency diesels are on top of that little hill in the center. o lord.
by Edano 10/22/2011 8:29:48 PM

@Peter Oh TEPCO kept telling NISA they were going to do upgrades. The problem was that NISA gave them a vague directive in the manner of asking them to do some earthquake upgrades without specifying what ones or making it more than a request.

TEPCO did a couple of cosmetic things around the plant and kept telling NISA they would get around to dealing with the rest effectively putting it off indefinitely
by lillymunster 10/22/2011 8:30:28 PM

@Edano that would be worth investigating, if KK is set up with generators in a safe area, level above sea level the buildings sit, is electrical systems in the basements ala fuku? IIRC KK is one of the more likely ones to restart if they allow them to.
by lillymunster 10/22/2011 8:31:52 PM

the KK doc is highly interesting. in fact, you cannot find the word 'tsunami' in it. i hope they have another risk study for this scenario.
by Edano 10/22/2011 8:43:24 PM

the entire doc makes me shiver for its ignorant techno-speak. they believe they can handle seismic events by reinforcements. they do not think laterally. it is very poor.
by Edano 10/22/2011 8:52:33 PM

Hey just found another interesting piece that will bolster the idea that the Japanese reactor design is safe as long as there is power. Reuters reports: "A nuclear plant in northeast Japan that survived the tsunami may now serve as a trump card for the nuclear lobby -- an example that it is possible for nuclear facilities to withstand even the greatest shocks and to retain public trust." www.reuters.com
by Peter 10/22/2011 8:54:29 PM

Fillon inspects disaster-hit areas

Visiting French Prime Minister Francois Fillon has inspected disaster-hit areas in Japan's Miyagi Prefecture.

Fillon arrived in Sendai from South Korea on Saturday, and visited Ishinomaki City, which was severely damaged by tsunami.

He met Mayor Hiroshi Kameyama who described the disaster from a hill overlooking the city, and laid flowers in front of a billboard set up by residents.

Fillon told a group of volunteers that people around the world continue to be supportive of Japan.

He later told reporters that, although he hears Japan's economy is showing signs of recovery, it will take more time for people's hearts to heal.

He said France is prepared to help Japan both in psychological and material terms.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy visited Japan 20 days after the disaster, and the country sent a team to help with the nuclear accident in Fukushima.

Fillon is scheduled meet Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda on Sunday to discuss ways to enhance safety at nuclear power plants and deal with credit worries in Europe.

Saturday, October 22, 2011 22:42 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 10/22/2011 9:16:05 PM

@Peter @Edano a load a lying self serving prima donna's
by elainekirk 10/22/2011 9:19:32 PM

High-level radioactive cesium detected in soil in Kashiwa

CHIBA, Japan, Oct. 22, Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano 10/22/2011 9:42:49 PM

@Edano it is going to become a living hell
by elainekirk 10/22/2011 9:51:38 PM

@Edano France really wants to help they can send decontamination crews.
by lillymunster 10/22/2011 10:33:21 PM

EX-SKF has the "dirt" on the dirt in Chiba ex-skf.blogspot.com
by lillymunster 10/22/2011 10:56:12 PM

@lillymunster for there to be cesium 30cm below the surface shows just how much they are risking the long term health of the people it will be in groundwater , everywhere
by elainekirk 10/22/2011 11:27:26 PM

@elainekirk getting a grasp on how it got there would do lots to help determine how to deal with these hot spots. Someone suggested possibly someone dumping contaminated gutter mud. If it is naturally occurring they need to know that. Would give hints on what those hot spots will do and how to best deal with them.

by lillymunster 10/22/2011 11:33:28 PM

@lillymunster yes it is such a shame they have been fed so much conflicting information there has been no cohesive management of this disaster
by elainekirk 10/23/2011 12:14:24 AM

@elainekirk I think the local governments have realized that people with rad detectors checking around where they frequent is an easier way to find hot spots than trying to intimidate people into ignoring the situation or sending out govt teams to try to cover the entire country.
by lillymunster 10/23/2011 12:29:34 AM

SUNDAY TIMEOUT
Citizens' forum queries nuclear 'experts'
www.japantimes.co.jp
At a round table discussion later in the day, as well as discussing specific issues many participants made the point that science belongs to the people, not just experts — the very point that underpinned the entire event.
by Mid Valley 10/23/2011 12:39:41 AM

Fukushima power plant video shows progress

Tokyo Electric Power Company has released new footage of the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. It reveals the progress made over the 7 months since the March 11th disaster.

The video taken on October 12th by TEPCO workers shows roads that have been cleared of debris and a makeshift levee constructed along the coast.

On the west side of the compound, holding tanks have been set up to store salt water left over from the process of treating highly radioactive wastewater in the reactors. Each tank can hold 100 thousand liters.

However, in areas around the No. 3 and 4 reactors, buildings are still left with collapsed walls and broken windows.

TEPCO explained that there were not many workers seen in the footage because it was taken during lunch break. The operator says that on weekdays 3,000 workers are employed at the facility.

Sunday, October 23, 2011 05:41 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 10/23/2011 12:53:25 AM

Jordan strongly urges Japan to ratify nuke pact by year-end

TOKYO, Oct. 23, Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
by Edano 10/23/2011 12:56:12 AM

this is a strange new video. it says that tepco stated that the explosion heared on march 15, 6:12 did not stem from #2, but from #4. it says tepco analyzed the seismic data and that the leak in #2 torus was not caused by an explosion. (they do not say it was a "water hammer")
by Edano 10/23/2011 1:10:36 AM