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by Liz 10/27/2011 7:06:51 PM
about the xenon mystery: www.focus.de
"Likely to be the entire xenon-133, which is 1-3 in the reactors of the plant during the operation had been accumulated, leaked. The reactor block 4 was unfortunate timing to shut down for maintenance. The figures are however subject to large uncertainties, because the measurements do not agree with the calculated model using computers amounts of xenon-133 in the reactor cores. This would allow models overestimate the emissions, or streamed from additional gas from the block 5, which also went through after the earthquake, an emergency shutdown. Perhaps there was also damaged in one of the blocks, a "re-criticality", which means that after the failure of the cooling reinstated a chain reaction, so that was another xenon-133."
and #4 ?by Edano 10/27/2011 7:07:55 PM- They had a 5.0 earthquake off the eastcoast of Honshu earthquake.usgs.govby Liz 10/27/2011 7:11:36 PM
www.jma.go.jp
@Liz no damage. www.jma.go.jpby Edano via Jma.go.jp 10/27/2011 7:12:39 PM
@Liz LOL! I wonder if anyone ever did a study on the cancer rates from all these radium products?by lillymunster 10/27/2011 7:14:50 PM
by Edano via Nature 10/27/2011 7:18:29 PM
pics from inside #2 re the gas monitoring system- document- www.tepco.co.jp
-pictures www.tepco.co.jpby elainekirk 10/27/2011 7:19:27 PM
back for a bitby dean 10/27/2011 7:21:53 PM
www.wissenschaft-online.de
real scale comparisonby Edano via Wissenschaft-online.de 10/27/2011 7:24:58 PM- @dean Hi Dean,
Question: what do you know about the US mox program? We were discussing earlier trying to determine how/why Savannah rive MOX plant is still going forward? Is it part of some complicated treaty?by lillymunster 10/27/2011 7:25:26 PM - @Edano an updated version of that with the new JP contamination maps would be wonderful.by lillymunster 10/27/2011 7:26:36 PM
- @Edano good dispersal diagramsby elainekirk 10/27/2011 7:26:48 PM
- @lillymunster the article says it is based on "new" data and maps from NISA... it does not specify "new".
www.wissenschaft-online.deby Edano 10/27/2011 7:28:01 PM - @Edano I might be able to take an aerial map of Japan contamination and size it down to the one in that for a rough comparison since they already established comparative scale.by lillymunster 10/27/2011 7:30:05 PM
by Edano via Wissenschaft-online.de 10/27/2011 7:33:52 PM- @lilly,,, you hit it on the head.. complex treatyby dean 10/27/2011 7:34:55 PM
- @dean can the US shift from MOX for fuel to vitrification or some other permanent disposal method without having to rewrite a treaty?by lillymunster 10/27/2011 7:36:13 PM
- @lilly.. good question.. it's all part of nuclear proliferation signed up to by multiple countries with agreements and committments... I say drop the MOXby dean 10/27/2011 7:38:41 PM
- www.dcbureau.org @ lilly .. this article sheds some light on it.by dean 10/27/2011 7:41:03 PM
- @ Edano and all.. appears I will have angioplasty as soon as possible ahead of the knee surgery.. I must depart to go to doc... peace to allby dean 10/27/2011 7:41:35 PM
- @dean yeah, as expected. good luck.by Edano 10/27/2011 7:42:11 PM
- i still think the nuke stress test wasn't necessary.by Edano 10/27/2011 7:43:07 PM
- www.spektrumdirekt.de in germanby Edano 10/27/2011 7:47:18 PM
- we can contact the authors of the xenon study (NILU):
Dr. Andreas Stohl, NILU, E-Mail: ast@nilu.no, Tel. +47 6389 8035 (vor 23.10.2011: +498937418029)
Dr. Gerhard Wotawa, ZAMG, E-Mail: gerhard.wotawa@zamg.ac.at, Tel. +43 664 88 414962
Dr. Petra Seibert, BOKU, E-Mail: petra.seibert@boku.ac.at, Tel. +43 664 3259704
www.wau.boku.ac.atby Edano 10/27/2011 7:52:57 PM - Important fact: Radiation can cause genentic damage by indirect means, not just by direct traversals of cell nuclei by radiant emmissions. Here's an excerpt on this from this paper www.sciencedirect.com
"Nuclear traversals by a-particles in the low-dose
range investigated here are extremely rare. The probability
that one a-particle traverses a nucleus between
0.05 and 10 mGy ranges from 0.00011 to
0.023. However, the dose to a nucleus by the traversal
of an a-particle is about 500 mGy. Because of
this low probability of hits at such low doses, the
observed effects — both the increase of chromosomal
aberrations and the lack of a dose–response in
the range of 0–10 mGy — must be interpreted in
terms of indirect radiation effects: Under oxic conditions,
radiation damage is mainly associated with the
formation of free oxygen radicals which can either
directly interact with DNA or indirectly via lipid
peroxidation. As a consequence of lipid peroxidation,
highly reactive aldehydes such as 4-hydroxy-
nonenalHNE.are formed w38x. These are more
stable than the radicals and are thought to be capable of inducing damage at distant sites. Therefore, damage to DNA has to be expected even at doses at
which the probability of direct hits is extremely low.
The results of Nagasawa and Little cancerres.aacrjournals.org could also be explained by such an indirect radiation effect."by Ian 10/27/2011 8:05:37 PM - By an "a-particle" they mean alpha particle.by Ian 10/27/2011 8:07:31 PM
www.sebastianjabbusch.de
now, this is nice. a nuke danger map for germany. i am safe ! :/
www.deutscheumweltstiftung.de
www.deutscheumweltstiftung.de
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www.deutscheumweltstiftung.deby Edano via Sebastianjabbusch.de 10/27/2011 8:18:43 PM- @Edano if the wind doesnt change?by elainekirk 10/27/2011 8:21:27 PM
- @elainekirk no wind, just 150 km circles :)by Edano 10/27/2011 8:26:36 PM
- @Edano ahby elainekirk 10/27/2011 8:33:52 PM
- @Edano if all of Berlin just holds completely still....by lillymunster 10/27/2011 8:40:18 PM
- @lillymunster we can blow it away from us with our big wind parks. :)by Edano 10/27/2011 8:41:30 PM
- @Edano Everyone go to the city edge and exhale really hard. Sure! That will work! :-)by lillymunster 10/27/2011 8:42:08 PM
- when my wife came to germany she never saw a wind plant before and asked me what we do with all the fans. :)by Edano 10/27/2011 8:43:40 PM
- @Edano did you tell her they keep everyone cool? :-Dby lillymunster 10/27/2011 8:47:35 PM
- @lillymunster i really say such things .... :)by Edano 10/27/2011 8:50:51 PM
- @Edano that is how things like Jackalopes get started. :-)by lillymunster 10/27/2011 8:53:30 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
@lillymunster but they do exist !by Edano via Upload.wikimedia.org 10/27/2011 8:55:25 PM- $65 at any truckstop in South Dakota. :-)by lillymunster 10/27/2011 8:56:15 PM
- back for a bitby dean 10/27/2011 11:08:43 PM
- @dean hi Deanby lillymunster 10/27/2011 11:22:12 PM
- DoCoMo develops low cost home solar system. uk.reuters.com
DoCoMo is a cell phone company in Japan. Cost is $1312 for a 1kw system. Need to look at comparable systems in the US to see if that is a deal or notby lillymunster 10/27/2011 11:36:33 PM - @lillymunster sounds a good priceby elainekirk 10/27/2011 11:37:48 PM
- The day before fukushima www.independent.comby lillymunster 10/27/2011 11:39:05 PM
- @elainekirk Seems comparable to this one www.northerntool.comby lillymunster 10/27/2011 11:43:41 PM
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