Japan Earthquake

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@elaine.. I wonder how much other produce has taken this route.. sell it anyway .. we're all expendable
by dean 10/30/2011 12:52:04 PM

be back
by dean 10/30/2011 12:54:49 PM

@dean sry phone
by elainekirk 10/30/2011 12:55:44 PM

by Majj 10/30/2011 12:59:04 PM

@Majj hi majj!!
by elainekirk 10/30/2011 1:07:40 PM

@elainekirk Hi back in Rio :-)
by Majj 10/30/2011 1:09:24 PM

Click CC for English subtitles
by Majj 10/30/2011 1:09:52 PM

@Majj when will you be back afloat?
by elainekirk 10/30/2011 1:23:11 PM

Morning! (afternoon-evening) I see TEPCO is telling fairy tales again. :-)
by lillymunster 10/30/2011 1:25:11 PM

@elainekirk No Idea..... I was going in December but can not live my old mother alone any more...... :-(((( I'm stack in Rio. But my leg is near new :-))
by Majj 10/30/2011 1:36:05 PM

@Majj you will get there :)
by elainekirk 10/30/2011 1:53:52 PM

@lillymunster flippy flappy pink beings overhead
by elainekirk 10/30/2011 1:54:28 PM

@elainekirk Indeed. I wonder if they have a contest in TEPCO's PR office to see how far they can push their lying before the media calls them out for it.
by lillymunster 10/30/2011 1:55:55 PM

Is the crane Dean mentioned earlier the one that fell over? I saw something in passing about one of the cranes cracked and fell?
by lillymunster 10/30/2011 1:57:44 PM

back for a bit..
by dean 10/30/2011 1:58:42 PM

@ lilly good morning.. I ran into that crane article on the tepco news...
by dean 10/30/2011 1:59:01 PM

there must be a calling to book but I dont think it will happen for a few years
by elainekirk 10/30/2011 2:08:45 PM

@Dean do you have the link for the worker injury report to go with the crane accident?
by lillymunster 10/30/2011 2:12:12 PM

they just don't stop
Japan, India to accelerate joint rare earth development
www.google.com
by elainekirk 10/30/2011 2:13:05 PM

@lilly .. it's below but I will find it.. be back .. time for breakfast
by dean 10/30/2011 2:14:14 PM

The damage situation of and measures taken for the Great East Japan Earthquake
updated 28th oct www.mhlw.go.jp
by elainekirk 10/30/2011 2:16:28 PM

Regarding the concentration of hydrogen in the exhaust gas of the gas
control system for the Primary Containment Vessel of Unit 2, we found
that the concentration of hydrogen which was approx. 1 vol% at the
commencement of full-scale operation increased to approx. 2.3 vol% as of
5:00 pm on October 29. Therefore, at 6:10 pm on October 29, we adjusted
nitrogen gas injection rate from approx. 14 m3/h to 16.5 m3/h in order
not to exceed the inflammable limit concentration (4 vol%).
www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 10/30/2011 2:20:05 PM

@elainekirk Soooo, does the partially cooled corium continue to create hydrogen or is something else going on?
by lillymunster 10/30/2011 2:26:03 PM

@lillymunster I dunno I was wondering if runaway corium was causing the control room rad
by elainekirk 10/30/2011 2:33:43 PM

@all - now that my life is getting a bit more sane I am working on a better system for grabbing links, data, diagrams, illustrations etc off scribble to get them catalogs on our website library for better reference and documentation.

I want to keep myself better organized so things don't fall through the cracks, but hoping it will also help us get a better reference library put together. I also noticed I have enough floor plans and design drawings to almost complete a full visual construction of one of the reactors, just not quite sure the best way to create it into some sort of online visual that can be interactive for people to use.
by lillymunster 10/30/2011 2:38:10 PM

@lillymunster sounds a great idea but outside my scope , gotta go retail buying back soon
by elainekirk 10/30/2011 2:41:44 PM

@good morning everybody. Here is my synopsis to yesterdays condensate storage tank quest:
The condensate storage tanks consist of the four large white tanks in front of the turbine buildings on the oceanside. Their storage capacity ranges from 1,900 m<sup>3</sup> at Unit 1 to 2,500 m<sup>3</sup> at the other three units. The tanks were about two-thirds filled on March 11. The volume could have fed the RCIC pumps for roughly 19 hours. Once the water in the condensate storage tanks of Units 2 and 3 was running low, the operators had to switch the suction isolation valves to set the suction path to the suppression pool in the wet well of the primary containment as alternate source for the RCIC and HPCI systems. The switch appears to have accelerated the reactors' demise. The suction isolation valves may have failed. cryptome.org
by Peter via Cryptome.org edited by lillymunster 10/30/2011 3:02:41 PM

@Peter, trying to figure out what to do with all we found on the condensate tanks. Your synopsis is a huge help. I am still a bit puzzled why they located them where they did, they seem at risk out in the open. Are you thinking all 4 stayed functional but just ran out of water?
by lillymunster 10/30/2011 3:10:02 PM

Scientist say another 9.0 megaquake may hit at year's end="Fukushima is still on the edge" October 30. 2011 enenews.com
by MaryW 10/30/2011 3:32:01 PM

@MaryW oh thanks for finding that. Elaine found a chart related to it with no other info.
by lillymunster 10/30/2011 3:33:16 PM

Damage spent fuel pool No.4 just had 204 "new" fuel rods inserted before quake. October 30. 2011 enenews.com
by MaryW 10/30/2011 3:33:52 PM

@MaryW the 9.0 quake link didn't work
by lillymunster 10/30/2011 3:34:09 PM

@lillymunster , I do not know. My Failure by Design post brainmindinst.blogspot.com describes the vulnerability of the valves that switch the suction source. Elaine posted a brief tepco entry yesterday that they switched (Unit 2 or 3, not sure) from the tank to the torus on Saturday afternoon which is consistent with my water reserve projection for the tanks, that is approximately less than a day. Tepco believes that the failure of cooling Unit 3 was somehow related to the HPCI system. So the problem may not stem from the tanks per se, but from the fickle ways the water is fed to the emergency core cooling system.
by Peter 10/30/2011 3:38:19 PM

Yellow powder recorded during Video of Reactor No. 4 Oct 30. 2011 enenews.com *All 3 articles listed on same site*
by Mary W 10/30/2011 3:38:40 PM

@Mary W I'm not seeing the 9.0 article anywhere on their site
by lillymunster 10/30/2011 3:39:57 PM

@Peter I will try to compile all of this and send it back here for review.
by lillymunster 10/30/2011 3:40:47 PM

As to the quake vulnerability, the ongoing accumulation of hydrogen shows that the situation is far distant from "cold shutdown" (a misguided term for the situation). Any major quake can precipitate another major release.
by Peter 10/30/2011 3:40:49 PM

@Peter but does it show criticality or is the corium going to continue to produce hydrogen as part of decay heat etc. IE: is it still burning to a point it can produce hydrogen? Sorta defies cold shutdown
by lillymunster 10/30/2011 3:54:54 PM

@lillymunster sorry but I only know how to manually type in the link and the link to the '9.0 article' is 3 lines long:( but yesterday I did find a better article to the prediction of another magaquake this year, I will attempt to locate that one and post it.
by MaryW 10/30/2011 3:55:46 PM

@MaryW thanks, I will keep messing with Enews site to see if I can dig it up
by lillymunster 10/30/2011 3:56:34 PM

by Ian 10/30/2011 4:02:01 PM

10,000 people rallied in protest in Fukushima demanding compensation and decontamination. Two groups of lawyers are also now assisting victims to extract proper compensation out of TEPCO news.smh.com.au
by lillymunster 10/30/2011 4:02:48 PM

@lillymunster, good news. I hope we'll see video. This protest wasn't in Tokyo but Fukushima. It flies in the face of an impression sometimes given of most Fukushimans being acquiescent and those who complain being shunned.
by Ian 10/30/2011 4:08:21 PM

@Ian 10,000 people in a region that is evacuated or still damaged from the quake and is a semi-rural area is huge.
by lillymunster 10/30/2011 4:10:09 PM