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@M.I.A. those dinky houses tickle meby elainekirk 10/29/2011 6:47:37 PM
by Edano 10/29/2011 6:51:27 PM
edano, amazing, you identified them! So they are still there. It is the big white tanks on the waterfront side of the turbine buildings in this picture. cryptome.org
by Peter via Cryptome.org 10/29/2011 6:52:54 PM- Both these are monitoring/surveilance tasks in the handover journals so was there already a problem with them?
@Peter !! 11/03/2011 units 3-4
shift 1 condensate return tank LCV 52-20 gland leaking wiping implementation
shift 2 condensate storage tank LCV-52-20 ground bleeding - wiped
www.tepco.co.jpby elainekirk 10/29/2011 6:55:39 PM 
I found a closer view of them. cryptome.org
by Peter via Cryptome.org 10/29/2011 7:01:09 PM
So they put storage tanks that are part of reactor safety out on the docks...... those tanks were toast, the small ones between the reactor building and turbine fared slightly better.by lillymunster 10/29/2011 7:12:23 PM
Tepco is playing three card monte (whack-a-mole) with the water transfers; turbine basement to condensate tanks to centralized radiation waste disposal buildings and apparently BACK to turbine building. So, for completeness, I offer this pic/diagram of CRWDF. files.abovetopsecret.com
by M.I.A. via Files.abovetopsecret 10/29/2011 7:15:04 PM- @elainekirk, good find. These logs say that the tanks for units 3 and 4 were not exactly full:
CST level 66.1 % (for 3) and (for 4) 76.4 and 77.2% on Mar. 11.by Peter 10/29/2011 7:15:34 PM - @Peter so maybe they had leakage before the event?by elainekirk 10/29/2011 7:17:43 PM
- @lillymunster , ... as I pointed out, the tanks (look sturdy though) sit on soil, the reactor buildings on rock. They were shook at different frequencies for sure.by Peter 10/29/2011 7:18:41 PM
- @elainekirk , yes, we should check for 1 and 2 as well.by Peter 10/29/2011 7:19:14 PM
- I found them www.tepco.co.jp :
CST Level 75.2 % (Unit 1) and 67 % (Unit 2). So, the tanks were not filled to the top on Mar. 11.by Peter 10/29/2011 7:24:22 PM - @Peter I can probably find some visuals of the tanks post disaster. Let me go dig.by lillymunster 10/29/2011 7:27:23 PM
- @Peter what does that mean?by elainekirk 10/29/2011 7:31:38 PM
- Since the evening of March 24, TEPCO has been pumping out contaminated water from the turbine building of Reactor No. 1 and removing it to a condenser in the building. In the case of Reactors No. 2 and 3, the condensers are full and operations are not going smoothly. TEPCO has started “Operation Billiard,” in which water in the condensate storage tanks to which contaminated water in the condensers is sent will be moved to other tanks called “surge tanks”; then the condensate storage tanks will be empty to accept the condenser’s water, and contaminated water in the building can be moved to the condenser. www.at.emb-japan.go.jpby elainekirk 10/29/2011 7:36:11 PM
- @elainekirk , I do not know how much water they are supposed to keep in these tanks. But it means that they had less water available for cooling the cores and the SFPs than they would have had, if the tanks had been full.by Peter 10/29/2011 7:37:32 PM
Unit 3 condensate tank
by lillymunster 10/29/2011 7:39:05 PM
Tank between Turbine2 & Turbine 3 - not sure what it is
by lillymunster 10/29/2011 7:41:00 PM- Looking at the big cryptome image posted I think this is 3's tank (between the turbine buildings) and the one I posted as #3's is actually #4's.by lillymunster 10/29/2011 7:43:00 PM
Tepco knew that the rattling at different speeds during a quake poses a problem. The schema is from this presentation here: www.jnes.go.jp i1214.photobucket.com
by Peter via I1214.photobucket 10/29/2011 7:44:09 PM- @elainekirk Yeah...whack-a-mole with water. In unit 2, they've actually put it back IN the turbine bldg. See 4th page down, left side, at 10:00am, Sep.6 and 7. www.tepco.co.jpby M.I.A. 10/29/2011 7:44:25 PM
- this is I assume a fuku doc www.nisa.meti.go.jpby elainekirk 10/29/2011 7:45:44 PM
- it doesn't look as though the gov inspectors check if npp's are maintaining these tanks www2.jnes.go.jp
and www.atomdb.jnes.go.jpby elainekirk 10/29/2011 7:46:54 PM - These tanks look to be in pretty good shape. Pics of 4-2 incoming.by lillymunster 10/29/2011 7:54:36 PM
Unit 4 condensate tanks
by lillymunster 10/29/2011 7:54:59 PM
Unit 3 condensate tank
by lillymunster 10/29/2011 7:55:19 PM
Unit 2 condensate tank
by lillymunster 10/29/2011 7:55:59 PM
unit 1 condensate tank
by lillymunster 10/29/2011 7:57:45 PM- @lillymunster good pics there does look to be some broken pipingby elainekirk 10/29/2011 7:57:52 PM
- what pic are you seeing piping in, I might be able to grab a better view. They look like the tanks themselves are not majorly damaged.by lillymunster 10/29/2011 8:00:54 PM
unit 2 looks like it lost a pipe and there are signs of spillageby elainekirk 10/29/2011 8:02:43 PM- unit 3 looks to have a tilted baseby elainekirk 10/29/2011 8:04:12 PM
- Unit 2, it is hard to tell if that is a pipe or another metal staircase. There is a puddle in front of it. I also noticed the road in front of the tanks is massively wavy. You can see it in the marked lines that were painted on it. Pic coming upby lillymunster 10/29/2011 8:07:35 PM
wavy pavement in front of tank
by lillymunster 10/29/2011 8:08:32 PM
U2 tank base - looks to have uneven pavement under it
by lillymunster 10/29/2011 8:09:33 PM
www3.nhk.or.jp
Govt compiles plan for contaminated soil and waste
The Japanese environment ministry has come up with a plan to deal with the radioactive soil and waste generated by the disabled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
The waste will be temporarily stored in Fukushima Prefecture for about 3 years before being transferred to final disposal places outside the prefecture over the next 30 years.
The plan says the central and local governments will choose sites for temporary storage while seeking the understanding of local residents.
The ministry hopes to begin construction of the storage sites some time in fiscal 2014 and start transferring the soil and waste in fiscal 2015.
The ministry estimates that about 3,100 cubic meters of soil and waste will be stored in the temporary sites.
It plans to burn dead leaves to lower the volume of the waste that needs to be stored.
Sunday, October 30, 2011 01:19 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano via Www3.nhk.or.jp 10/29/2011 8:11:23 PM- Japan, India to work for nuclear energy deal
Japan and India have agreed to proceed with negotiations to conclude an atomic energy agreement. Talks on the matter have been stalled since the March nuclear accident in Fukushima.
Japanese Foreign Minister Koichiro Gemba met with visiting Indian Foreign Minister S. M. Krishna in Tokyo on Saturday.
At a joint news conference after the talks, Gemba said the two countries agreed to strengthen working-level discussions to conclude the agreement at the request of India.
Gemba said he told India that Japan will provide full information about investigations into the nuclear accident and the government's efforts to ensure nuclear safety.
He added he also asked India to understand Japan's position on nuclear disarmament and non-nuclear proliferation.
If concluded, the bilateral nuclear agreement would allow Japan to provide nuclear-related technology to India, which is planning to build more nuclear plants.
The two ministers also said their countries will expand trade and investment, and promote a joint development project of rare earth metals, following a bilateral economic partnership agreement that came into force in August.
The two countries will also increase the number of regular mutual visits by their leaders and cabinet ministers.
Sunday, October 30, 2011 01:18 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano 10/29/2011 8:14:02 PM 
U3 tank base - looks like low spot, water collecting, soil under tank sunk
by lillymunster 10/29/2011 8:15:35 PM- jnes did seismic assesment tests on condensate tnks (in general) in November 2010 www.jnes.go.jpby elainekirk 10/29/2011 8:15:39 PM
- @lilly looks like there has been some infil happening? maybe to prevent further sinkage?by elainekirk 10/29/2011 8:16:52 PM
- @Edano that is lovely for the residents maybe they could use school playgrounds?by elainekirk 10/29/2011 8:18:23 PM
Press briefing at the Prime Minister’s Office for members of the foreign press
8 April 2011
Regarding stagnant water, we are transferring the water in the hot well to the condensate
storage tank. We found the level of the surface of the water in the condensate storage
tank has not been changed for two days. So we will add or change to one more pump.
Regarding Unit 2, especially stagnant water, we are transferring the water in the hot
well to the condensate storage tank. We will finish it by 8 or 9 April to prepare for the
pumping up of stagnant water to the hot well. Regarding the highly irradiated water,
which came from the crack on the outside wall of the pit, it was stopped, as I reported
yesterday. We injected water glass and chemicals to strengthen the function of stopping
the water. In the meantime, the surface of the water in the trench attached to Unit 2 went
up by 2cm from last night to early morning, today. So, we have to be careful in
watching this trend
Regarding Unit 3, the parameters of the reactor of Unit 3 are relatively stable. We will
throw 70t of pure water to the spent fuel pool of Unit 3 this evening. Regarding stagnant
water, we would like to transfer the water in the hot well to the condensate storage tank,
but there may be some inflow to the hot well, and we are investigating the source of this
inflow.
www.kantei.go.jpby elainekirk 10/29/2011 8:20:16 PM
Press briefing at the Prime Minister’s Office for members of the foreign press
31 March 2011 www.kantei.go.jp
Regarding Unit 1, with respect to the reactor, parameters of the reactor of Unit 1 are
relatively stable right now. Regarding the spent fuel pool, we are injecting pure water
into the spent fuel pool of Unit 1. With respect to stagnant water, a part of the water in
the turbine building was already pumped out into the hot well. Since the hot well
became full, we plan to move the water in the hot well to the condensate storage tank.
Before that, we will move the water in the condensate storage tank to the suppression
pool surge tank. Water in the trench - a part of this water in the trench attached to Unit 1
was moved to the radioactive waste building to lower the surface by 1m.by elainekirk 10/29/2011 8:54:49 PM- @Elaine, that PDF you posted. Why unit 1 has 100 new fuel assemblies is out of the norm of the others.by lillymunster 10/29/2011 9:12:54 PM
- @lillymunster yes it was strange I will go recue itby elainekirk 10/29/2011 9:16:36 PM
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