Japan Earthquake

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@lillymunster On what date did these scientists drill holes, and you're talking Chernobyl, right?
by MaryW 11/16/2011 4:16:18 AM

We have to remember, too, fission has been on again, off again at Fuka
by MaryW 11/16/2011 4:17:22 AM

Most of the information about the damaged core was gathered by "stalkers" who actually probe the insides of the sarcophagus for clues. Former ISTC director, Vladimir Tokarevsky said, "their work was very dangerous, and practically illegal because of the fantastically high doses they received." Soon after the accident, these stalkers had determined that the reactor fuel existed in three states:

ejected fragments from the core (pieces of fuel rods, control rods...)
uranium- and plutonium-laced dust ("hot particles")
solidified lava (a mixture of uranium oxide, graphite from the core, and melted concrete and zirconium from the reactor building)
library.thinkquest.org
by M.I.A. 11/16/2011 4:19:32 AM

@MaryW it was in that thinkquest link you posted. Article is dated 1996 but can't get the whole article darn paywalls www.sciencemag.org
by lillymunster 11/16/2011 4:20:13 AM

On the Alert Map, The nuclear event's location in the Czech Republic is between the cities of Mancice, to its west, and Onomysl, to its east. I searched for any info on any type of nuclear facility between these to cities and had no luck.
by MaryW 11/16/2011 4:21:39 AM

I remembered reading about a new leak from Feb of this year. www.independent.co.uk
by lillymunster 11/16/2011 4:22:53 AM

I know some links are nothing but frustrating, and time consuming!
by MaryW 11/16/2011 4:22:56 AM

Interesting. They are running some sort of crude air handling with fiilters at Chernobyl to pull some of the contaminated air out of the sarcophagus. It had an accident in 1996 where the filter system dumped contamination into rector 3 at Chernobyl. archive.greenpeace.org
by lillymunster 11/16/2011 4:26:39 AM

We will never know what else was going on at other nuclear facilities and plants during the time after Fukushima. It was a time period when tests and releases could of been performed and it gets rolled into the Fukushima disaster. And I think I read this could be happening during that time
by MaryW 11/16/2011 4:26:49 AM

I need to go sleep my brain is fried. Will finish working the Ukraine spreadsheet in the morning. Will post as soon as it is done.
by lillymunster 11/16/2011 4:29:18 AM

Sorry if this has been posted before: www.asrltd.com
by Ian 11/16/2011 4:55:21 AM

It's a simulation of the Pacific Ocean plume...
by Ian 11/16/2011 4:56:22 AM

@M.I.A., thanks M.I.A.! Workin away on my next video. :)
by Ian 11/16/2011 5:00:46 AM

@Ian I look forward to it. I'm a subscriber :-)
by M.I.A. 11/16/2011 5:36:42 AM

@M.I.A. I wonder if I should loosen up and do casual videos more frequently, or spend almost forever making a few more formal and hopefully flawless videos. Or maybe do both.
by Ian 11/16/2011 7:10:22 AM

Another new FukuFallout study: arxiv.org A prior fallout study by other authors was also conducted on the campus of Fukushima Medical University : www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
by Ian 11/16/2011 7:21:02 AM

morning
by elainekirk 11/16/2011 10:19:42 AM

@elainekirk Hello =)
by Pedro Jesus 11/16/2011 10:39:38 AM

@Pedro Jesus hi just waking up coffee being drunk
by elainekirk 11/16/2011 10:42:31 AM

radiation measurements and floor plan unit 3 www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 11/16/2011 10:44:09 AM

tepco have published another photo set on the water treatment with literature www.tepco.co.jp I wonder if these regular outpourings are what they consider to be 'keeping the public informed' forget the reactors look at our lovely water tanks
by elainekirk 11/16/2011 10:59:08 AM

Good morning@elainekirk. EDF Energy stops UK Sizewell B2 nuclear reactor
Nov 16 (Reuters) - EDF Energy stopped its 630-megawatt (MW) Sizewell B2 nuclear reactor on Wednesday, a spokeswoman said without specifying a reason for the shutdown.
"Turbine 2 at Sizewell B power station was taken offline on 16 November," she said, adding that more information would be published when it becomes available.
The outage follows an unplanned shutdown of the nuclear operator's Torness 2 nuclear reactor on Monday, which was stopped manually after a fault with a refuelling machine.
www.reuters.com
by Liz 11/16/2011 11:00:23 AM

Nuclear plant, NH, Mass. to conduct siren test
November 16, 2011 SEABROOK, N.H.—The Seabrook Station nuclear power plant and the states of New Hampshire and Massachusetts will be conducting a test of 121 public alert sirens within a 10-mile area around the plant.The demonstration scheduled for Wednesday is intended to increase public awareness of what the sirens sound like and what to do in a real emergency. The sirens will be sounded at 12:30 p.m. with a steady tone for three to five minutes. No public action is needed.
www.boston.com
by Liz 11/16/2011 11:04:34 AM

@Liz ouch!
by elainekirk 11/16/2011 11:10:42 AM

@Liz I just did a trawl of the bbc news and unsuprisingly enough they have no mention
by elainekirk 11/16/2011 11:11:23 AM

@Liz just tweeted it ty
by elainekirk 11/16/2011 11:14:35 AM

Big protest, onsite insights!
by Ian 11/16/2011 12:05:05 PM

Nuclear Event in MultiCountries on Friday, 11 November, 2011 at 15:22 (03:22 PM) UTC.

Updated: Wednesday, 16 November, 2011 at 09:56 UTC
Description
A cloud of radioactive gas has been detected over France and large parts of Europe but .... The gas - iodine-131 - was first officially revealed to have been detected in the Czech Republic last week and also in Sweden, Slovakia, Hungary and Austria. It is thought to have been spreading for about two weeks. However, the IAEA said the atmospheric pollution was not caused by the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident in March in Japan. Iodine-131 is a short-lived radioactive isotope that has a half-life of about eight days and - with the prevailing winds across Japan carrying any airborne pollution across the Pacific towards the US - it would have all but vanished by the time it reached Europe. However, much of the radiation released by Fukushima was Iodine-131 and it is linked to increased thyroid problems. .... IRSN environmental director Didier Champion said there were several possible sources: from combustion in a nuclear power plant or a research station or from a medical source that used radioactive products. He suggested that because no other isotopes were being discovered then a medical laboratory was most likely as a power plant accident would release many other isotopes. The IAEA said it hoped to have an update soon. hisz.rsoe.hu
by Edano 11/16/2011 12:07:58 PM

they added sweden ! but forgot poland.
by Edano 11/16/2011 12:09:50 PM

@Edano , I second the Hungarians in their reasoning. Somewhere in Eastern Europe at a reactor that produces radionuclides for nuclear medicine there may be staff with thyroids loaded with iodine-131, :(
by Peter 11/16/2011 12:41:06 PM

@Peter yes, that is the most likely cause. but it must have been gone thru a really high chimney to be blasted all over europe. or an explosion.
by Edano 11/16/2011 12:43:58 PM

however, it should have been reported to iaea.
by Edano 11/16/2011 12:47:32 PM

Morning!

I found a slight pattern in Ukraine last night. Need to finish working the spreadsheet and post it for peer review to see if people concur with the pattern. There seems to be a slight spike west of Chernobyl site on Oct 3-4.
by lillymunster 11/16/2011 12:50:39 PM

Anything east of the site showed nothing or a slight uptick around the 9th or 10th, west on 3rd and 4th. I only have sites from the region of Ukraine around Chernobyl. Some other sites in Ukraine would help. Bo did send me a list of facilities in Ukraine so it could be something west of Chernobyl if the winds allow.
by lillymunster 11/16/2011 12:52:45 PM

The Tea Party has brought their disease to Japan. :-( ajw.asahi.com
by lillymunster 11/16/2011 1:08:17 PM

This is the Ukraine facility map Bo posted www.nti.org
by lillymunster 11/16/2011 1:10:32 PM

Something I noticed while digging on the EU issue. Ukraine is having major challenges dealing with Chernobyl and a country strapped for cash and resources. The only reason the have the online rad network around Chernobyl is due to outside funding and assistance. But the IAEA thinks it is a good idea to let developing countries with even weaker infrastructure nuclear power plants.
by lillymunster 11/16/2011 1:17:12 PM

@lillymunster Predictive wind pattern systems can give unreliable results. For example, according to wind pattern projections, Fukushima radiation should have reached Portugal months ago, yet none of our 13 radiation monitoring stations has detected any of it yet. Don't rely too much on projections. There's a good deal of unpredictability associated.
by Pedro Jesus 11/16/2011 1:22:09 PM

@Pedro Jesus right. Most of the wind we were looking at was historical for the day in question. I have not looked at any for Ukraine specifically yet. It is interesting how much wind patterns are impacted by things and don't move in standard paths. With what is coming out of Chernobyl readings either shows an eastern wind or a facility west of Chernobyl as a potential for the leak.
by lillymunster 11/16/2011 1:30:29 PM

@elainekirk I must not have injected enough coffee- does the unit 3 measurement doc. say anywhere whether the numbers represent mSv or full Sv, or what?
by M.I.A. 11/16/2011 1:30:50 PM

There are a couple of research facilities in Kiev www.nti.org
by lillymunster 11/16/2011 1:35:01 PM

@M.I.A. ah I dont know still trying to grab time to have a second cup myself and the click has failed on my space bar I didnt realise how much I depended on those damned clicks ...
by elainekirk 11/16/2011 2:24:40 PM

@elainekirk no spacebar? That makes it hard to do things.
by lillymunster 11/16/2011 2:29:40 PM

@lillymunster oh it works but I cannot touch type so I have to keep looking at the screen to be sure I have actually put spaces between words, I am getting more confident now and only check before posting
by elainekirk 11/16/2011 2:39:30 PM