
GSDF to usher radiation cleanup work in Fukushima next monthTOKYO, Nov. 18, Kyodo
english.kyodonews.jp by Edano 11/18/2011 12:14:54 PM

@Edano delay - good gracious - common sense trumping greed is a new one
by elainekirk 11/18/2011 12:19:36 PM

@elainekirk i would like to have better information on this. yesterday edano said he will not allow restart of genkai 2 and 3, today sendai willl be delayed .....
by Edano 11/18/2011 12:22:02 PM


@Mona - ha thanks! The best I have found about EU food limits is here
eur-lex.europa.eu tho it is pretty impossible in the sea of EU paperwork to be certain there isn't anything later.
by hudebnik 11/18/2011 12:39:33 PM

Morning! (afternoon-evening)
by lillymunster 11/18/2011 12:48:24 PM

Morning @lilly
by hudebnik 11/18/2011 12:52:19 PM

There are multiple rad monitors around Budapest and the outer areas of the country. I wonder if we could pull a trend. Is there any idea when they might have started leaking? I wonder if Hungary has any mandatory disclosure of problems at nuclear site. I know they have a national oversight agency because one of the news articles quoted someone from there saying they think it is the plant leaking.
by lillymunster 11/18/2011 12:56:30 PM

oops sorry I am nervous wreck campervan due to arrive eeek but I will still be logging in on my phone :)
by elainekirk 11/18/2011 12:58:06 PM

@elaine - are you taking to the woods?
by hudebnik 11/18/2011 12:59:26 PM

@elainekirk They do make satellite dishes that get broadband internet and TV for RV's We could get you a laptop and you could scribble from anywhere. :-)
by lillymunster 11/18/2011 1:00:37 PM

@Andrea C. Someone found a Word doc a few days ago on the facility. It appears to be a paper written by the employee of a company that wanted Izotop to do some work for them after some previous work had an issue for another company. He gives a critique of the facility and staff. I will get it cut into a web page here in a bit.
by lillymunster 11/18/2011 1:07:34 PM

@Andrea C. English.
by lillymunster 11/18/2011 1:16:14 PM

@Peter Didn't work before the accident, during or after...or all of the above?
by lillymunster 11/18/2011 1:16:53 PM

I posted the Word doc - it's here www.unclekage.com/rlpics/Izotop%20report.doc
by hudebnik 11/18/2011 1:18:15 PM

@hudebnik @lillymunster I will be relying on phone but tonight at least we will be on a site with wifi ...that is if van turns up in time
by elainekirk 11/18/2011 1:32:49 PM

Have to run for a bit. Will try to pull long term (years) of rad data for the plant area when I get back.
by lillymunster 11/18/2011 1:33:50 PM

@Andrea C. good night Andrea sleep well and thank you
by elainekirk 11/18/2011 1:53:05 PM

Does anyone remember what part of Budapest the plant is in? I know it is edge of town, just not sure what direction
by lillymunster 11/18/2011 2:19:49 PM

Going through one site for Budapest I am finding blank graphs for 2009 and part of 2010. I don't know if this means it was offline or if there was nothing to read and it is actual proof of leak?
by lillymunster 11/18/2011 2:32:11 PM

Sept 2009 shows the following data but then rest of the month has no readings. So did the graph not write or are these readings too low to show?
2009-07-18 16:50 2009-07-18 17:50 1.40E+02
2009-07-18 22:50 2009-07-18 23:50 1.30E+02
2009-07-19 04:50 2009-07-19 05:50 1.29E+02
2009-07-19 16:50 2009-07-19 17:50 1.28E+02
2009-07-20 04:50 2009-07-20 05:50 1.29E+02
2009-07-20 10:50 2009-07-20 11:50 1.28E+02
I think I answered my own question. Readings for Aug 2011 are in the same general number factor range so it must ignore writing a graph if there is incomplete data. The one site I am looking at is showing consistent between 120-140 nSv/h at Budapest HM IV site
by lillymunster 11/18/2011 2:33:20 PM

Not finding any significant changes at all around Budapest over the last year plus jumping back to 2001,2009,2008 looking for lower readings. Readings seem to be consistent in the level of nSv/h. I am seeing some more frequent spikes in 2010 or more accurately the spikes have more density in them. I checked 4 locations N-S-E-W around the outskirts of Budapest.
by lillymunster 11/18/2011 2:44:31 PM

Going to post a group of graphs from one Budapest site over time. I changed them to polyline graphs, easier to read. What does it mean when the density of the readings is less?
by lillymunster 11/18/2011 2:49:55 PM


2008 jan
by lillymunster 11/18/2011 3:00:26 PM


2009 jan
by lillymunster 11/18/2011 3:00:45 PM


jan 2011
by lillymunster 11/18/2011 3:01:15 PM


2011 nov
by lillymunster 11/18/2011 3:01:36 PM