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  • putting both links up top as a pinned item. Please share these widely with some background on what has been going on. I plan to write up on both of these and the surrounding nonsense as an article tonight. Let me know if there is something you think I need to point out or add to it.
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 6:36:41 PM

  • @lillymunster Thanks, you will make a difference :)
    by MaryW 12/15/2011 6:38:54 PM

  • @ALL There is great concern that this video will be removed/ censored from the internet. It has been recommended that a hard copy be made to preserve it. Translation in English also. It is 3 hours in length and worth every minute of it. 'Farewell To Nuclear Power-A Lecture On Fukushima Daiichi' by Takashi Hirose, September 2011. youtube.com
    by MaryW 12/15/2011 6:51:57 PM

  • @MaryW downloading to my hard drive right now. Let me know if there is anyone I should send copies to when done.
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 6:54:02 PM

  • Video below was loaded onto the internet on Dec 5th. What struck me most in the video was the fact that information we have received since March 11 on Fukushima is unknown to the people of Japan.
    by MaryW 12/15/2011 6:54:30 PM

  • Vacuum cleaner dust from houses around Japan tested by ACRO, lots of scary high house dust of course worse as you get into Fukushima www.acro.eu.org
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 7:15:34 PM

  • on that "unit 4 has been cut we think" Indeed it looks like a clean cut, but could it have been done with nobody noticing that quickly? That's thick concrete pillars and beams and metal, how in the world could the metal have been carefully cut and lifted out, and then the concrete beams cut with what? You'd need demolitions to cut through that concrete. I don't have any idea how they could do that other than have it fall of its own accord. Doesn't the NRC have access to spy planes that could see what is going on? I still think the US Navy should send over P-3 Orions to have a daily look at what is going on there since TEPCO and JapnGov tells us nothing.
    by artnuke 12/15/2011 7:57:12 PM

  • @artnuke jackhammer cranes. TEPCO even had a hand out with pictures of the process. I posted it later in the day yesterday.
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 7:58:01 PM

  • this has links to the TEPCO photos of the work ex-skf.blogspot.com
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 7:58:58 PM

  • TEPCO was #8 on Google Zeitgeist search list of the year. Beat out Steve Jobs www.theverge.com
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 8:00:40 PM

  • @All FWIW, here is the link to the description of Bill Gate's nuke plant design. I think maybe it is the same thing as a fast particle reactor. I don't know too much about either, except that they rarely need refueling and the FPR uses spent fuel. TerraPower's traveling wave reactor (TWR) will offer a path to zero-emission, proliferation-resistant energy that produces significantly smaller amounts of nuclear waste than conventional nuclear reactors. After an initial start-up with a small amount of low-enriched material, this innovative reactor design can run for decades on depleted uranium – currently a waste byproduct of the enrichment process. An established fleet of TWRs could operate without enrichment or reprocessing for millennia. TerraPower has explored the advanced physics of this concept in detail with 21st-century computational tools and is moving forward with the overall plant design.
    www.terrapower.com
    by M.I.A. 12/15/2011 8:06:09 PM

  • by Edano via 2.bp.blogspot 12/15/2011 8:13:45 PM

  • by Edano via 2.bp.blogspot 12/15/2011 8:14:17 PM

  • Alert Map for Dec 15.2011: 1) Nuclear Event. Jerusalem, Israel. 2) Non-categorized Event (radioactive material) Bratislava, Slavakia. 3) Nuclear Event. Canada. Situation Update. hisz.rsoe.hu
    by MaryW 12/15/2011 8:14:19 PM

  • @Edano I read somewhere, the 'tents' TEPCO are constructing over what is left of the reactor buildings' explosions, is to obscure areal views of what is going on at the plant.
    by MaryW 12/15/2011 8:19:47 PM

  • @MaryW well that maybe, but they have to take measures to contain the radioactivity. i would prefer seeing tents on #3 and 4 as well.
    by Edano 12/15/2011 8:21:42 PM

  • @Edano It gives the illusion that the plastic tents will contain the radioactivity in the ground leaks
    by MaryW 12/15/2011 8:23:42 PM

  • @MaryW but i don't see an alternative to the tents.
    by Edano 12/15/2011 8:29:30 PM

  • i still wonder how they want to scrap the plants. this is almost impossible, i would have thought. they have to invent entire new technology for this. if it really works, they can afterwards continue with chernobyl.
    by Edano 12/15/2011 8:36:53 PM

  • ... and the next, coming ruin. we will surely see another catastrophe before fuku is scrapped.
    by Edano 12/15/2011 8:38:27 PM

  • @Edano I think they have illusions it will be like TMI and removing the fuel. I think what they really will find down there won't be quite so tidy. Once they get cameras in the building I expect the decommissioning to be projected past 40 years. Once all the fuel is removed it will be a matter of dismantling I am guessing they will chew them apart from the top down. Keeping parts of 3 and 4 from falling down as they do this will be dangerous.
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 8:46:28 PM

  • @lillymunster i have no idea how to remove 20m³ corium each.
    by Edano 12/15/2011 8:47:59 PM

  • ... eaten deep into concrete.
    by Edano 12/15/2011 8:49:24 PM

  • @Edano neither does TEPCO. It hasn't been done
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 8:50:18 PM

  • they have to cut it in pieces underwater by robots.
    by Edano 12/15/2011 8:52:23 PM

  • and lift it up thru the bottleneck.
    by Edano 12/15/2011 8:54:15 PM

  • fukunukeblog.blogspot.com Put all the Unit 4 roof stories and pictures (cut out and blown up so you can see them) on this blog post. Good job gathering this folks. Gotta give those TEPCO people some credit for getting SOMETHING done.
    by artnuke 12/15/2011 8:55:43 PM

  • Japan May Declare Control of Reactors, Over Serious Doubts www.nytimes.com
    by Peter 12/15/2011 8:58:13 PM

  • The Beyond Nuclear petition to suspend all GE BWR reactors has been fully rejected by the NRC. Their claim is that all parts not already in the Fukushima Task force review are without merit and those included in the task force review are being handled through that process. So they won't suspend any units and will let them run as the task force takes however long. I have the full very long letter if anyone wants it. NRC sent it as email
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 9:17:55 PM

  • Daini evac zone will be ended at end of December ex-skf.blogspot.com
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 9:24:02 PM

  • 3 min trailer for documentary on animal rescues in the zone.

    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 9:50:11 PM

  • Law enforcement officials are investigating reports that Iranian and Venezuelan diplomats in Mexico were involved in planning cyber-attacks against the United States.

    
Potential targets apparently included the FBI, the CIA and the Pentagon, along with civilian and military nuclear facilities.

    www.tgdaily.com
    by M.I.A. 12/15/2011 10:40:54 PM

  • by M.I.A. 12/15/2011 10:41:07 PM

  • NRC APPROVES PRIORITIZATION OF JAPAN LESSONS-LEARNED
    TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS
    The Nuclear Regulatory Commission has approved the agency staff’s prioritization of the Near-Term Task Force recommendations on lessons learned from the Fukushima Dai’ichi nuclear incident and supports action on the Tier 1 and Tier 2 recommendations.
    Tier 1 recommendations are those Task Force recommendations the staff determined could be implemented without unnecessary delay and for which sufficient resources are available. Tier 2 includes recommendations that cannot be initiated in the near term due to factors that include the need for further technical assessment and alignment, dependence on Tier
    1 issues, or availability of critical skill sets. The staff’s prioritization was provided to the Commission in staff paper SECY 11-0137.
    In a Staff Requirements Memorandum (SRM) issued today, the Commission directed the staff to prepare notation vote papers for its consideration when proposing orders to impose new safety requirements on the nation’s nuclear power plants.
    “In approving the prioritization, the Commission has taken an important next step in responding to and implementing the safety recommendations of the Task Force,” said NRC Chairman Gregory B. Jaczko.
    The Commission also directed the staff to determine whether any regulatory action is required on additional issues identified by the staff as relevant to the Fukushima Dai’ichi crisis.
    On one of those issues – filtration of containment vents in reactors – the Commission directed the staff to merge it with the Tier 1 action on hardened vents for Mark I and Mark II reactor containments.
    Under the SRM, the staff is to provide the Commission within nine months its evaluation of the schedule and milestones, resources, and implementation challenges for the Tier 3 recommendations, those that require further staff study or are dependent on completion of an
    associated short-term action. sent by NRC email in the last hour
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 11:09:30 PM

  • Staff requirements document from that letter below www.nrc.gov

    Prioritization document www.nrc.gov
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 11:11:07 PM

  • TIER 1: To be undertaken without undue delay.

    2.1 Seismic and flood hazard reevaluations
    2.3 Seismic and flood walkdowns
    4.1 Station blackout (SBO) regulatory actions
    4.2 Equipment covered under Title 10 of the Code of Federal Regulations (10 CFR)
    50.54(hh)(2)
    5.1 Reliable hardened vents for Mark I and Mark II containments
    7.1 SFP instrumentation
    8 Strengthening and integration of emergency operating procedures, severe
    accident management guidelines (SAMGs), and extensive damage mitigation
    guidelines
    9.3 Emergency preparedness regulatory actions (staffing and communications)
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 11:16:59 PM

  • Tier 2. The second tier consists of those NTTF recommendations which could not be initiated in the near term due to factors that include the need for further technical assessment and alignment, dependence on Tier 1 issues, or availability of critical skill sets. These actions do not require long-term study and can be initiated when sufficient technical information and applicable resources become available.
    The Tier 2 recommendations are the following:

    7 SFP makeup capability (7.2, 7.3, 7.4, and 7.5)

    9.3 Emergency preparedness regulatory actions (the remaining portions of
    Recommendation 9.3, with the exception of Emergency Response Data System (ERDS) capability addressed in Tier 3)
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 11:18:05 PM

  • Tier 3 are item that require more study or are dependent on other actions in tier 2 or 1.

    2.2 Ten-year confirmation of seismic and flooding hazards (dependent on
    Recommendation 2.1)
    3 Potential enhancements to the capability to prevent or mitigate seismicallyinduced fires and floods (long-term evaluation)
    5.2 Reliable hardened vents for other containment designs (long-term evaluation)
    6 Hydrogen control and mitigation inside containment or in other buildings (longterm evaluation)
    9.1/9.2 Emergency preparedness (EP) enhancements for prolonged SBO and multiunit
    events (dependent on availability of critical skill sets)
    9.3 ERDS capability (related to long-term evaluation Recommendation 10)
    10 Additional EP topics for prolonged SBO and multiunit events (long-term
    evaluation)
    11 EP topics for decision-making, radiation monitoring, and public education (longterm evaluation)
    12.1 Reactor Oversight Process modifications to reflect the recommended defense-indepth framework (dependent on Recommendation 1)
    12.2 Staff training on severe accidents and resident inspector training on SAMGs
    (dependent on Recommendation 8)
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 11:20:02 PM

  • Additional recommendations that were not in the initial task force report but staff were concerned about and want more review or action on these:

    Filtration of containment vents
    Instrumentation for seismic monitoring
    Basis of emergency planning zone size
    Prestaging of potassium iodide beyond 10 miles
    Transfer of spent fuel to dry cask storage
    Loss of ultimate heat sink

    They say these are incomplete and more will come as Fukushima is further understood.
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 11:21:35 PM

  • They want to apply the general concepts of these to new reactor approval process. They also mention they need funding for these additional activities. I am sure that will be another Congressional slap fight.
    by lillymunster 12/15/2011 11:24:13 PM

  • Bump-the calm before the storm :)
    by MaryW 12/16/2011 1:01:32 AM

  • Translation of the vacuum cleaner study. Here's the zinger at the end. Don't all panic at once...

    Kanto urine of children
    Cesium was detected from the urine of children for the first time in Tokyo. This is probably due to food.

    Uhh, that's bad isn't it??
    fukunukeblog.blogspot.com
    by artnuke 12/16/2011 1:07:59 AM

  • www.japantoday.com
    Yakuza involved in Fukushima clean-up: reporter
    by lillymunster 12/16/2011 1:14:43 AM

  • i think it is snowing on teppycam ...
    by Edano 12/16/2011 1:22:51 AM

  • TEPCO won't release treated water to sea for now

    The operator of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has decided for the time being not to release decontaminated water into the ocean.

    Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO is decontaminating radioactive water amassed in the basements of the reactor buildings and then recycling it as coolant for the reactors.

    But it is having difficulty dealing with the decontaminated water. Amounts are exceeding the initial estimates and underground water is also flowing into the basements. Currently, the firm is storing the treated water in tanks on the plant's premises.

    TEPCO said on December 8th that it was considering discharging the treated water into the sea after further decontaminating it.
    However, it has postponed its decision after facing a protest from a national association of fisheries cooperatives.

    TEPCO disclosed its position in a 3-year management plan for its nuclear plants presented to the industry ministry's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency on Thursday.

    The firm says it will not release water into the sea until it implements 3 measures: blocking underground water from entering the basements, improving and stably operating decontaminating equipment, and increasing the number of storage tanks.

    TEPCO says it will not release water into the ocean without approval from relevant government offices, including the fisheries ministry.

    A TEPCO senior official says his firm will explain its efforts in detail to relevant organizations after taking the 3 steps. He says TEPCO will also properly brief the national fisheries association and local fishermen on its plan.

    Friday, December 16, 2011 07:41 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 12/16/2011 1:25:58 AM

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