Japan Earthquake

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It looks like in the pic below that all connections are either bolted flages or welded, which is definatly for high pressure.
by Shadow 1/29/2012 3:28:36 PM

must be stainless steel or zinc. steel and iron would corrode too fast.
by Edano 1/29/2012 3:29:29 PM

and of course it would be clever to use one same metal for all, to prevent corrosion.
by Edano 1/29/2012 3:30:49 PM

Pics and PDF's from the TEPCO docs Elaine posted overnight www.tepco.co.jp
by lillymunster 1/29/2012 3:34:33 PM

@Shadow tepco's problem is that they constructed very fast temporary systems and i am sure they did not care too much for longlasting materials. now the temporary systems seem to be final solutions for some decades, but small construction flaws will now leak. and this will get worse from day to day.
by Edano 1/29/2012 3:39:00 PM

could get a sisiphos work to keep this impro stuff going.
by Edano 1/29/2012 3:41:36 PM

Part of the problem may be the contractors. TEPCO will give some unreasonable request and leave the contractors to figure out how to do it. The contractors are running out of qualified employees. This doesn't bode well for quality work. As others mentioned if it is on high rad level equipment it is a slap it together and run job.
by lillymunster 1/29/2012 3:43:08 PM

@Edano True, and no matter what material you use around sea water you will have corrossion. Looking closely at the pics you can see rusty spots even now. And comparing the leaks in plumbing to all rad water allready released into the Pacific, is it that big of a deal?
by Shadow 1/29/2012 3:51:34 PM

Later All, got to get off my fanny and move around for awhile. Take care.
by Shadow 1/29/2012 3:55:19 PM

Some tweets from Happy:
Banwa (^ O ^) if the sub-topic in (∋ _ ∈) It's so full of water leaking out of frozen water pipes and hoses from Kolya tomorrow. The break from the driving compartment will also pump water freezes .... Taking the pressure flange is leaking .... What is proposed but the insulation and heater hose set in the summer when they reject so ... I Mon.

More: surely, this situation continues it until March. Mon was really struggling with frozen pipes and water pipes buried in the yard last year even before 3.11. I'm also hard to remove ice in the pipe or hose .... Exposure but useless without clear measures to be embarrassed when laying together. Β-rays I'm not particularly odd
by lillymunster 1/29/2012 4:33:29 PM

Twitter reports all saying freezing causing the new leaks at the plant
by lillymunster 1/29/2012 4:35:27 PM

Apparently, nobody took the idea of installing electrical pipe heaters seriously. They are quite easy to install even now. You just wrap them around the steel pipes.
by Peter 1/29/2012 4:42:24 PM

@Peter Ryuchi Kino suggested that on twitter. It seems like the logical thing if cold is causing issues. Now I wonder if the plastic bag job was to try to insulate the connections a bit while collecting water? I did see some pipes on the hill had black foam wrapped around them to insulate.
by lillymunster 1/29/2012 4:52:10 PM

Bamboo could be used for phytoremediation www.bambooflyfactory.com
by lillymunster 1/29/2012 5:19:00 PM

Tamura City residents allowed to drive home to pick up a few things and look for pets. mainichi.jp
by lillymunster 1/29/2012 5:56:22 PM

Japan today has a poll up right now. Should other prefectures take the contaminated rubble yes-no www.japantoday.com

It is 50-50 right now.
by lillymunster 1/29/2012 10:55:13 PM

TEPCO to ratchet up efforts to decontaminate water
To prevent a further contamination of the sea as occurred in December, Tokyo Electric Power Co. plans to remove about 1,000 kinds of radioactive materials from water at the crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, sources said on Jan. 28.
ajw.asahi.com
by lillymunster 1/30/2012 12:16:29 AM

Chinese Tourists Return to Japan in Big Numbers online.wsj.com
by Peter 1/30/2012 12:53:41 AM

Fukushima response a model for UK demand reduction (electricity) www.businessgreen.com
by lillymunster 1/30/2012 1:23:21 AM

www.reuters.com
Reuters) - Japan's stricken nuclear power plant has leaked more than 600 liters of water,
by elainekirk 1/30/2012 2:06:32 AM

there appears to be steam or smoke rising in a column on the TEPCO cam - to the right of the pic
by UKVal 1/30/2012 2:48:14 AM

nothing visible on TBS cam - must be out of shot
by UKVal 1/30/2012 2:52:07 AM

It looks to be past the common pool building and a bit to the right.
Very odd. Middle of the day on a Monday and not a crane moving.
by lillymunster 1/30/2012 2:57:03 AM

@lillymunster - cranes are moving over#3 -you can see on TBS cam if you don't mind getting dizzy watching. Saw something being lifted up
by UKVal 1/30/2012 3:01:52 AM

steam dispersing now - can't tell if it's ceased or just dispersed by the wind.
by UKVal 1/30/2012 3:02:59 AM

either the wind is up or they are having a quake - im guessing wind.
by lillymunster 1/30/2012 3:20:44 AM

There is some big grey object suspended over the #4 sfp right now. I can't get a decent screen shot as they have disabled pop open windows.
by lillymunster 1/30/2012 3:23:43 AM

@lillymunster agree it's wind rather than quake. Yes I've been wondering what the grey object was - shame the TBSam is blowing about as otherwise the visibility is good
by UKVal 1/30/2012 3:26:34 AM

sorry about typos. It's very late here - must get to bed.
by UKVal 1/30/2012 3:27:02 AM

Special high pressure hose used to clean between paving stones. Maybe they could have used this rather than making the SDF soldiers crawl around and scrape them by hand? www.yomiuri.co.jp
by lillymunster 1/30/2012 3:29:47 AM

@lillymunster My previous conception of Japan as cutting tech has been wiped away as a by-product of this whole thing.
by M.I.A. 1/30/2012 3:32:39 AM

@M.I.A. The problem is TEPCO is running the show and not interested in technology. They want to do the bare minimum as cheap as possible. I think if the disaster had been taken over by the govt. and handled by a team of experts trying to figure out the best solutions it would be in much better condition
by lillymunster 1/30/2012 3:34:03 AM