That is at the reactors, we have never been given numbers before about levels at the actual reactors . The accident that was mentioned was at the turbines.
by Ralph Unger 3/27/2011 4:23:48 AM
Reuters Reuters Top News FLASH: #Japan plant operator confirms high radiation, evacuates workers from reactor's turbine building
by VeenOui 3/27/2011 4:24:14 AM
@Natalie I HEARD that on NHK too, so it's not just Kyodo News
by Rucco 3/27/2011 4:24:50 AM
@Ralph...How did they measure? I thought they had no electricity for instrumentation. I am sure they cannot have any human being sent there in reactor....These headlines are creating more confusion
by Optim 3/27/2011 4:25:00 AM
@Karen Not sure if this is the right one, this may be the longer version. Both are on osti and both studies were by Steven Hodge. I can't look at it to verify over edge network, too slow. If that's not it, search the osti website, it was bottom plate failures in bwr by Hodge.
by Bev 3/27/2011 4:25:16 AM
If they're talking about outside containment- whew! If they mean higher than a normal amount that occurs in regular reactor core when it's up and running, I think they mean it's hyper-critical. I.E. uncontrolled fission? WE need DEAN
by marie rich 3/27/2011 4:25:22 AM
@Rucco I'm still hoping its a typo. That was passed around.
by Natalie 3/27/2011 4:25:38 AM
I think Kyodo needs to not abbreviate mil., that's what I think.
by Grizzly 3/27/2011 4:25:48 AM
And Mil is probably 1000X not 1,000,000 due to translation errors. I cannot be sure though of course, I am looking at the main plant readings and they have showed a steady decline.
by Ralph Unger 3/27/2011 4:25:59 AM
Here's the weird thing for me - I've been out of the government for 10 years (disaster response/management) and 3 weeks ago I was offered a job without an interview starting April 1st.
by George Gibb 3/27/2011 4:26:11 AM
@Meretisa ok, now that I hear someone else say something, I'll speak up. I literally was nauseated for unexplained reasons on MAR 16 (east coast usa) and again on MAR 19. There is absolutely nothing that can correlate Fukushima to it, but I did see the pics of #3 afterwards on the 16 and my personal opinion was that it had recently actually melted. Then the black smoke I saw on the 19th..... My only conclusion is that either some people are hypersensitive to abrupt radiological changes OR (most likely) there is actually something else emitted that we aren't able to measure because we simply do not know about all of the properties of these metals. Speculation, sure. But it is a little reassuring to hear that I am not the only one to experience similar phenomenons. I'm the biggest skeptic, also, so you can imagine my conundrum...
by Dennis Tucker Jr 3/27/2011 4:26:32 AM
@George Gibb I wish that would happen to me :(
by Grizzly 3/27/2011 4:26:34 AM
@Optim, I agree.
by Ralph Unger 3/27/2011 4:26:40 AM
@Natalie @Ralph Unger: I hope you're right.
by Rucco 3/27/2011 4:26:42 AM
They still won't say exactly what they're finding. Just broad generalizations. Like how bad is it? "Oh, very bad" Well HOW bad? "Oh, very, very bad" , Geez, frustrating BS. I think we should make them tell us, since they have polluted international waters. (and air too, come to think of it.)
by Jim Carver 3/27/2011 4:26:44 AM
@everyone the professional version of google earth is real time, does anyone have that available to view Fukushima?
by Tenzing 3/27/2011 4:26:44 AM
The black smoke was said to be from lubricating oil that caught fire when they tried to restart some systems.
by Ralph Unger 3/27/2011 4:28:01 AM
And here we go AGAIN, every time some bad news "see kyodo news ticker 10 milx" they immediatly release a news article to calm down
@Dennis Tucker Jr I think that some are just sensitive to the psychic rebound of such an event... I don't think it got anywhere else in the world (at that point). I think that perhaps we are not the only ones here who "felt" something. I know many have said they've been "obsessed" with this. Hang in there.
by Meretisa 3/27/2011 4:28:23 AM
@Karen sorry, forgot to include link. Long day. www.osti.gov
by Bev 3/27/2011 4:28:31 AM
Meritisa: I'm using my Facebook page as a storage portal. Already advised my 'friends' so that they understand the postings. I try to live a purpose driven life and do believe that everything happens for a reason. We are here to learn from and about each other. I'm a Christian. An Admiral from the Pacific Fleet made a comment recently, "it's as if God has swept His arm across the landscape of Japan." Gave me chills. Very few people are paying attention to what is going on. Personally, I plan to continue pursuing the effort of learning the truth. Eventually, the truth pervails.
by Karen Warren 3/27/2011 4:28:40 AM
This (if true) 10mil times means that we are in full criticallity.
by Patrick Kelley 3/27/2011 4:29:02 AM
that 1% everyone has been talking about is happening
by Patrick Kelley 3/27/2011 4:29:21 AM
@Ralph Unger I'm aware and again I'm the biggest skeptic. What else happened when they tried to restart systems and why is there now a crapload of supernuke water in those basements?? Too many unanswered questions. But as for being in touch with the Earth.... research Native American Indian.
by Dennis Tucker Jr 3/27/2011 4:30:01 AM
All the workers have evacuated the plant! Banner news at CNN, Reuters, and BBC a few days ago.. And incorrect. I wait for a story before I believe a banner.
by Ralph Unger 3/27/2011 4:30:14 AM
@Karen Warren I know. So many people are just ignoring it. i think that when the full scope finally comes out.. it will change the world.
by Meretisa 3/27/2011 4:30:14 AM
10mil?? Wow. The rods must fully exposed.
by ricky 3/27/2011 4:30:16 AM
Where is Dean?
by Tenzing 3/27/2011 4:30:17 AM
Dean went to bed
by ricky 3/27/2011 4:30:35 AM
Thanks, Bev. Saved and preserved.
by Karen Warren 3/27/2011 4:30:42 AM
He'ssleeping
by Maureen Burke 3/27/2011 4:30:47 AM
It says "mil." ....we're getting worked up, including me, of an abbreviated word that may mean anything. If everything was going to hell there would be more coverage instantly, I think.
by Grizzly 3/27/2011 4:31:15 AM
We knew we were in full criticality when the neutron flux was reported. Most ignored that. Alarm bells went off for anyone familiar with nuclear physics. And it's not my area of expertise by any means. But neutron radiation does not occur without plutonium fission.
by Bev 3/27/2011 4:31:47 AM
Micro of milli sievert? there has been much confusion even about that.
by Ralph Unger 3/27/2011 4:32:10 AM
I mean, usually that means million, I agree...I don't know, just trying to keep a level head.
by Grizzly 3/27/2011 4:32:10 AM
Everytime I have ever gotten an xray I swear I could feel the energy that was emitted. I am sensitive to energy of the esoteric type, and I belive there is a link between the mystical and the scientific.
by Sinthia Domina 3/27/2011 4:32:14 AM
The banner on Kyodo usually runs 3 lines of script. There only running the 10 mil times normal level of radioactivity in water at No. 2 reactor (13:12) now.
by Tenzing 3/27/2011 4:32:17 AM
Kyodo with a WTO article. A "WTF" article makes more sense about now.
by Scilla 3/27/2011 4:32:24 AM
@ Grizzly- and what, exactly, has lead you to have such faith? ; )
by JPH 3/27/2011 4:32:29 AM
I thought R#2 was the most stable looking at it;s condition. It at least has a structure. So now #2 is serious..What about #1,#3 and #4?
by Optim 3/27/2011 4:32:37 AM
@Sinthia: Impossible. That's a physical fact.
by Karen Warren 3/27/2011 4:32:53 AM
Sorry. Just checked and hyper-criticality is a function of how many nuetrons are out there, not how much radioactivity. My badd