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  • "Government to make exclusion area around nuke plant off limits." I guess you'd want to make sure nobody could contradict your data. english.kyodonews.jp
    by Christine 4/10/2011 4:14:21 PM

  • Here's a shot of the TEPCO observatory on the top of hill from the road that circles it:
    mw2.google.com

    by radioguy via Mw2.google 4/10/2011 4:15:27 PM

  • i don't know if the original NRC Assessment has been posted here before, because it has not been widely published, so here it is: www.tagesspiegel.de there are some surprises, e.g. the water injected in #1 is not boronated (!), that there is actually no water at all anymorer inside the vessel of #1, and that the bottom temp cannot be correct because of the salt.
    by Chernoshima 4/10/2011 4:16:29 PM

  • Anyone have skills to enhance Hi-Res images from History/Static page? Interested in debris that fills the trenches (ocean side) of turbine bldg. for Reactor #4. Big orange and while crane makes it easy to identify area I'm interested in, thanks.
    by Tenzing 4/10/2011 4:17:12 PM

  • @Tenzing: this area? i.imgur.com

    by ifz via I.imgur 4/10/2011 4:21:26 PM

  • @Tenzing: oops.. misses your last post
    by ifz 4/10/2011 4:23:37 PM

  • @Tenzing: i.imgur.com

    by ifz via I.imgur 4/10/2011 4:28:21 PM

  • @ifz @ifz Yes that's it! can we identify the debris in the trenches and what is covered by tarps (?) by crane?
    by Tenzing 4/10/2011 4:29:34 PM

  • A reuters report on the present situation that has some useful info www.reuters.com
    by elainekirk 4/10/2011 4:32:26 PM

  • @itz, I saw some of that the other day. Will go back over that again. See more of those panels.
    by Nancy 4/10/2011 4:32:26 PM

  • @Nancy did you ever figure out that hole in the turbine building? I found some images someone else made up on it giving a possible explanation that I'm not sure about..
    by Canadian 4/10/2011 4:38:58 PM

  • @ifz are you here?
    by Tenzing 4/10/2011 4:51:41 PM

  • aerial-2011-3-30-3-20-15.jpg
    by Tenzing 4/10/2011 4:54:16 PM

  • @Canadian I was just looking over those again, and there's the one from the top, where you can see the debris pattern emanating from R3, across the same building with the hole and down the hill. We saw a lot of speculation that it was the refueling crane, which would have come down heavy end first.
    by radioguy 4/10/2011 4:58:27 PM

  • @radioguy thanks, I found this index of images when I was searching for webcam pics, I am not quite sold on the shape of the piece they are identifying ... but it might explain why the gridwork wasn't disturbed by something going "in" .. www.in.odessa.ua
    by Canadian 4/10/2011 5:00:11 PM

  • Starts at IMG 4 I think, markups are a little hard to see
    by Canadian 4/10/2011 5:00:58 PM

  • Every time I see those photos, I'm struck with two almost simultaneous thoughts. 1) They built that containment really strong to take a blast like that. and 2) It's amazing if it was strong enough.
    by radioguy 4/10/2011 5:01:48 PM

  • @Canadian If that gridwork, or pipe or whatever is connected far back from where we see it, it could have been pushed out of the way by the entry and then sprung right back up.
    by radioguy 4/10/2011 5:04:02 PM

  • Hi radioguy: take a look at the last image in the Hi-Res history/static page its of bldg. 4. look at the roof (what remains of it) on the left side of the image, notice how the framing of the roof leans in toward the bldg. and you'll see a HUGE object that looks like it landed on the roof. I think its something from the explosion of bldg. 3, what do you think?
    by Tenzing 4/10/2011 5:06:44 PM

  • @radioguy its the 6th image not the last.
    by Tenzing 4/10/2011 5:18:13 PM

  • @Debra Beckham More on debris flow -- stay for the surprise ending: iprc.soest.hawaii.edu

    by bojack54 via Iprc.soest.hawaii.edu 4/10/2011 5:20:40 PM

  • i53.tinypic.com

    We're hampered by resolution limits here. You can only ask an upscaling algorithm or sharpening filter to make up so much detail. But in working with that image, I had to laugh uncomfortably at this:

    NUCLEAR REACTOR. Can we get one for my neighborhood?

    by radioguy via I53.tinypic 4/10/2011 5:24:10 PM

  • Wind flow to the SSW. Debris pattern to the East.
    by radioguy 4/10/2011 5:26:11 PM

  • by Chernoshima via Allmystery.de 4/10/2011 5:26:44 PM

  • @radioguy Sorry, my mistake its the 6th image This March 24, 2011 aerial photo taken by a small unmanned drone and released by AIR PHOTO SERVICE shows damaged Unit 4 of the crippled Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant in Okumamachi, Fukushima prefecture, northern Japan. (Air Photo Service Co. Ltd., Japan)
    by Tenzing 4/10/2011 5:26:45 PM

  • by Sinthia Domina 4/10/2011 5:38:07 PM

  • Improvisation, frustration mark Japan's nuclear crisis at 4 weeks "Some Japanese experts now say the effort is in danger of failing unless Japan seeks more help from international experts to bring it to an end. Tetsunari Iida, an engineer-turned-industry critic, said the situation is "beyond the reach" of Japan's closely knit nuclear establishment.

    "A real exit strategy has to start with an inspection by the world's top experts on nuclear accidents," Iida told reporters at Japan's national press club last week." www.cnn.com
    by Sinthia Domina 4/10/2011 5:42:21 PM

  • @Tenzing What I see is that big arc of concrete from R3 that hit round side first, smashing in the side of the R4 building, marking it with that concrete smudging on the siding, then rolled away onto its edge as it came to rest. Right? So what is big and heavy and arced and comes from the nearly obliterated R3 space?
    by radioguy 4/10/2011 5:46:36 PM

  • i54.tinypic.com

    Oh, and this isn't helpful at all, but I've been throwing every filter I can at these for definition, and I liked this one.

    by radioguy via I54.tinypic 4/10/2011 5:49:06 PM

  • @radioguy I don't think its concrete. when i use my iphoto to zoom in its obviously metal and covered with concrete dust from the explosion. How do I attach the image from my iphoto to the F#$%^&G comment!!!
    by Tenzing 4/10/2011 5:54:36 PM

  • go to TinyPic and upload it. Copy the layout link and pastew it here.
    by radioguy 4/10/2011 5:55:14 PM

  • @radioguy I agree with you that it hit round side first smashing the side of R4 and whatever it is, its HUGE!
    by Tenzing 4/10/2011 5:56:06 PM

  • Is this a new image it is with a cnn story about the drones i.cdn.turner.com www.cnn.com

    by elainekirk via I.cdn.turner 4/10/2011 5:56:24 PM

  • by Tenzing 4/10/2011 5:59:15 PM

  • by Tenzing via I54.tinypic 4/10/2011 5:59:55 PM

  • Thank You Radioguy :)
    by Tenzing 4/10/2011 6:00:14 PM

  • and yes, it seems it had to be metal and concrete because simple concrete would have pulverized more. Looking at the internals of the reactor from our research, that outer containment wall, which seems to be concrete against steel, springs unconvincingly to mind. But, what if what we see there is internal concussion INSIDE the steel containment from the venting explosion, that hammered the inside of the concrete containment so hard that it stripped and ejected a chunk of it. That would leave no pressure above atmo ever in the drywell.
    by radioguy 4/10/2011 6:00:51 PM

  • Yes, see the hit and roll...
    by radioguy 4/10/2011 6:01:50 PM

  • by Tenzing via I55.tinypic 4/10/2011 6:02:31 PM

  • See how it rolled up? So an ejection line from R3 might tell us which part of R3 it's from.
    by radioguy 4/10/2011 6:03:29 PM

  • @radioguy I think we are looking at some part of the containment vessel
    by Tenzing 4/10/2011 6:03:40 PM

  • Angle of incidence, angel of reflectance, plane reflecting.
    by radioguy 4/10/2011 6:03:59 PM

  • i52.tinypic.com

    Something like this?

    by radioguy via I52.tinypic 4/10/2011 6:11:10 PM

  • Rough but you get the idea. I'm assuming serious structural steel there in the corner which would have deflected.
    by radioguy 4/10/2011 6:12:04 PM

  • Radioguy take another look at this, maybe it will help.

    by Tenzing 4/10/2011 6:12:56 PM

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