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  • @Tenzing congratulations and it is a welcome wish that you have. It is hard to imagine how it must feel to have been hit by an earthquake and a tsunami and on top of that have your life uprooted by this nuclear disaster. Sending a prayer their way.
    by nls 4/12/2011 5:07:46 PM

  • @Mejin @Fradycat It's rather confusing. It seems the initial 5 ratings were agreed a week after the quake/tsunami, when they would surely have already known of the early fuel damage and the correspondingly high radiation levels. Hmm.
    by es 4/12/2011 5:12:11 PM

  • @es Well, I believe deaths are including in the higher ratings, i remember reading. And so far, there is none directly caused from radiation. So, the 5 rating was was a way to "low-ball" it.
    by FradyKat 4/12/2011 5:14:25 PM

  • Kobayashi Asao seems to be an earthquake expert, he predicts a 7+ earthquake with 48 hours in Tohuku or Kanto region.
    by Bobby1 4/12/2011 5:17:14 PM

  • @FradyKat@es Well... it's just a number in a way.... but some people take this article to proof that everything is not that worse. Anyway... actually I don't have a that good overview anymore and can not discuss with people like that who may be better informed. Just wanted to know about this case. Thanks.
    by Mejin 4/12/2011 5:17:29 PM

  • Just a quick reality check on the foibles of human intelligence. The M-65 is a grand example of how often we can't see the forest for the trees.

    by Tenzing 4/12/2011 5:22:33 PM

  • @Bobby1, Well I guess I am an unknown, and we have been following the quake maps for the last several days. The Pacific plate is breaking loose from the U.S. West coast and is moving West towards Japan. There is massive amounts of movement there, and YES I would say that there unfortunately is going to be more large quakes in Japan because that is where the plate is being pushed too.
    by wtm 4/12/2011 5:28:14 PM

  • @Tenzing Anecdotal evidence of an increase in birth defects... The squeaky wheel get the grease. Send in some serious un-affiliated analysts to review the incidence. Oh wait, there are no serious un-affiliated analysts. Where will impartial analysis come from? I have no answer. We will get some left wing "opinion" and some right wing "opinion" and we as impartial seekers of truth will have to decide on some midpoint. I worked closely with CIWIS with depleted uranium and had two great kids, but I was not on the receiving end of Depleted Uranium.
    by RBean 4/12/2011 5:28:29 PM

  • After all of that serious nonstop movement in Japan, the sudden stop is spooky.
    by radioguy 4/12/2011 5:35:22 PM

  • @Bobby1, here is a good interactive quake map to watch. To see what is going on from a wider perspective is scary to say the least. All the dots on the map are ONLY within the last 24 hrs. This has been going on for weeks !!! quakes.globalincidentmap.com
    by wtm 4/12/2011 5:36:48 PM

  • @Eadioguy, had one just north of Portland and one in China now.
    by wtm 4/12/2011 5:37:36 PM

  • @Radioguy, (sorry morning keyboard), lets hope its not loading up for a stress quake in Japan area again ?
    by wtm 4/12/2011 5:39:28 PM

  • @ Bobby 1 - re earthquake prediction -I Think he could be right. I've been following the quakes which have mainly fallen in 1 area - given that Japan sits on several plates, I think it's possible that there will be a big earthquake in that area soon
    by UKVal 4/12/2011 5:41:25 PM

  • www.fastcompany.com Really? We didn't need to radiate the oceans after all?We need an international team in there....TEPCO and GoJ continue to fail miserably.
    by wrshpr 4/12/2011 5:42:48 PM

  • @wtm the yellow dots are older than 24 hours. We didn't see any of those the last couple of days there were so many going on (I think it cuts off at a certian # of quakes). It has defitely slowed down. That said, I don't put a lot of stock yet in earthquake predictors. I haven't heard of one yet with any sort of good track record.
    by jay 4/12/2011 5:43:24 PM

  • I mean the areas he specifies
    by UKVal 4/12/2011 5:43:30 PM

  • i56.tinypic.com

    7 hours since anything. Except that one 3+ in the Kuril islands, on the Kamchatka arc, which butts the Aleutian arc.... and all the velocity up the CA coast is agitating the Alaskan end of the plate. It looks like angular energy is pushing out on the Kamchatka end and torquing Japan right across the middle in Honshu.

    by radioguy via I56.tinypic 4/12/2011 5:43:33 PM

  • @UKVal, you have to also look at the area that the plate is tearing away from, and that is the West coast of the U.S. There have been thousands of small breaks there and now in places that normally don't see quakes at. Plus the quakes farther East in Arkansas show that the North American plate is moving West with the Pacific plate. ALL that is piling up against Japan.
    by wtm 4/12/2011 5:44:19 PM

  • @wtm - I agree, but remember those 2 plates are not the only ones
    by UKVal 4/12/2011 5:46:50 PM

  • @Jay, Maybe can't predict them, but you can look at the bigger picture on that map !!! We have our first medium quake West of Japan, which is hopeful that now the Plate that Japan is on is starting to move West, that would lessen the amount of pressure being put on Honshu area where all the quakes are happening.
    by wtm 4/12/2011 5:48:25 PM

  • by ifz via Sdgs.usd.edu 4/12/2011 5:48:33 PM

  • by radioguy via Wikistupidia 4/12/2011 5:48:46 PM

  • Holy Johnny Cash!
    by Scilla 4/12/2011 5:49:36 PM

  • @wtm - i do not usually comment on here, but I have noticed that Greece gets a little quake prior to Japan getting one, and there was someone from Greece on here earlier that said that they are getting nothing to speak of now! weird.
    by fiona 4/12/2011 5:50:23 PM

  • @wtm Right, I'm just thinking in terms of the 'when'. I agree you can see things happening, but geologic time is so stretched, I just don't yet buy the '48 hours' thing. I'll change my tune if he's right...
    by jay 4/12/2011 5:50:55 PM

  • This is a very dangerous situation. We don't need 2 or more plants spewing out radiation. Are the authorities doing anything to prepare for this?
    by Bobby1 4/12/2011 5:51:23 PM

  • @wtm - I agree, but remember those 2 plates are not the only ones
    by UKVal 4/12/2011 5:51:35 PM

  • @UKVal, RadioGuy, YES if you could overlay that map on the quake map, it would show about the same area the quakes are happening in. If you look on the incident map and on the right select "Hybrid" it will show you sat photos of the bottom of the ocean and you can actually see the ridge of the plate around the Pacific.
    by wtm 4/12/2011 5:51:44 PM

  • Note the join point of the Japan Trench and the Izu Bonin Trench: Honshu.
    by radioguy 4/12/2011 5:51:49 PM

  • I grew up with plate tectonics as the accepted geological theory, just as all of you did. However there is an alternative theory that has strongly caught my attention. People who are open-minded will review the all evidence and may form a conclusion very different from plate tectonics. Here are several links worth your study and unbiased consideration. www.youtube.com - eearthk.com - www.expanding-earth.org - Offers proof the Earth is expanding rapidly by external accretion of cosmic dust /meteorites and internal expansion of the core from new particle creation via capture of cosmic radiation. The rate of expansion is highly variable, as the earth passes through cosmic regions that offer more or less radiation intensity.
    The 3-minute video youtube link will demonstrate visually that all the continents fit together perfectly on a smaller-radius earth and that is a good place to start learning about the new hypothesis.
    by Sky 4/12/2011 5:52:56 PM

  • to be honest I would be worried if I lived in the KaNTO AREA at the moment www.emu.org.uk
    by UKVal 4/12/2011 5:53:05 PM

  • @wtm I feel that if San Onofre or Diablo Canyon in California were damaged, the effort would be even more inept than Tepco's.
    by Bobby1 4/12/2011 5:53:29 PM

  • Anybody know the max temp reached (to date) at Fukushima
    by elainekirk 4/12/2011 5:53:41 PM

  • One item that I was trying to put together is the Tide times i\both in Japan and on the Est coast. I believe that the tides have some hand in helping put pressure on the plates as the waters become deeper and heavier against them. Trying to see if there are more quakes in the area when it gets high tide and less when it is low tide.
    by wtm 4/12/2011 5:54:37 PM

  • please also note there are several known stressl ines running north south along the east/ south coast of Honshu
    by UKVal 4/12/2011 5:55:17 PM

  • by radioguy via I52.tinypic 4/12/2011 5:56:27 PM

  • @UKVal : kanto region is Tokyo ?
    by edano 4/12/2011 5:57:54 PM

  • @Sky, what happens if you soak a ball in water and then spin it ?? The water will spin off of the ball as it spins, so is the earth spinning and the earth is moving outward as it gets flung off the ball.
    by wtm 4/12/2011 5:58:49 PM

  • @UKVal yes indeed
    by radioguy 4/12/2011 5:59:23 PM

  • @edano -it's to the west of Tokyo south of Iwaki. I've counted 26 earthquakes west of Iwaki in the3 last 48 hours before the recent calm
    by UKVal 4/12/2011 5:59:43 PM

  • The Niigata-Kobe Tectonic Zone: cais.gsi.go.jp
    by es 4/12/2011 5:59:49 PM

  • @Radioguy, that map really starts to put things into perspective doesn't it ?
    by wtm 4/12/2011 6:00:09 PM

  • thanks es I was looking for that link
    by UKVal 4/12/2011 6:00:38 PM

  • "GEONET clarified the contemporary deformation of the Japanese Islands. One of the most interesting features is the high-strain rate band crossing central Japan from Niigata to Kobe.
    by radioguy 4/12/2011 6:00:54 PM

  • @radio guy -yes & more so after the last 48 hours
    by UKVal 4/12/2011 6:01:26 PM

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