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  • I am thinking that the plutonium would be too heavy to travel far, no? And so the biggest danger would be from radioactive debris leaking into the ocean?
    by wrshpr 4/12/2011 11:38:58 PM

  • www.marketoracle.co.uk have to check the source
    by dean 4/12/2011 11:42:48 PM

  • @James Ward. The Russians detected Strontium 90 in Moscow in March and they claim it is from Fukushima. "Only trace amounts" near Fukushima, but it could be found on the other side of the globe.
    by Horace 4/12/2011 11:43:58 PM

  • have you seen this? can't vouch for its credibility! www.rense.com
    by UKVal 4/12/2011 11:50:30 PM

  • @dean You might want to check the other page, looks like they have some info over there about u235
    by one time 4/12/2011 11:52:02 PM

  • @dean ... all I remember seeing (sorry, no link...) is U235/U238 mix

    [Sorry if you got stuck in mod, @asdf... Just checked in now and cleared you. Thanks. - Alblee]
    by asdf edited by alblee 4/12/2011 11:52:08 PM

  • will do one time.. we are discussing it there as well
    by dean 4/12/2011 11:54:47 PM


  • @ukval....rense is not generally considered credible. If we can sole-source things from him, then we have to engage the weather modification folks who think Fukushima is some kind of black op!
    by wrshpr 4/12/2011 11:56:39 PM

  • @wrshpr Actually , i think there is more light coming to this theory.......we're discussing that on other board
    by VeenOui 4/12/2011 11:59:24 PM

  • @wrsphr -as I said i can't vouch for the site - but it does realte to a current debate here & on the other page
    by UKVal 4/13/2011 12:00:21 AM

  • sounds all a bit absurd to me, what for exactly is a light water reactor supposed to be useful for in a weapons program?
    by Sims 4/13/2011 12:00:44 AM

  • I have no problem with the theory....don't get me wrong...I find it ludicrous that japan would be absolutely the only nation to ever undertake a 100% peaceful nuclear program (mebbe this explains why germany took so many of theirs offline so quick?).....all I was saying is that if we accept Rense as a credible source, we are going to have to weigh the opinions of all of the people who don't turn off their phones on planes to prove that those cellphone calls on 9/11 couldn't have been genuine. I'm not saying its flat earth society stuff, I'm just saying
    by wrshpr 4/13/2011 12:02:16 AM

  • Can someone please overlay a map of the south-east highway frpm Fukushima with the radiation map found here : docs.google.com ? It looks as if the radiation pattern is following the highway as @es observed earlier. Thanks.
    by Reed 4/13/2011 12:03:21 AM

  • @dean, I am having a difficult time making sense of the article www.marketoracle.co.uk , it seems to go in a lot of directions. Is it basically saying Fukushima 1 is part of a secret weapons program? If so, it doesn't seem to really lay out any concrete evidence. What do you think?
    by Dan 4/13/2011 12:04:43 AM

  • Japan, being the only country ever struck by a nuclear weapon, would be the least likely to want to develop one in my opinion....
    by borrrden 4/13/2011 12:06:08 AM

  • You might find this of some interest. Written for marine hobbyists, it covers "natural" strontium in aquariums, as well as its toxicity in seawater, and effects on marine life. www.advancedaquarist.com
    by Debra Beckham 4/13/2011 12:06:33 AM

  • well.. I'm not sure how to sort all this out on things.. I like to believe the source is motivated by some agenda.. it was just something to ponder is all ...
    by dean 4/13/2011 12:07:03 AM

  • @ Borrden you forget the concerns about North Korea have been really major in the past few years
    by UKVal 4/13/2011 12:08:22 AM

  • that was a good link Dan.. not sure what to think of it
    by dean 4/13/2011 12:08:50 AM

  • @Reed : i pointed out before that the vehicles on the highway stir up the radioactive dust and that this is a big danger for the people living along the road. they should either close the road or evacuate.
    by edano 4/13/2011 12:10:09 AM

  • @UKVal I'm listening to a radio show with Rense and Shimatsu, it seems plausible. gramercyimages.com
    by Bobby1 4/13/2011 12:10:39 AM

  • @wrshpr - I don't think anyone is regarding that as a credible source. However sometimes way off stuff raises qu's that might be worth exploring. Note I said might
    by UKVal 4/13/2011 12:11:12 AM

  • edano.. also.. I wonder where they are hauling all the debris..
    by dean 4/13/2011 12:11:14 AM

  • That article has so many factual inaccuracies within the first two sections....how can anyone take it seriously? WTF is a "dry cooling pool"?
    by borrrden 4/13/2011 12:11:27 AM

  • borrden.. there have been questions on the earlier in the day..
    by dean 4/13/2011 12:11:59 AM

  • Comparing Chernobyl and Fukushima
    April 2011 Nei Fact sheet resources.nei.org
    by NHK Listener 4/13/2011 12:12:06 AM

  • Shimatsu provides a motive for the delay in action immediately after the tsunami. www.yomiuri.co.jp
    by Bobby1 4/13/2011 12:12:50 AM

  • A covert research program does seem plausible... however the article seemed to exaggerate some of the events in the timeline of this nuclear accident -- which it did not really need to do in order to lay out the suggestions it was trying to make. Therefore the most I can make of it is "watch this space" for further evidence for or against the hypothesized program.
    by Sky 4/13/2011 12:13:05 AM

  • @borrden...Japan is not inherently opposed to a nuclear weapon...the nationalism there rivals only israel's....and the story is plausible, and there are probably some ramifications in here somewhere...though all the sources are on some level somewhat in-credible thus far. We need to see where the fire is among the smoke and see if we can put together anything with teeth
    by wrshpr 4/13/2011 12:13:21 AM

  • @edano I completely agree. Now that we have that radiation map we can put it into a graphic form for all to see . That visual would be shocking. Who here can create something like that ?
    by Reed 4/13/2011 12:14:20 AM

  • by NHK Listener via Pointscope01.jp 4/13/2011 12:14:22 AM

  • @Reed : nancy does that stuff.
    by edano 4/13/2011 12:15:05 AM

  • @edano She's gifted at it, but isn't she busy with the site images right now ?
    by Reed 4/13/2011 12:17:18 AM

  • ??what is diference between #5 + #6??
    by elainekirk 4/13/2011 12:18:33 AM

  • number 3 was the first and is as far as I can tell only reactor at that complex approved for mox
    by Markfm 4/13/2011 12:19:37 AM

  • From @Dan at the other room...

    #5 is a 784 MW Toshiba BWR-4 Reactor
    #6 is a 1,100 MW General Electric BWR-5
    by Dan
    by ALBLEE 4/13/2011 12:19:48 AM

  • @ALBLEE Regarding the Strontium, I don't know if you saw this: www.asahi.com

    @edano Thanks !

    [Thanks, @Reed. I wish the institutional rad minitoring stations would include this isotope on a regular basis. - Alblee]
    by Reed edited by alblee 4/13/2011 12:22:26 AM

  • Who built #4 looking at this toshiba say they did 1,2,3,5,6, which seemed strange www.pbnc2010.org.mx
    by elainekirk 4/13/2011 12:27:07 AM

  • @Reed I posted that article on here yesterday, was everyone able to get the relevant numbers out of it?
    by borrrden 4/13/2011 12:27:53 AM

  • @borrrden Yes. Thank you very much. It's the most specific report so far.
    by Reed 4/13/2011 12:29:35 AM

  • @elainekirk You mean who designed it? Or who actually constructed it?
    by borrrden 4/13/2011 12:32:40 AM

  • @elainekirk Hitachi
    by NHK Listener 4/13/2011 12:32:42 AM

  • en.wikipedia.org ... just a read.. then wait and see
    by dean 4/13/2011 12:32:47 AM

  • They can probably scratch 7 & 8 from their future build plans. At least#1i thought was real ge, Perhaps tosh as in country partner
    by Markfm 4/13/2011 12:33:00 AM

  • @Markfm They already did scratch is according to Wikipedia.
    by borrrden 4/13/2011 12:33:44 AM

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