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  • @Nancy: right, the contaminants in food is a new one to me
    by Jocelyn Mayer 4/14/2011 12:14:05 PM

  • Onagawa nuke plant suffers jolt greater than designed in aftershock

    TOKYO, April 14, Kyodo

    The No. 1 reactor of the Onagawa nuclear power plant in Miyagi Prefecture on April 7 sustained a jolt greater than what it was designed to withstand during a strong aftershock from the powerful March 11 earthquake, according to nuclear safety officials.

    The finding raises further doubts about the viability of the assumed quake resistance at the Tohoku Electric Power Co. complex, even though it had been shut down safely after the deadly quake last month.

    The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency has instructed the regional utility serving northeastern Japan to analyze the impact of such a jolt on key facilities at the three-reactor plant, the officials said.

    During the aftershock, the biggest after March 11, measuring upper 6 in Miyagi on the Japanese seismic scale of 7, a seismometer at the building housing the No. 1 reactor registered a quake acceleration of 476.3 gal vertically, against the 451 gal assumed for the facility.

    The assumed level of the jolt ''shouldn't be exceeded in principle,'' said agency spokesman Hidehiko Nishiyama. ''While I intuitively think that if it is this much, it shouldn't be a cause for concern, but we still have to evaluate its safety.''

    None of the reactors at the plant was operating when the aftershock struck. But as a result of the temblor, the plant lost part of its external power supply and saw a cooling system for pools storing spent nuclear fuel briefly lose power.

    Both the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Fukushima Prefecture and the Onagawa plant were hit by the March 11 quake and tsunami, but the latter has been largely under control with its key cooling functions kept alive.

    ==Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 4/14/2011 12:14:15 PM

  • @Nancy are those unit measurements the type of data you wanted cos I can keep hunting if so
    by elainekirk 4/14/2011 12:14:22 PM

  • @Nancy: sorry for the confusion, I'm using different logins from home & work.
    Jocelyn Mayer at work <=> Jo l_indien at home
    by Jocelyn Mayer 4/14/2011 12:14:51 PM

  • hi dean !
    @all: need to go to lunch, will come back later
    by Jocelyn Mayer 4/14/2011 12:16:23 PM

  • NHK.. I saw some posting about TEPCO said #4 fuel elements mostly intact may I ask what are the sources?
    by dean 4/14/2011 12:17:01 PM

  • hi Jocelym.. enjoy lunch
    by dean 4/14/2011 12:17:26 PM

  • thanks dean !
    by Jocelyn Mayer 4/14/2011 12:18:04 PM

  • Wasn't the EQ afternoon, like 5 pm, not morning?
    by markfm 4/14/2011 12:19:39 PM

  • @dean : english.kyodonews.jp TEPCO confirms damage to part of No. 4 unit's spent nuke fuel
    by Edano 4/14/2011 12:21:30 PM

  • "but most of them are believed to be in sound condition, plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Wednesday." english.kyodonews.jp Of course, you also have the JT story Radiation surges above 4's fuel pool search.japantimes.co.jp
    by markfm 4/14/2011 12:21:38 PM

  • Time to see what the plant readings are like from the 14th
    by markfm 4/14/2011 12:22:40 PM

  • Development of German-style eco-town eyed after nuclear crisis

    TOKYO, April 13, Kyodo

    Prime Minister Naoto Kan is considering developing an environmentally friendly town with a population of about 50,000 to 100,000 in the event residents need to leave their homes near the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant for many years, a person close to the premier said Wednesday.

    Kan is thinking of designing a downtown area ''modeled on a German garden city,'' Kenichi Matsumoto, a renowned writer who serves as a special adviser to the Cabinet, told reporters after a meeting with the premier.

    Matsumoto, also a historian, said he proposed the idea of creating such an eco-town somewhere in an inland area during the meeting, adding that Kan was supportive of his idea.

    Matsumoto also said the candidate area where people affected by the nuclear crisis could be migrated is already in ''the premier's minds.''

    The idea of building an eco-town will most likely be discussed by the Reconstruction Design Council, launched on Monday -- exactly one month after the most powerful earthquake and tsunami in Japan's history.

    The council will hold its first meeting on Thursday. Its members include internationally known architect Tadao Ando.

    ==Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 4/14/2011 12:24:22 PM

  • Hi everyone, from Physics Forum, the best image analysis of the four reactor buildings (that we get to see) yet:

    www.houseoffoust.com
    by mainejen 4/14/2011 12:28:24 PM

  • ty Edano, I'm still waiting for visual with human or robot eyes peering down in the spent fuel pool ..
    by dean 4/14/2011 12:29:35 PM

  • @Jocelyn Mayer Thanks Jo! I have some images when you get back.
    by Nancy 4/14/2011 12:36:24 PM

  • @Angie is this any use

    by elainekirk 4/14/2011 12:40:18 PM

  • @elainekirk I was posting them for everyone's elses benefit mostly. I didn't know if these were new or better sets of data. The main data I have been looking for right now is anything surrounding #3's explosion date and the loss of pressure on the 20th. These PDF files from Georgia might be useful for radiation data that was proposed to be gathered. I have not had a chance to work on that further. Has anyone else been tracking and saving radiation readings and testing? So yes, that food testing is the Japanese version of what I was looking for in the US but there was some comments of people wanting that data in Japan also so this may be a good source. I need to know if anyone else has an existing or better source. I will put these pdf links on the FAQ page and try to check for updates. If they are being used I can keep pulling them. If it ends up as redundant I can stop pulling them.
    by Nancy 4/14/2011 12:41:01 PM

  • @Nancy ok I will see what I can find
    by elainekirk 4/14/2011 12:44:34 PM

  • New heat images. Will get them cut and posted in a few here. www.mod.go.jp
    by Nancy 4/14/2011 12:52:47 PM

  • Someone may want to look at that last link -- it looks like they're estimating total air emissions, they estimate the Cesium, then convert it to an I-131 "equivalent". Given the half-life differences, why would someone do such a conversion?
    by markfm 4/14/2011 12:54:04 PM

  • @Nancy : they are so small this time ... hardly anything to see.
    by Edano 4/14/2011 12:59:28 PM

  • KYODO's NEWS ADVISORY: Groundwater radiation level rose 10-fold in 1 week at nuke plant: TEPCO english.kyodonews.jp
    by estacion 4/14/2011 1:08:41 PM

  • Disassembly of N-reactors a joint effort? / Toshiba seeks cooperation of rival Hitachi www.yomiuri.co.jp "Even if the plan is realized, the work will take at least 10 years."
    by Markfm edited by Markfm 4/14/2011 1:10:29 PM

  • U.S. EPA exempts milk from spill-control rules www.reuters.com
    by Bobby1 4/14/2011 1:14:39 PM

  • Nuclear forum backs safety push after Japan crisis www.reuters.com
    by Markfm 4/14/2011 1:19:55 PM

  • Report: Japan considering moving capital away from Tokyo enenews.com
    by Bobby1 4/14/2011 1:20:38 PM

  • Got this response from Kanako Takahara of Japan Times, clarifying what he wrote about Reactor #4 a couple of days ago: "Dear Mr. James Ward,

    Thank you for your email about my article.

    >It is my understanding that Reactor #4 was empty at the time of the 9.0 >quake and subsequent massive tsunami. Do you have information >indicating that Reactor #4 was actually in operation with a full fuel load, or >is the information you provided in error?

    You are absolutely right about Reactor 4. There is no fuel rods in the reactor.
    What Tepco was trying to say (and was not clear the way I may have written...I apologize for that) was that the high radiation may have been caused by radioactive material leaking from the pressure vessel of other reactors, not No.4.

    Best,

    Kanako Takahara
    ***************************
    The Japan Times
    高原 加奈子
    tel 03-3452-1799
    fax 03-3453-5456
    cell 080-1359-1093"
    by James Ward 4/14/2011 1:30:31 PM

  • @markfm I found some of those reports in English. Elaine ran across them and I dug up the formatted versions. Are you getting a translated one somehow? i noticed the first link is the same as the one in english we found. japan.mfa.gov.ge
    by Nancy edited by elainekirk 4/14/2011 1:31:02 PM

  • @markfm I think these are english versions PDF report via Georgia
    japan.mfa.gov.ge

    PDF report food testing in Japan by area testing was done via Georgia
    japan.mfa.gov.ge

    PDF food testing in Japan via Georgia
    japan.mfa.gov.ge


    japan.mfa.gov.ge%2Findex.php%3Fsec_id
    by Nancy edited by elainekirk 4/14/2011 1:32:21 PM

  • Yes, those are the same things, but it looks like about one day behind.
    by Markfm 4/14/2011 1:36:54 PM

  • @james well that clears it up...sort of
    by elainekirk 4/14/2011 1:39:25 PM

  • @nancy those reports how do we track back with them because the other board could use them in present convo
    by elainekirk 4/14/2011 1:43:15 PM

  • @elainekirk Ha! That was my thinking, too, but I thanked him for his response anyway.
    by James Ward 4/14/2011 1:43:42 PM

  • @james yes make friends build dialogue and trust and should they ever need your input /help..
    :):)
    by elainekirk 4/14/2011 1:45:57 PM

  • 14th apr UK's Health Protection Agency weekly update on radiation levels in UK www.hpa.org.uk
    by UKVal 4/14/2011 1:55:36 PM

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  • @elainekirk track back? as in previous dates or finding the page online?
    by Nancy 4/14/2011 2:02:17 PM

  • @Markfm are you getting a translation of those documents or are these translations from Georgia useful?
    by Nancy 4/14/2011 2:03:10 PM

  • @UKVal - thank you for that. Can you point me to an easy-to-understand site that indicates safe levels? I feel like I don't know where to start, and am a bit overwhelmed with radiation info. Thanks.
    by highlander 4/14/2011 2:04:30 PM

  • Plans to "shore up" reactors at Daiichi against earthquakes www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Nancy 4/14/2011 2:05:53 PM

  • This might help www.hpa.org.uk
    by UKVal 4/14/2011 2:06:31 PM

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