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  • SFP launched a few assemblies during its explosion?
    by Markfm 4/20/2011 2:46:12 PM

  • @Markfm dont think so if tepco is correct there is no much damage to fuel in SFP
    by xxx 4/20/2011 2:46:56 PM

  • New much better drone images with some new things visible. MUCH better than the drone images we had previously. www.houseoffoust.com
    by Nancy 4/20/2011 2:47:23 PM

  • @Markfm They thought some material was ejected. But they also had a bunch of reactor parts in the SFP at the time of the explosion. Make me wonder if parts of those objects are what was strewn about in the explosion. There were also comments that the hot spots if caused by fuel chunks would be much hotter or burning?
    by Nancy 4/20/2011 2:48:54 PM

  • New images I posted. We can see the parked reactor cap on #4. Also more views inside the deck, SFP. I grabbed a few of the lower level looking under the SFP but they are pretty dark even with photo correction. Also good images of the exposed plumbing on 3
    by Nancy 4/20/2011 2:50:15 PM

  • Here's what I get for SFP 4 water since March 22: Concrete pump trucks (58m class) is about 150t water discharge (March 22, 17:17 to 20:32);Concrete pump trucks (58m class) is about 130t water discharge (March 23, 10:00 to 13:02); Concrete pump trucks (58m class) is about 150t water discharge (March 24, 14:36 to 17:30; Concrete pump trucks (58m class) is about 150t water discharge (March 25, 19:05 to 22:07); Concrete pump trucks (58m class) is about 125t water discharge (March 27, 16:55 to 19:25); Concrete pump trucks (58m class) is about 140t freshwater discharge (March 30, 14:04 to 18:33);Concrete pump trucks (58m class) is about 180t freshwater discharge (April 1, 8:28 to 14:14); Concrete pump trucks (58m class) is about 180t freshwater discharge (April 03, 17:14 to 22:16); Concrete pump trucks (58m class) is about 20t fresh water discharge (April 05, 17:35 to 18:22)Concrete pump trucks (58m class) is about 38t fresh water discharge (April 07, 18:23 to 19:40) Concrete pump trucks (58m class) is about 90t fresh water discharge (April 09, 17:07 to 19:24) Concrete pump trucks (62m class) is about 195t freshwater discharge (April 13, 0:30 to 6:57); Concrete pump trucks (62m class) is about 140t freshwater discharge (April 15, 14:30 to 18:29); Concrete pump trucks (62m class) is about 140t freshwater discharge (April 17, 17:39 to 21:22)Concrete pump trucks (62m class) is about 40t fresh water discharge (April 19, 10:17 to 11:35)
    by Markfm 4/20/2011 2:52:40 PM

  • "Concrete pump trucks (62m class) is about 40t fresh water discharge (April 19, 10:17 to 11:35)" so core temp go up after water injection, interesting
    by xxx 4/20/2011 2:54:20 PM

  • From one of the PDF's posted this morning. This is the time frame for that core replacement & maint work they were doing on #4. Someone mentioned they were 180 days into the process. This blurb says it takes longer to do it so they were likely in the shroud swap out process or getting ready to do it when the quake hit. "the period of this outage, including core internals replacement, was initially expected to be 300 days. Actually, however. the whole period took 422 days. www.jsme.or.jp
    by Nancy 4/20/2011 2:56:50 PM

  • @xxx are they recording the spraying on the deck? Do they record it differently or are they recording it as a sfp spray? When was the previous spray day?
    by Nancy 4/20/2011 2:57:40 PM

  • @Markfm would be interesting to match those with the daily heat maps and see if a pattern emerges?
    by Nancy 4/20/2011 2:59:09 PM

  • There are new videos on the tepco site. My stupid iPad won't play them. www.tepco.co.jp
    by Scilla 4/20/2011 3:00:08 PM

  • I count roughly 1200 tons of water poured into there over the 22 March - 3 April. That's a huge amount of water.
    by Markfm 4/20/2011 3:00:10 PM

  • @Scilla weird they are all zip files. Will download them and see what I can do.
    by Nancy 4/20/2011 3:03:17 PM

  • They're WMV9 encoded, looks like an oddball frame size, from a quick look. VLC does wonders with them :)
    by Markfm 4/20/2011 3:05:30 PM

  • @Scilla I will watch them
    by xxx 4/20/2011 3:05:42 PM

  • WTF? Each zipped video is a couple of seconds long of filming over someone's shoulder of the laptop screen of the robots. XXX can you let me know if you find anything significant? Do you have the ability to upload them to youtube?
    by Nancy 4/20/2011 3:08:11 PM

  • ehh video recorded from laptop screen... great quality
    by xxx 4/20/2011 3:08:15 PM

  • @xxx It is a freaking game. :-( Zip a pile of five second videos.
    by Nancy 4/20/2011 3:08:48 PM

  • @Nancy You're all set. Lemme know if prob.
    by Jim Carver 4/20/2011 3:09:00 PM

  • @Nancy I can connect them in one video...
    by xxx 4/20/2011 3:09:46 PM

  • omg 2 robots to read from geiger counter and now video from laptop screen... Japan technology...
    by xxx 4/20/2011 3:10:53 PM

  • @xxx Yeah, you can just use 'cat'
    by Jim Carver 4/20/2011 3:11:16 PM

  • None of that fancy automatic data logging instrumentation :)
    by Markfm 4/20/2011 3:15:31 PM

  • Nancy, see what comes out on cryptome
    by Markfm 4/20/2011 3:16:24 PM

  • @xxx that would be a huge help, then upload it somewhere.
    by Nancy 4/20/2011 3:17:48 PM

  • @Markfm That is what I thought. I know those systems are capable of recording.
    by Nancy 4/20/2011 3:18:44 PM

  • back in ... yeahhhhhhhh
    by dean 4/20/2011 3:23:30 PM

  • It was probably 640x360 pixel initially, looks like the released video was 320x180.
    by Markfm 4/20/2011 3:23:43 PM

  • Leaving this here in case Jo pops in. Earlier mention about the mystery metal piece on #4 roof. He asked about the piece hitting the wall of 4 and it actually bowing out rather than caving in. As in the bottom bows out making the top cave inward. If you look at this side shot I think he is right on the money. But what IS the big long piece?? www.houseoffoust.com

    by Nancy via Houseoffoust 4/20/2011 3:26:20 PM

  • It might have even been actual 720p hd originally.
    by Markfm 4/20/2011 3:27:08 PM

  • Hi Dean, finding all sorts of things on #4 this morning. Data about the work going on. Oddities in the explosions. Sounds like they were in process doing the core shroud replacement at the time of the quake
    by Nancy 4/20/2011 3:29:04 PM

  • Radiation Control in the Core Shroud Replacement Project of Fukushima-Daiichi NPS Unit #2 Introduction In June 1994, a fissure caused by a stress corrosion crack was detected in the shroud main body installed in the reactor pressure vessel in Unit #2 of this station. The structure of shroud is shown in Fig.1 Construction of shroud. Countermeasures in this case included reinforcement of the cracked portion with brackets as well as a visual inspection every two periodical inspections on the weld line where cracks were reported frequently at all six plants. Hydrogen injection was also started sequentially in 1996. Since 1997, hydrogen injection has been done at all plants of the Fukushima-Daiichi Nuclear Power Station.
    In addition to these items, preventive maintenance measures to cope with stress corrosion cracking
    included replacement of SUS304-made shrouds in Units #1, 2, 3, and 5 sequentially with that using the material (SUS316L) that is resistant to stress corrosion cracking. P-6a-290
    Shielding of the reactor inside the wall: Shielding was provided for the highly-radioactivated reactor wall and for the reactor bottom where radioactive materials tend to accumulate. For the reactor wall, 36 pieces of 7 m high and 3 ton weight shields were provided. Each shield consists of the 80 mm thick lead covered by 5 mm thick stainless steel. The reactor bottom was provided with a 25 mm thick stainless steel shield. The reactor wall shield is shown in Fig. 6. Radiation Control in the Core Shroud Replacement Project ofFukushima-Daiichi NPS Unit #2
    by Tenzing 4/20/2011 3:29:26 PM

  • @dean Hi dean, boy they were some dirty dogs for letting that thing blow up so badly.
    by Jim Carver 4/20/2011 3:30:34 PM

  • Radiation Control in the Core Shroud Replacement Project ofFukushima-Daiichi NPS Unit #2 www.irpa.net
    by Tenzing 4/20/2011 3:31:13 PM

  • Ok I connected all parts from reactor 3, now uploading on youtube, will take some time to finish
    by xxx 4/20/2011 3:33:35 PM

  • morning Nancy. I can't wait to read on . .. .gm Jim.. you know it... one thing i wish we knew was what was the
    by dean 4/20/2011 3:33:48 PM

  • gm Tenzing
    by dean 4/20/2011 3:35:00 PM

  • @dean new thermography: reactor 4 core temp bigger 11C than sfp...
    by xxx 4/20/2011 3:37:56 PM

  • @Tenzing hydrogen injection? Do they mean as some sort of testing of structures? Did they mean some sort of filling of hydrogen on a regular basis? I thought hydrogen was the last thing they wanted and they used nitrogen to inert various areas. Very odd.
    by Nancy 4/20/2011 3:39:21 PM

  • MEGAWATT-SEC from the explosion.. most reactor vessels are designed to withstand a certain MW-SEC power burst from an explosion..
    by dean 4/20/2011 3:39:49 PM

  • if they had already placed all the shielding in the reactor vessel to reduce the rad levels while replacing the shroud,,, just imagine all that extra metal 108 tons in the vessel,,,
    by dean 4/20/2011 3:39:51 PM

  • @dean I didn't understand about the H2 either.
    by Jim Carver 4/20/2011 3:40:29 PM

  • plus I would be surprised if they left fuel in the core during the time they were changing out the shrould.. wow
    by dean 4/20/2011 3:41:25 PM

  • @dean are you talking some sort of temporary shielding to give the workers a safe area to work?
    by Nancy 4/20/2011 3:41:29 PM

  • @dean Supposedly all of the fuel on 4 was put in the SFP so the well should have been empty.
    by Nancy 4/20/2011 3:41:59 PM

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