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  • I meant no later than sunday.between 24 -72 hrs?
    by Veenie 5/6/2011 7:06:02 PM

  • You guys read this right? "It is an attachment from the readers through three young officials of the Office of Energy. TEPCO meeting minutes total integration of government headquarters on May 1 of this. [The release of high concentrations of 8 days and this will remain to be done.] [the aide Hosono, this case is very important on the go to the next step and installation of heat exchangers, and (the future in terms that can be discharged out of the radioactive material), contaminated water Avoid repeated failures during the discharge, the participants closely to share information we want working with high sensitivity, which was said.] "
    by Jim 5/6/2011 7:07:00 PM

  • Jim.. imagine the heat sink created by all that water around the reactor vessel, the fuel creating heat but to have that volume of cooler water to try and heat, I just don't think it will happen and the core will cooll
    by dean 5/6/2011 7:07:13 PM

  • @dean I think they will have to do it. @all That was the literal translation. A Japanese speaker translated it to the 8th of May, something is going to happen with a large release.
    by Jim 5/6/2011 7:09:16 PM

  • @Veenie: And I think we all knew (deep down) within the first 72 hours that this would be the most likely outcome.
    by DonnerT 5/6/2011 7:09:36 PM

  • You know @all, If one reads thse boards, it feels as though , this is actual happenings, since there is ZERO coverage in the news whatsoever, if one comes here they must bbe thinking..are all these people insane ??
    by Veenie 5/6/2011 7:11:40 PM

  • Veenie... it would be interesting to compare our predictions to what actually happened
    by dean 5/6/2011 7:12:42 PM

  • @Jim I wonder if they're actually just talking about running the air purification system until May 8, when workers are supposed to go inside. They are trying to discharge, from the building, the air with high radiation content.
    by Markfm 5/6/2011 7:12:57 PM

  • Not necessarily anything bad expected on May 8, just that they need to purge things by May 8.
    by Markfm 5/6/2011 7:14:05 PM

  • Ok, so we have a imminent release of High Radioactivity from what someone posted here and the probability of explosion or crumbling ?
    by Veenie 5/6/2011 7:14:26 PM

  • @Markfm That seems to be the benign answer. Another is that it is intenionally leaked for political purposes. All I know is that it was removed from the original source.
    by Jim 5/6/2011 7:14:42 PM

  • The overall context, going on to discuss installation of the heat exchangers, is consistent with what has been published as the work plan for #1.
    by Markfm 5/6/2011 7:16:38 PM

  • @Markfm What about the 'sensitivity' part? What could be sensitive about cleaning some air?
    by Jim 5/6/2011 7:18:22 PM

  • From a benign standpoint "make sure you actually are using the filters on those new machines, don't just dump the air from #1 into the outside"
    by Markfm 5/6/2011 7:19:36 PM

  • and the bumble about the sea releases.
    by Jim 5/6/2011 7:20:39 PM

  • Of course, it's also quite possible that they would like to vent #1, knock its pressure down. I've been commenting for some time that I wonder how much pressure they really want to build in the RPV, given the beating it has taken. I know it's far below its design point, but everything has been stressed severely.
    by Markfm 5/6/2011 7:21:43 PM

  • Still running that PR campaign to the bitter end...@mark I agree, close to wet TP.
    by Jim 5/6/2011 7:22:38 PM

  • Here's a new video I made after noticing that the walls of UNits 1 and 3 are different.
    by Ian 5/6/2011 7:23:18 PM

  • The sea releases is likely related to the external heat exchanger system that they have said they plan to set up -- make sure they're doing things smartly, not dumping a lot of water back out into the open.
    by Markfm 5/6/2011 7:23:35 PM

  • TEPCO's track record, having started with the leaking hoses to pump water, has undoubtedly heightened sensitivity to make sure they don't keep spilling water.
    by Markfm 5/6/2011 7:24:36 PM

  • WeTep, now weaker than TapeCo
    by Jim 5/6/2011 7:24:37 PM

  • Stock up on kitty litter, duct tape, and lots of StopLeak prior to moving forward.
    by Markfm edited by Markfm 5/6/2011 7:25:20 PM

  • @Ian Nice analysis, well presented. Great work,
    by Rob in SF 5/6/2011 7:31:58 PM

  • @Ian Professional Editor ?...very well done.hat's off to you..time sequence overlay, content and transitions superb
    by Veenie 5/6/2011 7:35:40 PM

  • @Ian Fine work. That should be pinned.
    by radioguy 5/6/2011 7:41:59 PM

  • @rob thanks I was trying to figure out how to save it I will pin your post
    by elainekirk 5/6/2011 7:46:54 PM

  • @ian, going on 71,000 hits on this one, www.youtube.com , nice numbers.
    by Rob in SF edited by elainekirk 5/6/2011 7:50:10 PM

  • Thanks guys! :) It's all still in-progress, this new video isn't meant to reject my first.
    by Ian 5/6/2011 8:03:23 PM

  • Any early shots of the facility?
    by Markfm 5/6/2011 8:06:15 PM

  • Really nothing to see on the stream and that's teppycam-pic: pointscope01.jp

    by Mina via Pointscope01.jp 5/6/2011 8:14:31 PM

  • Ian, last slide, "detonation", not "detenation". Really nice job. Still not sure I'm buying Arnie G's assertion that it was a supercritical explosion. It takes work to get a functioning boom, just the right masses, geometry, impact; it feels like a big reach that the zirconium-clad rods, in their storage racks, are supposed to have done so.
    by Markfm 5/6/2011 8:18:40 PM

  • How tepco decided it's units could withstand an earthquake.
    www.tepco.co.jp
    by elainekirk 5/6/2011 8:28:09 PM

  • Did I miss something besides Ian's new video? I went back a couple of pages and it sounded like something was up but couldn't figure out what.
    by Nancy 5/6/2011 8:29:29 PM

  • did they get their answer using a magic 8 ball
    by Markfm 5/6/2011 8:30:57 PM

  • @nancy it waas a guess what will happen in 72hrs game dean started spose we had better tidy up
    by elainekirk 5/6/2011 8:32:24 PM

  • Nancy.. we were postulating when another explosion would occur
    by dean 5/6/2011 8:32:38 PM

  • @mark here is the press release @Nancy have yoy got these ?
    www.tepco.co.jp
    by elainekirk 5/6/2011 8:33:01 PM

  • The TEPCO press release claimed it was due to opening the air lock at #1 on Sunday. I'm sticking with my doom and gloom prediction that #4 sinks into the swamp Sunday.
    by Nancy 5/6/2011 8:36:33 PM

  • elaine, that write up ,, at least the last part sounded like legal jargon..
    by dean 5/6/2011 8:36:58 PM

  • @Nancy, if temps and radioactivity keep going up in #3, it might beat it to it !!
    by wtm 5/6/2011 8:39:19 PM

  • @dean how long does it take corium to cool down? Days, weeks, months?
    by Nancy 5/6/2011 8:41:42 PM

  • my estimation - months..... flooding with a huge water heat sink may be shorter time
    by dean 5/6/2011 8:42:47 PM

  • @dean: Can you stop reaction in a pile of coreium by simply cooling it?
    by DonnerT 5/6/2011 8:46:20 PM

  • I was reading that detonation risk can be lowered by use of catalytic hydrogen recombiners
    by dean 5/6/2011 8:46:30 PM

  • books.google.com do a search on corium and the catalytic hydrogen recombiners
    by dean 5/6/2011 8:49:35 PM

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