Japan Earthquake

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San Diego had a slight uptick in gamma levels today..like the spike from 4/17. Our levels are high to begin with so I'm not sure if this is at all significant. www.epa.gov
by LM 5/14/2011 1:47:11 AM

Despite recent alerts, nuclear regulators give an 'all-safe': www.csmonitor.com
by bo 5/14/2011 1:50:09 AM

That's in the US
by bo 5/14/2011 1:51:20 AM

Tippycam no visibility but some noise
by bo 5/14/2011 1:54:35 AM

@bo - yep heavy rain I think. Did you see the quake on the cam?
by UKVal 5/14/2011 1:56:11 AM

@UKVal no was not online yet. Pretty visible shaking eh?
by bo 5/14/2011 1:57:00 AM

@bo -very visible! Quake was pretty close to plant.
by UKVal 5/14/2011 1:58:17 AM

@bo I am really at a loss with the NRC and the "everything is fine". There were people in the NRC and from every nuke group in the US pointing out huge gaps like the lack of enough back up power to get a plant through the time needed to bring in more fuel or get grid power hooked back up. Never mind all the design issues Dean and others have pointed out where back up systems depend on grid power or things like pumped water to work.
by lillymunster 5/14/2011 1:59:13 AM

@UKVal I saw that in the posts. It's like they are trying to thread a needle while land mines are going off on all sides.
by bo 5/14/2011 1:59:20 AM

@lillymunster I suppose the best we can hope for is that this is the public face but that off camera they are actually doing some real vetting. That still sucks, but that's the best I can imagine.
by bo 5/14/2011 2:00:25 AM

@bo also - did you see this sad article on evacuation? Farmers in the vicinity claim their produce is safe to eat, but that the country has become hysterical about Fukushima's fallout. Many have heard stories of children evacuated from the village, sometimes hundreds of kilometers away, being bullied, a painful echo of the decades-long discrimination that dogged survivors of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
"I've heard that other kids shout 'baikin' (vermin) at them," said Shoji's granddaughter, Hiroko, 22.
Like many in the area, Shoji, whose family has been farming this land since the 1880s, is too old to become embroiled in a protracted legal battle with Tepco or the government.' search.japantimes.co.jp
by UKVal 5/14/2011 2:01:21 AM

At this point when I stare too long at tippycam, I'm not just expecting the possibility of Godzilla rising out of the sea behind it, but also of the giant foot from Monty Python coming down from above and going squash.
by bo 5/14/2011 2:01:32 AM

Is it just me but does 4 look like it's missing more panels from the south wall with some strange things happening on top?
by LM 5/14/2011 2:01:56 AM

@LM -top of 4 looks more broken up to me
by UKVal 5/14/2011 2:02:54 AM

@LM it does look like strange things up top
by bo 5/14/2011 2:03:05 AM

@bo Lol!
by UKVal 5/14/2011 2:03:33 AM

Exactly!
by LM 5/14/2011 2:04:13 AM

@UKVal yeah I have seen that. This is what all the evacuees, who may not have been exposed to significant amounts of radiation, will now face forever. No one will step in to alleviate this, or compensate in any way. The focus will be keeping businesses afloat, not people in good mental health conditions.
by bo 5/14/2011 2:04:40 AM

Is that white thing on top of #4 a person??
by bo 5/14/2011 2:06:45 AM

My heart breaks thinking about the psychological stress that the Fukushima children are being subjected to.
by LM 5/14/2011 2:07:07 AM

Bait for Godzilla?
by bo 5/14/2011 2:07:11 AM

@LM yeah. Victimization on top of victimization, rippling forward.
by bo 5/14/2011 2:07:38 AM

Maybe Faye Ray.
by LM 5/14/2011 2:07:57 AM

@bo, they are using the crane to try to pull the whole building to the left ??? LOL
by wtm 5/14/2011 2:08:07 AM

@wtm it is just too hard to tell. And with uncertainty the mind fills all kinds of things in, I know mine is.
by bo 5/14/2011 2:10:15 AM

@bo -we live in a sick world. The systems and industries thaat control our lives behave in ways that are inexcusable
by UKVal 5/14/2011 2:10:20 AM

@wtm I don't know about structural integrity issues, but it seems like pulling it one way would make it more fragile altogether
by bo 5/14/2011 2:10:57 AM

Accurate data destroys Optimistic tepco assessment. www.asahi.com
by Scilla 5/14/2011 2:11:52 AM

@UKVal agreed. However we all know that in our own lives, families and communities there is so much human decency. It sure does seem though, that it is the worst of human nature that asserts itself to levels of national and international power
by bo 5/14/2011 2:12:23 AM

@bo I know it's not on the same scale, but I worked with kids in care for nearly 30 years & now services they need have been cut to pay the debts created by greedy bankers
by UKVal 5/14/2011 2:12:30 AM

@wtm I don't think they would pull it to the left but they might be installing something on the north end to hold things up or block them from leaning more.
by lillymunster 5/14/2011 2:12:31 AM

Has the middle right, dark area, of #4 always been so collapsed looking? Like a jumble of girders?
by bo 5/14/2011 2:20:40 AM

I found this in the Japanese page someone posted on the other scribble. Japanese Alphabet, might make trying to decipher papers easier www.japanese-symbols.org
by lillymunster 5/14/2011 2:20:53 AM

@bo It may be the angle of the sunlight. Later in the day (around this time) there seems to be strong light from the right.
by lillymunster 5/14/2011 2:21:58 AM

@lillymunster I was wondering whether they propped up the right side. It looks a little straighter than earlier and it would explain the extra buckling up top.
by LM 5/14/2011 2:22:47 AM

Ah, thanks @lillymunster. Also, regarding the Japanese scripts, a tiny primer. Hiragana is used for traditional Japanese words and katakana is used for foreign words that have entered the language. So a lot of technical words will be in katakana, and the predicates and prepositional pieces will be in hiragana. Also, the kanji is what makes it all problematic for westerners.
by bo 5/14/2011 2:24:46 AM

@all I can't stand wondering anymore. What is the tall skinny white pole in the trees
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by ch 5/14/2011 2:25:11 AM

@ch It seems to be a crane of some sort. I had the video feed on full screen and was watching it go back and forth.
by lillymunster 5/14/2011 2:27:14 AM

sorry enter button got me. I thought it might be one of the watering trucks with long boon, but if it is why is it in the trees not by the reactors? Didn't think there was anything but trees out that far?
by ch 5/14/2011 2:28:26 AM

@bo any suggestions of a good source to learn the complexities? Verbal language is somewhat easy to pick up, written is something quite different. :-)
by lillymunster 5/14/2011 2:28:35 AM

@lillymunster @ch Maybe it has a camera on top for Tepco to get closer shots. Just guessing?
by LM 5/14/2011 2:29:27 AM

@ch - beats me - I thought the sports ground was in that area but can't believe they're watering the grass.
by UKVal 5/14/2011 2:29:35 AM

Reports of Fuku worker falling ill. mobile.twithey couldtter.com
by Panserbjorne9 edited by lillymunster 5/14/2011 2:29:38 AM

TEPCO concealed radiation data before explosion at No. 3 reactor
2011/05/14
Tokyo Electric Power Co. concealed data showing spikes in radiation levels at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant in March, one day before a hydrogen explosion injured seven workers.

The Asahi Shimbun obtained a 100-page internal TEPCO report containing minute-to-minute data on radiation levels at the plant as well as pressure and water levels inside the No. 3 reactor from March 11 to April 30.

The data has never been released by the company that operates the stricken plant.

The unpublished information shows that at 1:17 p.m. on March 13, 300 millisieverts of radiation per hour was detected inside a double-entry door at the No. 3 reactor building. At 2:31 p.m., the radiation level was measured at 300 millisieverts or higher per hour to the north of the door...

...Keiji Miyazaki, professor emeritus of nuclear reactor engineering at Osaka University, criticized TEPCO's policy.

He said such important data should be immediately released to ensure the safety of the public and workers at the plant, especially in an emergency like the Fukushima nuclear accident.

Miyazaki said TEPCO's decision to conceal the data must be scrutinized.

Failure to release radiation data in the early stages of the crisis is said to have delayed the evacuations of communities near the plant.

Kiyoshi Sakurai, another nuclear power expert, said a thorough examination is needed not only on TEPCO's unpublished data, but also verbal communications of those involved, instructions issued by the central government and TEPCO, and the communication structure between management and workers at the plant.
www.asahi.com
by estacion 5/14/2011 2:29:52 AM