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@Pedro Jesus They did at one point have either a doctor or an RN residing in the quake safe command center building at the plant. If they no longer have anyone at there or a quick way to get someone back to the center at Daiini, they need to.by Nancy 5/16/2011 6:04:53 PM
@wtm It'll be sunrise in Japan 2 hours from now.by LM 5/16/2011 6:05:16 PM- It's 3:05am there now.by LM 5/16/2011 6:06:07 PM
- @RBeaner Apples and oranges, everyone has been evacuated from the 20km zone and residents are not fighting a NPP disaster under hazmat conditions. There were obvious delays in getting this guy out and it sounds like no medical staff. Even a couple of SDF medics and an ambulance would be something.by Nancy 5/16/2011 6:06:47 PM
If I remove a piece of tape and find two elephants under it, I would be worried :)by Markfm 5/16/2011 6:07:08 PM- @elainekirk ROTF
LMAOby Nancy 5/16/2011 6:08:20 PM 
@Nancy I'm sure the officials will investigate the circumstances around the death of this worker as they usually do. We'll have to wait and see what they find. It's sad but it's not something we were not predicting already. Considering the circumstances I'm surprised there haven't been more fatal accidents although I wish there would be none.by Pedro Jesus 5/16/2011 6:08:35 PM
@Lethbridgean Nothing said he did NOT see a medical doctor. Edano is NOT a medical doctor, but thats not the point. In yiour chair, and mine as well, things are moving slowly, like press releases. For them, in the plant, things are moving at military combat speed. Things have not stabilized.by RBeaner 5/16/2011 6:08:47 PM- SDF is still helping with things related to the plant. SDF also have training in dealing with nuclear hazards. They would be the best source of health intervention and evacuation.by Nancy 5/16/2011 6:10:58 PM
The same page via Google Translate to make it easier
translate.google.comby Veenie edited by elainekirk 5/16/2011 6:16:02 PM- @Nancy You assume that because a 20 Km "exclusion Zone" has been directed, then everyone evaporates, and is gone. IIRC 10% is still there. They didn't leave. So there are Major issues to be dealt with for their "self defense force" and emergency services. Question... Where (how far) is the closest operating hospital to Fukushima Daichi?by RBeaner 5/16/2011 6:16:34 PM
- @RBeaner @Nancy Also, most roads have been destroyed by the earthquake. Access is limited.by Pedro Jesus 5/16/2011 6:18:49 PM
- Just a question...why not keep one physician on hand in the seismically protected contol center to deal with acute injuries..radiactivity related or otherwise?by LM 5/16/2011 6:20:12 PM
- I would think Tepco could afford to pay 1 man....by LM 5/16/2011 6:21:03 PM
@elainekirk oh Elaine where do you get them from!!!LOL!!!by UKVal 5/16/2011 6:22:19 PM- @Nancy I'm not a cold hearted bastard, I'm just saying things there are not what you would normally expect from your local emergency response. It's entirely possiblr any doctor left to deal with the thousands of tsunami injuries.by RBeaner 5/16/2011 6:22:40 PM
@wtm: LM is right, it's 3:15 AM there, Sunrise is about 4:30 AM. I had to be asleep when I answered you. Sorry.by estacion 5/16/2011 6:24:09 PM
"TEPCO said it has assigned one doctor to the Fukushima No. 2 nuclear power plant and four doctors to J Village, a base for workers' activities at nuclear power plants, to stand by around the clock. However, the utility has stationed one doctor for just six hours a day from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant due to concern over the doctor's exposure to radiation."
www.yomiuri.co.jpby Markfm 5/16/2011 6:24:53 PM- @Veenie re post about docs- I'm getting 'page too large to translate'.by UKVal 5/16/2011 6:24:59 PM
- translated OK for me.by Markfm 5/16/2011 6:25:13 PM
- @Markfm What happened to the Hippocratic oath??by UKVal 5/16/2011 6:25:44 PM
@RBeaner search.japantimes.co.jp
In addition, workers on the frontline have no doctors to provide emergency care. Medical staffers are on standby at the J-Village training center in the town of Naraha, some 20 km from the plant.
Tepco has said it will improve the work environment.by Maureen Burke 5/16/2011 6:25:54 PM- @MarkFM Thanks! Jeez...you'd think they could rotate MDs so they had proper coverage.by LM 5/16/2011 6:26:27 PM
- TEPCO and GOV, In my opinion, have screwed up the response to this disaster. On the other hand I don't like to see unrealistic demands placed on the contol of this sh..stuff. We have enough in then facts to nail them, we ndon't need unsubstantiated rumor to add weight to our argument.by RBeaner 5/16/2011 6:29:11 PM
- More than a little surprising that nowhere at that facility is a place that's got reasonably low radiation readings, clean, a first level treatment station with an ambulance parked nearby...by Markfm 5/16/2011 6:29:40 PM
- @RBeaner - What's an unsubstantiated rumor?by Maureen Burke 5/16/2011 6:30:39 PM
- They could hire the unemployed guy who crashed the gate a few weeks back as the driver -- he knows where both Daiichi and Daini are.by Markfm 5/16/2011 6:32:15 PM
- I'm not asking for a definition, by the way.by Maureen Burke 5/16/2011 6:32:27 PM
- @Markfm - lolby Maureen Burke 5/16/2011 6:32:52 PM
@veenie !!!!!!! you marvel what a find!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!by elainekirk 5/16/2011 6:33:21 PM- For those of us Japanese-impaired: www.tepco.co.jp "Submission of a report regarding the plant data of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station at the time of the earthquake to Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry"by Markfm 5/16/2011 6:35:23 PM
- @RBeaner The military can manage to treat and evac soldiers in toxic and contaminated environments, they train for it. This is a disaster situation, having a plan to remove the injured is hardly "unrealistic". I don't see you volunteering to go work there, they are looking for people and pay pretty good.by Nancy 5/16/2011 6:36:45 PM
- @Maureen Burke Well for example there were no doctors (MD) at the plant. I personnally assume ther were, until/unless proven wrong.by RBeaner 5/16/2011 6:37:24 PM
- @Nancy - Thank you for that.by Maureen Burke 5/16/2011 6:37:27 PM
- TEPCO did publish this one item in English: www.tepco.co.jp (The document shows things right at the initial time, and includes something a guide to the types of data collected).by Markfm edited by Markfm 5/16/2011 6:37:45 PM
- @RBeaner - Did you read the Japan Times article? There was no doctor on site.by Maureen Burke 5/16/2011 6:38:23 PM
UNIT 1 www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 5/16/2011 6:39:15 PM- I don't think it's unreasonable for us to discuss things that we believe are aggregious. If info is presented that confirms we have been wrong..all of us are big enough to adjust our opinions. Why are we here if not to exchange and sort out fact from fiction?by LM 5/16/2011 6:39:49 PM
- @elainekirk THANK YOU for letting me know that this is new.....you made my day ))by Veenie 5/16/2011 6:41:41 PM
- The english version is easier to interpret, though it indicates the three reactors were scrummed -- they must have been playing rugby.by Markfm 5/16/2011 6:42:35 PM
- @RBeaner By the litmus test you have presented, your own opinions would be considered unsubstantiated rumor. No disrespect intended!by LM 5/16/2011 6:43:17 PM
- @Markfm thanks for the post. very helpful. I assume the rugby scrum was in the control rooms -don't blame them!by UKVal 5/16/2011 6:44:41 PM
Unit 1
by Markfm 5/16/2011 6:45:09 PM- The linked TEPCO document has similar graphs and comments for #2 and #3. (I'm using ZScreen to do image captures -- very handy free app if you run Windows, easily select what to capture, good compression)by Markfm 5/16/2011 6:45:48 PM
Reading the Pictures: One Fukushima Meltdown, Three Crippled Cores, Miles of Land and Ocean Glowing, but Still Nothing to See www.huffingtonpost.comby Majj 5/16/2011 6:46:05 PM
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