Japan Earthquake

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@Dean, looking at your chart, where do you think we are now, and tell me a little more about the electrical fittings in the Drywell that you say will burn out or explode, I imagine these are sensors?
by wtm 5/17/2011 11:49:28 PM

it says they were worried it may damage the reactor @ Edano
by dean 5/17/2011 11:51:04 PM

@Edano some cannot withstand the crash of a small plane. EEP!
by Nancy 5/17/2011 11:51:49 PM

@Nancy : yes nancy, and i assume, a lot of reactors in other countries are the same ! you all have to bother your governments !
by Edano 5/17/2011 11:53:13 PM

@dean I daren't ask but have to -- ''can you 'do it'?''
by elainekirk 5/17/2011 11:54:01 PM

@dean : it did damage, anyways.
by Edano 5/17/2011 11:54:05 PM

@Edano NRC in the US is hinting they are going to declare everything is totally safe and fine here. :-( I don't think people will just take it, if that is their final report.
by Nancy 5/17/2011 11:54:18 PM

wtm.. the electrical penetration assemblies are used to pass electrical cabling through the concrete containment and maintain a gas tight seal. The seals degrade at elevated temperatures 400F they breakdown and leak then at 500F they basically disintegrate, blow out and allow more corium to leak out

by dean 5/17/2011 11:55:33 PM

Hi. Probably a silly question, but what are the unchanging horizontal lines on the teppy cam. Can't be the sea cos they don't move while steam from #1 does?
by cat 5/17/2011 11:56:02 PM

@Cat, Teppy cam or TBS cam ?
by wtm 5/17/2011 11:56:50 PM

@Nancy : we were always told "german reactors are the safest in the world". i think you all heard the same words from your govmts. it is all a lie !
by Edano 5/17/2011 11:57:05 PM

live cam. sorry meant #2
by cat 5/17/2011 11:57:59 PM

@Edano, that is as long as nothing happens to them !!!!
by wtm 5/17/2011 11:58:00 PM

@Cat, TBS/JNN cam ?
by wtm 5/17/2011 11:58:26 PM

@Edano Oh we get the exact same load of animal excrement!
by Nancy 5/17/2011 11:58:54 PM

@wtm yes
by cat 5/17/2011 11:58:56 PM

@Cat, where are you seeing the lines ?
by wtm 5/17/2011 11:59:17 PM

@wtm. They look like waves but don't seem to change at all. On the live tbs cam
by cat 5/18/2011 12:00:39 AM

@cat _ If I'm looking at the same thing it's sea currents -they often appear motionless on the cam for some time
by UKVal 5/18/2011 12:00:46 AM

You may be seeing the sheen of the water or waves....almost look like slicks.
by LM 5/18/2011 12:00:49 AM

elaine I may have to establish a voice contact.. dang.. grrrrrrrrrr. at this..
by dean 5/18/2011 12:01:22 AM

well, now that we have a >10-year lasting catastrophy in japan, people may understand. maybe.
by Edano 5/18/2011 12:01:46 AM

That is what I thought but I watched them for 10 mins or so and they don't alter at all. Just seems odd.
by cat 5/18/2011 12:03:22 AM

Edano.. I guess they had a full blown station black out because they shut off the emergency pumps to simulate it
by dean 5/18/2011 12:03:27 AM

This website has some excellent Nuclear Survival skill information on purifying and storing
water: www.oism.org
by Debra Beckham 5/18/2011 12:03:32 AM

@dean mailing you
by elainekirk 5/18/2011 12:03:58 AM

ty elaine
by dean 5/18/2011 12:04:26 AM

@Cat, it might be some haze that is hanging over the area, doesn't seem to move, could be the ocean behind the plant ?? #2 and 4 are putting out some steam.
by wtm 5/18/2011 12:06:07 AM

TEPCO may face more problems in stabilizing plant

Tokyo Electric Power Company is sticking to its plan to bring the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station under control by next January. But the company may face further unexpected problems.

On Tuesday, TEPCO announced a new timeline which reflects the problems that have emerged since it revealed the original road map one month earlier.
It says it will keep to its original schedule of stabilizing the plant sometime between October and January.

TEPCO Vice President Sakae Muto told reporters that on the whole, the work is progressing as expected, although some tasks are taking longer than planned.

But many unexpected problems have occurred since TEPCO released the original plan in April.

A large quantity of water was found in the basement of the No.1 reactor building. Highly radioactive water was found to be leaking into the ocean from the No.3 reactor.

TEPCO told reporters that the barrier set up in the sea near the water intake of the No.3 reactor may be failing to prevent contaminated water from spreading.
The utility said it will use the mineral zeolite to remove radioactive cesium from the sea.

Workers have not been able to enter the buildings of the No.2 and No.3 reactors, making it impossible to restore their cooling functions.

In addition to these obstacles, TEPCO may also face an increase in the amount of radioactive water, highly radioactive work environments, and the possible effects of the rainy season, typhoons and aftershocks.

Wednesday, May 18, 2011 05:53 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Angie 5/18/2011 12:06:22 AM

Did we already have that one?
by Angie 5/18/2011 12:07:08 AM

one thing that baffles me... if I were in charge there,,, with the unit 1 plant shutdown and much of the containment structure probably in place, why didn't they send a crew to go look for EQ damange and then assume the other plants were damaged that way..
by dean 5/18/2011 12:07:39 AM

@Cat, it is a light breeze across the top of the water.. it moves slightly.
by wtm 5/18/2011 12:07:40 AM

Actually dean we need the people here cos they are more computer savvy than I am . If dean clears his cookies for this site will it maybe solve the problem of his permissions not being granted? i.e. posting pics?
by elainekirk 5/18/2011 12:08:28 AM

@elainekirk It might and worth a try.
by Nancy 5/18/2011 12:08:51 AM

possibly elaine.. I'll try that..
by dean 5/18/2011 12:08:56 AM

now if I can figure out how to clear cookies on here.. "embarassed look"
by dean 5/18/2011 12:09:17 AM

ok I got it.. I'll go work on that and be back
by dean 5/18/2011 12:10:02 AM

What Dean lost all his cookies !!!!! LOL
by wtm 5/18/2011 12:10:19 AM

@Nancy, were you able to take a look at #4 ?? It looks to me that the right roof has dropped farther down, you can now see the top of it.
by wtm 5/18/2011 12:12:33 AM

'TEPCO Vice President Sakae Muto told reporters that on the whole, the work is progressing as expected' love that statement! so ambiguous!
by UKVal 5/18/2011 12:12:44 AM

cnic.jp nice links collection from nuke critics
by Edano 5/18/2011 12:12:48 AM

@wtm I don't see anything that looks changed. If they start doing pan & zoom tonight I can try to grab some screenshots.
by Nancy 5/18/2011 12:15:00 AM

@wtm. Yes I'm sure you're right it just looks so oily. Guess I'm not used to seeing it without the fog and smog.
by cat 5/18/2011 12:15:48 AM

That vid that RobSF posted shows what looks like repair work going on on 4. www.youtube.com
by UKVal 5/18/2011 12:15:59 AM

Gotta love TEPCO, that buried document with the photos has so much security I can't save a copy and attempt to open it in anything else without a password. So I am doing a work around. It will be out in English if TEPCO wants it that way or not. :-)
by Nancy 5/18/2011 12:16:17 AM