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And if this argument you give is what's needed to prove criticality, why is the case for Chernobyl being a nuclear not like this argument, but based only on zenon-isotope ratios? www.springerlink.com I'm not saying it's not, I just want to understand.
by Ian 5/18/2011 5:03:34 PM

@elainekirk I disagree with you about Busby, what kind of fear and panic is he spreading, he is telling the truth.
by Bobby1 5/18/2011 5:03:54 PM

@Ian www.nrl.moh.govt.nz pp. 36-37. The ratios resemble those of a Chinese nuclear test on Nov. 17, 1976.
by Bobby1 5/18/2011 5:05:19 PM

@elainekirk - fear and panic is scarier to you than corporations and governments covering up the truth eh.?

by Lethbridgean 5/18/2011 5:05:19 PM

@elainekirk: Busby had fame enough before Fukushima accident. :)
by estacion 5/18/2011 5:07:54 PM

Busby:" Fukushima Reactors a Raging Radioactive Inferno" -
ok if thats the case lets all go home eh
by elainekirk 5/18/2011 5:09:21 PM

Based on what I see here, en.wikipedia.org not sure how much credence I would put in claims by Busby. It sounds like he's been refuted multiple times, essentially that he tends to come up with theories exaggerating what is found in reality. Generally, a "fringe" type. Might be right on some things, but there's a credibility hill to climb.
by Markfm 5/18/2011 5:09:57 PM

it's easier to take Gundersen more seriously than Busby.. i think that headlines that the one below hurt our cause.
by Panserbjorne9 5/18/2011 5:11:02 PM

people see that and just dismiss it out of hand because it sounds so fantastical and overdramatic. So any chance of thoughtful analysis of new information is blown.
by Panserbjorne9 5/18/2011 5:11:59 PM

Yeah, but both of them are speaking the same conclusion at the end.
by estacion 5/18/2011 5:13:21 PM

MIT: Atmosphere Above Japan Heated Rapidly Before M9 Earthquake beforeitsnews.com
by Panserbjorne9 5/18/2011 5:14:08 PM

Busby is a respected scientist, and I am glad he has stood up against the nuclear sociopaths.
by Bobby1 5/18/2011 5:14:19 PM

@Bobby1, but just looking at the spread of radionuclides and that they're similar of a nuclear wasn't the methodology used to test the theory that Chernobyl involved a a nuclear explosion. You said the other day "very high concentrations of Xe-133 detected support this theory," but it's not a matter of lot's a x133, but the ratio of x133 & x133m.
by Ian 5/18/2011 5:14:19 PM

Panserbjorne9, unfortunately you are right. If one chooses to be melodramatic, that is their own choice. If they come up with theories that seem to be off by several orders of magnitude compared to empirical reality, their opinions are rightfully devalued. "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" is one term for such people.
by Markfm 5/18/2011 5:15:09 PM

@Ian Yes, the Chernobyl study used a different ratio. The large amount (unmeasurable) of Xe-133 supports the Tc-99m etc. analysis.
by Bobby1 5/18/2011 5:16:53 PM

Unmeasurable? Large amounts tend to be readily measurable.
by Markfm 5/18/2011 5:17:44 PM

@Markfm and another unfortunate truth is that those with actual potentially dangerous agendas will use such melodrama-types as a 'screen'- let those types of headlines run amok to instill a disinterest that then distracts from the truth.
by Panserbjorne9 5/18/2011 5:17:47 PM

RBeaner and Markfm.. I stand corrected on the E and e thing.. I had in my head the e as a constant .. my bad..
by dean 5/18/2011 5:19:35 PM

good read. Fukushima Daiichi Diary: Other Problems online.wsj.com
by Panserbjorne9 5/18/2011 5:20:09 PM

Panserbjorne9, true. Generally both the most wildly optimistic and wildly pessimistic proclamations tend to be wrong. The difficulty is always trying to sort out the wheat from the chaff.
by Markfm 5/18/2011 5:20:22 PM

@Markfm Re: wikipedia "The trial by internet continues. I see you guys with some type of evangelistic zeal attempting to portray Dr. Busby in the worst light possible. The Negative Bias is clear. Also Busby's paper published by Green Audit are important, so I disagree with their removal. Further to this important works including those by Karl Grossman highlight the industry's fraud and cover ups. Oz Waver (talk) 8:10, 18 April 2011 (UTC)" en.wikipedia.org
by Bobby1 5/18/2011 5:20:28 PM

I have the translated document done. It appears to explain in detail the water recirculation and water handling plan. www.houseoffoust.com
by Nancy edited by elainekirk 5/18/2011 5:20:43 PM

If I get time, I will try to evaluate the ICRP vs ECRR projections myself, this is the kind of stuff I do for a living.
by Bobby1 5/18/2011 5:25:24 PM

@Bobby1 Just remember to note that ICRP was scientific and peer reviewed
by RBeaner 5/18/2011 5:26:05 PM

@Markfm you grab the scythe, i'll hold the bag. :)
by Panserbjorne9 5/18/2011 5:26:39 PM

@RBeaner I skimmed both of their recommendations, both seem reasonable and scientific.
by Bobby1 5/18/2011 5:26:45 PM

Fun stuff. I don't believe the sky has fallen, I likewise am not going to bet my life savings on TEPCO having the plant cold by year end.
by Markfm 5/18/2011 5:28:16 PM

@Ian On recriticality, It is possible, but I doubt it. The levels at SPF#4 never indicated fuel damage and the pictures don't show sig damage to racks or fuel, hence no criticality. As far as #2 goes, I don't understand the ratio thoughts enough to fully understand, but it seems to me the I and Cs could certainly be released from the RPV in different rates as a result of their physical form.
by RBeaner 5/18/2011 5:28:53 PM

@nancy thank you for the translation it makes a lot more sense now www.houseoffoust.com
by elainekirk 5/18/2011 5:29:16 PM

houseoffoust is off limits while at work -- the company must know of Nancy's subversive work :)
by Markfm 5/18/2011 5:30:06 PM

@RBeaner - How fast do you think the water level had risen after the rods were exposed????
@Panserbjorne9 - there are Combines for that purpose, heck even an old Thrashing machine will do.
by Lethbridgean 5/18/2011 5:30:49 PM

@Lethbridgean i prefer doing things by hand.
by Panserbjorne9 5/18/2011 5:31:11 PM

Given tepco is one month into their plan, I wonder what their actual work performed is compared to the plan.
by Markfm 5/18/2011 5:31:15 PM

@Lethbridgean which plant are you refering to?
by RBeaner 5/18/2011 5:32:15 PM

Cooling system temp gauge? i1097.photobucket.com
by deb via I1097.photobucket 5/18/2011 5:32:41 PM

Classic firewall. I have to use a smartkey to access various external sites. You are actually just tagged as unknown. (My job involves a huge amount of Internet research.)
by Markfm edited by Markfm 5/18/2011 5:34:01 PM

@RBeaner take your pick, but since it followed your comment on SPF4 I think it is safe to assume that I was referring to that specifically.
@Markfm- I don't think there has been any effective work done to date @Panserbjorne9 - soooo 1800's.
by Lethbridgean 5/18/2011 5:34:23 PM

Just screen shot my way through the 5/17 video released, album is here:
s1097.photobucket.com
by deb edited by elainekirk 5/18/2011 5:34:42 PM

@Markfm Your clearly not bribing your IT dept with good enough beer and baked goods. :-)
by Nancy 5/18/2011 5:35:16 PM

TEPCO's Progress status of the "Roadmap towards Restoration from the Accident at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station" (17 May, 2011): www.tepco.co.jp
by es 5/18/2011 5:36:19 PM