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@Bobby1 as TEPCO is finally into truth telling I wonderd what else might crawl out the woodwork
by UKVal 5/24/2011 5:12:33 PM

@Tenzing FOIA requests, with the full force of the blog membership behind it seem a good idea but bear in mind we're an international bunch & I'm not sure how the US Government would react to all us foreigners wanting access to US info!!
by UKVal 5/24/2011 5:14:21 PM

@UKVal I think the world is becoming a giant Third Reich.
by Bobby1 5/24/2011 5:16:26 PM

@Bobby1 certainly seems like a pretty welloiled (nuked?) machine running the show - & I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist,
by UKVal 5/24/2011 5:17:53 PM

Hi all! Been out most of the morning, anything new and significant?

Tenzig, I think we could do a FOIA, we may need to do it only on behalf of our US members or have someone do it as an individual depending on the rules. I think it is do-able. Has anyone tracked what other groups may have already obtained and what they might be sharing?
by Nancy 5/24/2011 5:18:02 PM

How appropriate this guy is heading up investigating the accident and TEPCO. If they can appoint this guy why can't they appoint some of their other very talented people to help fix the reactor mess? blogs.wsj.com
by Nancy 5/24/2011 5:19:43 PM

@Nancy at some point it might be worth knowing the nationalities (or current home countries) of our regulars - might help
by UKVal 5/24/2011 5:19:52 PM

@UKVal "The amount of cyanide coming out of the shower heads is thousands of times lower than the level of concern"
by Bobby1 5/24/2011 5:22:02 PM

As a group we should be petitioning the international governing bodies like the UN and the IAEA.
by Lethbridgean 5/24/2011 5:22:36 PM

@Lethbridgean I agree but how? I don't have the first clue how to contact the UN. Do we do so through our UN representative? Do those people even take public comment?
by Nancy 5/24/2011 5:23:37 PM

@Nancy probably first thing is to write up something and then get signatures. the more the better. once we have lots we will have more of a say- going to them saying we have 10,000 signatures of concerned people will be better than say, 1,000. start local adn work way up.
by Meretisa 5/24/2011 5:24:48 PM

@Nancy - I have no idea either. But if they are in a building then they have a front door.
by Lethbridgean 5/24/2011 5:25:00 PM

@Nancy re the person appointed to head the investigation -I hope he can up with something better than this 'Meanwhile, he concluded the biggest lesson to draw from the 1986 Chernobyl accident is that “bad things are bad,”
by UKVal 5/24/2011 5:26:10 PM

@Meretisa agreed - getting the ball rolling is the main thing. There's an address for the IAEA & we can soss out how best to approach the UN & WHO...
by UKVal 5/24/2011 5:27:55 PM

Try causes. org, that would reach out and touch someone.
by deb 5/24/2011 5:28:40 PM

@Edano petitions can snowball once people know about them
by UKVal 5/24/2011 5:28:55 PM

@UKVal what do you want to petition ? abolish nukes ? sue tepco ?
by Edano 5/24/2011 5:30:30 PM

@UKVal what do you want to petition ? abolish nukes ? sue tepco ?
by Edano 5/24/2011 5:30:35 PM

@Edano you're replicating again!! Neither - I think the consensus here is for better, independent regulatory control & inspection, & a process similar to that of the aircraft industry for learning form near misses...
by UKVal 5/24/2011 5:32:42 PM

Best would be to find an international level politician that doesn't follow the corporations agenda and give him/her the push needed. That leaves out 100% of the politicians in the US(not counting Ron Paul) and Canada. I think there is one guy in Scotland(name escapes me) that is a real rabble rouser. And I think there may be a few in Germany. Whatever the German politicians say resonates through the European union.
by Lethbridgean 5/24/2011 5:34:47 PM

@tenzing, Also add to that article you posted, Obama's new exec order that makes it mandatory that information about who you politically donated to the last 3 years to anyone wanting to do business with the government. (this is not a hoax)
by wtm 5/24/2011 5:34:59 PM

@Leth, expect some major push back from our U.S. govt on any info that would make the nuke industry look bad. GE controls one of the strings attached to our current president.
by wtm 5/24/2011 5:37:23 PM

no chance. iaea is a nuke industry puppet and areva rules europe. the germans (the ones who really mean it) are alone in this respect.
by Edano 5/24/2011 5:37:51 PM

@Lethbridgean As a group we should be petitioning the international governing bodies like the UN and the IAEA. by Lethbridgean at 10:22 AM Great idea, first we need some way to organize our community by geographic location. next choose a representative from each area to present petitions and FOIA etc. Most importantly we need to sync each petition/FOIA request with this scribblelive board.
by Tenzing 5/24/2011 5:38:45 PM

@Edano, maybe convince Al Gore to drop the "climate change" and go with the "Nuke change" ???
by wtm 5/24/2011 5:39:14 PM

@wtm perhaps we need to request information from GE? anyone here own GE Stock?
by Tenzing 5/24/2011 5:39:22 PM

@Edano true - but we can only chip away at the status quo & look to find more powerful allies. I suspect they exist. 'Evil happens when good people do nothing' we can't just sit here & moan!
by UKVal 5/24/2011 5:39:27 PM

Doesn't hurt my head, but maybe this convo belongs on the Organize page?
by Markfm 5/24/2011 5:39:45 PM

@Tenzing -we're thinking along the same lines...
by UKVal 5/24/2011 5:40:19 PM

There are environmental and worker safety laws in Japan that need to be enforced in this situation. One of our roles could be to encourage the investigation of any wrongdoing along these lines. In particular we need to encourage the Japanese Press to hold the Government responsible for such investigation and enforcement.
by billmcd 5/24/2011 5:40:27 PM

@Tenzing, Hitting GE with an FOIA requesting who were the idiots that designed the SFP storage areas, and why GE allowed them to be built ?? (and why they are still allowing them to be built ?)
by wtm 5/24/2011 5:41:03 PM

I think markfm is right this belongs on the other page -after all the title is 'Organize' However I venture in there with trepidation....
by UKVal 5/24/2011 5:42:06 PM

I contacted GE early on when they put out that PR page about BWR reactors. No response at all. GE won't fork over anything unless a court makes them. They know they are legally liable for their engineering disaster. People blew the whistle in the 70's, now the worst has been proven. I guess they are in defensive mode.
by Nancy 5/24/2011 5:42:32 PM

@UKVal Yes :) as per Markfm suggestion I'm moving to the other board, the one listed above as THINK YOU CAN HELP VISIT www.scribblelive.com
by Tenzing 5/24/2011 5:42:39 PM