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@elainekirk tyby UKVal 5/28/2011 9:21:34 AM
@UKVal I just e-mailed you to add my support. TYVMby Reed 5/28/2011 9:22:45 AM- @Reed ty -@ ALL we need lots more names to make some impact so keep reminding people when they log on - not everyone reads the pinsby UKVal 5/28/2011 9:24:03 AM
by Reed via Usno.navy.mil 5/28/2011 9:27:58 AM
@Reed this was useful- thanks. :)by Mona 5/28/2011 10:12:54 AM- @ I though still struggle ... ex with comparing the different releases in bequerel - what is that in micro/milli/Siverts...?by Mona 5/28/2011 10:12:56 AM
It seems radioactive materials are a problem all over Japan with no storage and a clamp down on ash being used for cement!! This is a translation so not very easy to understand but you can get the drift
translate.google.comby elainekirk 5/28/2011 10:32:19 AM
Batten down the hatches...
tenki.jpby Rob in SF 5/28/2011 10:32:27 AM
Nuke plant manager ignores bosses, pumps in seawater after order to halt - TEPCO's credibility came under fire again when it was revealed May 26 that the head of the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant continued pumping in seawater after company superiors issued instructions to stop.
Although the official turned out to be correct, such an important decision normally requires the president of the Tokyo Electric Power Co. to sign off on it.
Not only was there a breakdown in internal communications, but TEPCO officials have until now insisted that the seawater pumping was temporarily suspended.
At a May 26 news conference, Sakae Muto, a TEPCO executive vice president, was asked when company executives learned that Masao Yoshida, the Fukushima plant head, had gone ahead and continued pumping in seawater.
"With the pumping of seawater becoming an issue, we conducted a hearing May 24 and 25," Muto said. "Because (Yoshida) is also scheduled to be questioned by the International Atomic Energy Agency, he said he wanted to file a report based on the facts so that this can be used as an international lesson."
........ "I continued with the pumping of seawater based on the judgement that the most important thing was to continue with pumping water into the reactor core in order to prevent the spread of the accident," Yoshida reportedly said.
Yoshida told TEPCO officials he wanted to explain the facts because the issue was turning into a major problem in the media and the Diet and also because an investigative team from the IAEA had arrived in Japan.
The head of a nuclear plant has the authority to decide what measures to take when an accident takes place. On March 12, TEPCO officials sent a fax to NISA at 8:20 p.m., informing the agency of the start of pumping in of seawater.
www.asahi.com - quite a long report, worth reading in full.
by hudebnik 5/28/2011 10:46:38 AM- Doubts deepen over TEPCO truthfulness after president's sightseeing trip uncovered
TEPCO President Masataka Shimizu. (Mainichi)Suspicions that Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO) is hiding information were heightened on May 27 with revelations that its president was not where TEPCO had said he was on the day of the Great East Japan Earthquake.
TEPCO had claimed that on March 11 its President Masataka Shimizu was on a trip to meet with Kansai-area business leaders. The Mainichi discovered, however, that Shimizu was in fact sightseeing in Nara -- a discrepancy that TEPCO now refuses to discuss.
According to sources close to the matter and the Nara Prefectural Government, Shimizu, his wife and secretary checked into a hotel in the ancient capital on March 10 for a two-night stay. The trio had planned to go watch a traditional event at Todaiji temple the next day.
On the afternoon of March 11, in his role as chairman of the Federation of Electric Power Companies of Japan (FEPC), Shimizu went to "observe" the site of the Heijokyu Imperial Palace. The FEPC had sponsored the 2010 celebration of the 1,300th anniversary of the transfer of the Japanese Imperial seat to the palace.
At 2:46 p.m. the earthquake occurred. Shimizu cut short his visit to the palace site, and canceled his hotel reservation for the night plus the plans to watch the Todaiji temple event.
During the trip, there were apparently no official events that could be considered work. Instead, the main objective of Shimizu's trip appears to have been enjoying the Todaiji temple event with his wife and secretary, even though March 10 and 11 were weekdays.
TEPCO has stated that Shimizu was in the area to meet with Kansai business leaders. However, a top-level executive of the Kansai Electric Power Co. denied that Shimizu had met with anyone from the company, and leaders of other major Kansai corporations also deny having met with Shimizu.
Meanwhile, TEPCO's public relations branch has refused to comment on Shimizu's Heijokyu Imperial Palace site visit. In response to Mainichi inquiries, it would only say, "President Shimizu's schedule also involves those he was with, so we cannot publicly release it. We will neither affirm nor deny (assertions about it)."
After the earthquake, it is said that Shimizu went to Aichi Prefecture, but it has also been said that he at one point headed from Nara to Kobe Airport via taxi. He later tried to take a Self-Defense Forces transport aircraft from Komaki Air Base in Aichi Prefecture back to TEPCO headquarters in Tokyo, but the aircraft turned back on the way and he was unable to return to Tokyo that day. On the morning of March 12 he returned to Tokyo by helicopter.
At the time of the earthquake, TEPCO Chairman Tsunehisa Katsumata was also absent from Tokyo on a business trip to China.
During this time, the reactor cooling functions at the Fukushima plant ceased to function and the cores of reactors No. 1-3 melted down, bringing about the worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl.
(Mainichi Japan) May 28, 2011
mdn.mainichi.jpby hudebnik 5/28/2011 10:54:14 AM - "Tokyo Electric Power said another 36 tonnes of radioactive water had leaked from a waste disposal building that has served as a temporary storage site."
They have no clue how much water is leaking, they only know how much they pumped to the waste disposal bldg., and that 36 tonnes went bye-bye.
www.reuters.comby Rob in SF 5/28/2011 11:37:04 AM - @rob so new tactic is losing it 'we don't know how it got out' so if they dont know how stored water escaped from onland storage what about the barges floating around the oceans full of Tepco stored water ? I suppose it is safe to assume that water is also 'escaping' - quite clever really 'we don't want all this let us spread it around, nobody will know'by elainekirk 5/28/2011 11:43:56 AM
@elainekirk AFAIK they haven't transferred any rad water to barges. I don't understand why none has been transferred to the megafloat. The only barges I have heard mentioned are US Navy barges delivering fresh water.by RBeaner 5/28/2011 11:47:42 AM- Radioactive material from the fruit of plum, Fukushima Date exceeds the
reference value
www.asahi.comby elainekirk 5/28/2011 11:48:56 AM - @rbeaner that is true so why are the barges there ? in fact where are they we hear of them going to fukushima then silence.
'I suppose it is too much to hope that they were not allowed to start floating radioactive water by international pressureby elainekirk 5/28/2011 11:50:58 AM - god moring allby fitter 5/28/2011 11:52:23 AM
- correction.... good morn allby fitter 5/28/2011 11:52:52 AM
- @RBeaner @elainekirk last i heard the mega float only hold low level, and the barges that i have heard of ariving were the fresh water... rbeamer do you know if they are still using the barge water or have they been able to get the plant supply working?by fitter 5/28/2011 11:55:37 AM
- @fitter - Gopod morning.
www.urbandictionary.comby Rob in SF 5/28/2011 11:55:44 AM - @Rob in SF good moring to youby fitter 5/28/2011 11:56:20 AM
- @elainekirk The megafloat spent 2 weeks being prepared to hold radioactive liquid www.world-nuclear-news.org The size of this thing, and it will only hold 10,000 tons, and they have ~100,000 tons to deal with, gives some indication of the scope of the problem they face. It arrived at fuku on 5/21 www.abc.net.au and they are saying they are out of space for liquid. I don't understand what the problem is. Fill it before the rains hit!!by RBeaner 5/28/2011 11:58:40 AM
- @Rob in SF just having coffee, do you know if any of the tippycams are workingby fitter 5/28/2011 11:59:27 AM
@fitter - What atrocity will TEPCO unveil next?
Assuming they wait until the brunt of the typhoon...
www.emotasia.comby Rob in SF via Emotasia 5/28/2011 11:59:49 AM- @fitter last I heard, 2 navy barges were shuttling back and forth between Daini to pick up water, and Daichi to deliver water. It's possible it is pure water, not just fresh, but I never heard that stated anywhere. They have NO low level rad liquid left to store, just really hot stuffby RBeaner 5/28/2011 12:01:05 PM
- @RBeaner i was about to think the same thought, but when we get hurricanes here, the military included takes there ships (and locals) out to sea or a protective creek. so that may not be a good ideal at the momenrtby fitter 5/28/2011 12:02:28 PM
- @RBeaner - Those barges will need to stay within breakwaters soon...
tenki.jpby Rob in SF 5/28/2011 12:03:45 PM - @RBeaner that what i though about the water, did'nt know how un updated i am... mt pc is freezing up for hours at a time (i only get so msny allotted keys strckes it seems... maybe my spouce has a program so i have to get off the pc!by fitter 5/28/2011 12:04:44 PM
- What of overflow due to typhoon rains over Fukushima?by Rob in SF 5/28/2011 12:04:49 PM
- @RBeaner would make sense to process the water chemistry at Dinci, then ship... do you know what the status of the us fleet that was up there ... have they left or leaveing for safer water due to tyfoonby fitter 5/28/2011 12:06:55 PM
@fitter They can tow the float to a sheltered area. The rad liquid is a disaster quickly approaching. The water released earlier to sea and ground will be thought of as piker amount if they don't change course soon. Keep in mind, alot of what they have stored so far, is in temporary quicky tanks, and probably not very sturdy themselves..just IMHO www.flickr.com
by RBeaner via Flickr 5/28/2011 12:07:10 PM- @RBeaner i would agree.... i don't know typhoons... just cat.. and hurricances (more than i care) but i suspect if they get a close hit it will cause a lot more problems and damageby fitter 5/28/2011 12:09:12 PM
- @RBeaner has Ednordo came back or did we loose another... do you know?by fitter 5/28/2011 12:10:13 PM
- @RBeamer @ rob sf have they relaesed a manufacturer or design (paliminary) for the covers over the reator buildings?by fitter 5/28/2011 12:12:16 PM
@fitter - I suspect the Megafloat™ will likely stay in the Daichi breakwater cove...
www.tepco.co.jpby Rob in SF via Tepco.co.jp 5/28/2011 12:16:22 PM
Spraying dust inhibitor at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station(2)
www.tepco.co.jpby Rob in SF via Tepco.co.jp 5/28/2011 12:18:42 PM- @Rob in SF I am not sure that the breakers will offer enough protection from a typhoon if it is a large forceful one...by fitter 5/28/2011 12:18:48 PM
Spraying dust inhibitor at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station(3)
www.tepco.co.jpby Rob in SF via Tepco.co.jp 5/28/2011 12:19:13 PM- @Rob in SF nice pic! are they color coding them? pretty good ideal, for the safety aspect.. it will offer some.by fitter 5/28/2011 12:20:07 PM
www.tepco.co.jp
Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station, Around Unit 3by Rob in SF via Tepco.co.jp 5/28/2011 12:20:28 PM- @Rob in SF did Edano ever come back? and what ever happened to George???? is he missing in action?
@fitter George will be back soon and @Edanoby fitter edited by elainekirk 5/28/2011 12:22:18 PM - elainekirk are you out there?
for the next few minutes I have to go out soonby fitter edited by elainekirk 5/28/2011 12:25:47 PM - @fitter - I dunno. I hope Edano isn't mad over an irrelevant website name... AlbLee is on a biz trip, he's been checking in.by Rob in SF 5/28/2011 12:26:41 PM
good morning fellow nukies
good morning @dean am I ok to go out for a couple hours the tepco #1 #4 quake stats are out but in Japaneseby dean edited by elainekirk 5/28/2011 12:26:50 PM- deano!by Rob in SF 5/28/2011 12:27:12 PM
- @dean good moringby fitter 5/28/2011 12:27:16 PM
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