Japan Earthquake | Page 1411

  • well.. anything fall over or blow up over the night?
    by dean 5/28/2011 12:27:52 PM

  • yeppie.. @ elaine
    by dean 5/28/2011 12:28:51 PM

  • from Tepco it is #1 & #4 quake test results www.tepco.co.jp and www.tepco.co.jp This from the English site says the English version will take a month to prepare www.tepco.co.jp


    by elainekirk 5/28/2011 12:29:05 PM

  • @Rob in SF agree that the name is irrelevent, the process was not.. LAST SAID BY ME.. don't want to get in to the polotics, but do feel he was not treated right,,,,
    by fitter 5/28/2011 12:29:47 PM

  • @RBeaner - "what they have stored so far, is in temporary quicky tanks, and probably not very sturdy themselves." No doubt. A typhoon could screw the pooch.
    by Rob in SF 5/28/2011 12:30:43 PM

  • @dean We wouldn't know unless TEPCO told us, have not seen anything on live cam in over 24 hours now.
    by deb 5/28/2011 12:34:08 PM

  • Be careful, make sure you give credit to everything you post, because they are going after websites that "link" copyrighted material, not just the downloaders: US goes to war against digital pirates openchannel.msnbc.msn.com
    by deb 5/28/2011 12:34:25 PM

  • deb if they don't have a copyright statement etc. is it ok to use it?
    by dean 5/28/2011 12:37:58 PM

  • @deb could you please explain the post for me, as i don't understand the difference (very pc ignorant!)
    by fitter 5/28/2011 12:38:10 PM

  • TEPCO releases undisclosed data on nuclear crisis

    TOKYO, May 28, Kyodo

    Tokyo Electric Power Co. on Saturday released undisclosed data on radiation monitoring at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant when it was crippled by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami and began emitting radioactive materials.

    The highest radiation level found in the 1,509-item data was 3,699 microsieverts per hour at a building north of the No. 1 reactor at 3:55 p.m. on March 17. No case was found of the radiation level exceeding the highest published level of 11,930 microsieverts recorded on March 15.

    The release came a day after the government learned that TEPCO did not fully disclose the data on radiation monitoring at the plant and instructed it to sort the data, make it public, and make doubly sure that this would not happen again.
    english.kyodonews.jp
    by Edano 5/28/2011 12:39:00 PM

  • @deb what is the diff between wessites vs the downloaders??? if we post a link what is that
    by fitter 5/28/2011 12:39:19 PM

  • @Edano glad to see you
    by fitter 5/28/2011 12:39:30 PM

  • @fitter - Process is always relevant. Or should be.
    www.emotasia.com

    by Rob in SF via Emotasia 5/28/2011 12:43:16 PM

  • @fitter US Navy 7th fleet sorties.. www.c7f.navy.mil
    by RBeaner 5/28/2011 12:44:09 PM

  • Hola Edano.
    by Rob in SF 5/28/2011 12:44:42 PM

  • by Edano via I54.tinypic 5/28/2011 12:45:12 PM

  • by Edano via I52.tinypic 5/28/2011 12:45:12 PM

  • @deb Hmm the way I read that article they are suggesting it's illegal even to provide a link to copyrighted material. That would certainly affect posters in the US and if this is correct; <Proposed legislation in Congress would give the U.S. government the power to shut down copyright-infringing websites in other countries – even if they mainly link to copyright-protected material without permission."> it might also affect posters in other parts of the world. Although since when did Congress make the laws for other countries??
    by UKVal 5/28/2011 12:45:55 PM

  • hi to Edano... KING FOR THE DAY..
    by dean 5/28/2011 12:46:02 PM

  • hmmmm UK MAYBE we need to copyright ourselves..
    by dean 5/28/2011 12:46:53 PM

  • by Edano via I53.tinypic 5/28/2011 12:47:11 PM

  • @deb the crux of the issue is we do not seek permission from media sources before posting links here
    by UKVal 5/28/2011 12:47:29 PM

  • uummpf this pic uploading is annoying ......
    by Edano 5/28/2011 12:47:54 PM

  • @deb - Kinda true, and OT:

    There is a law firm called 'Righthaven, LLC' which is aquiring rights to articles from various media groups and then suing anyone who uses articles or photos from the papers that are part of those media groups.

    There have been blogs and web site shut down over this, Righthaven basically sues hoping for a settlement and sites that can not afford to fight in court or pay them off close down.

    Apparently Righthaven has moved in to more questionable waters recently by suing Pajamas Media directly in spite of PM having a registered DMCA Agent.
    If a site registers an Agent for contact under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) a copyright holder is required to contact that agent about removing the copyrighted image or article prior to filing suit.
    Pajamas Media has a registered Agent, as does Calguns, but Righthaven filed suit in spite of that.

    Rather than chase their own tails trying to remove selected articles from these papers many web site, again including Calguns.net now, are simply 'blacking out' these media groups and their papers/websites.
    No photos, no articles, nothing from those on the list of media groups signing on with Righthaven.


    Below link has list of newspapers by media group affiliated with Righthaven, LLC, do not post any photos or articles from these newspapers.

    www.calguns.net
    by Rob in SF 5/28/2011 12:51:13 PM

  • @dean I don't know US copyright laws but i the Uk there are exceptions made for use of a small percentage for 'educational or research purposes'. I've had to sort out copyright for stuff I've produced & I use copyrighted material a lot in my teaching
    by UKVal 5/28/2011 12:51:36 PM

  • i56.tinypic.com water level plots working by now, too

    by Edano via I56.tinypic 5/28/2011 12:51:55 PM

  • @UKVal do not understand web definations much, but since we don't sell anything or collect advertising does it have an effect here???? very confussed, can you put it in laymans terms?
    by fitter 5/28/2011 12:52:17 PM

  • @fitter THe issue is we provide links on this site to copyrighted material we find in the media & occasionally post excerpts.
    by UKVal 5/28/2011 12:53:53 PM

  • @fitter - Good point. I suspect it's dubious here, despite 'moderating', it's open posting, so the liability might fall to Scrib'd™.
    by Rob in SF 5/28/2011 12:56:04 PM

  • Thunder would like to get out of mod, thanks
    by deb 5/28/2011 12:56:43 PM

  • @Rob in SF possibly to Scribble, would depend on terms of contract - bet you there's something in there
    by UKVal 5/28/2011 12:56:55 PM

  • how bout if we call the whole site a research and list the links as references to a report .... I'm not a legal weenie
    by dean 5/28/2011 12:58:14 PM

  • IN UK when you write something for publication hassles over coypright issues are in the contract & usually the author is required to accept responsibility for any legal challenges arising
    by UKVal 5/28/2011 12:58:52 PM

  • @dean I was wondering about that. I think it might be possible under UK law, but no idea about the US
    by UKVal 5/28/2011 12:59:34 PM

  • @UKVal - Amazing how different US and UK law is, and I know little. But you gave us our foundation...
    by Rob in SF 5/28/2011 12:59:53 PM

  • @Edano I'm confused by the Kyodo article saying the highest rad levels were 11 and 3.7 milli Sievert?? Wev'e seen numerous multiple Sievert readings.
    by RBeaner 5/28/2011 1:00:26 PM

  • @UKVal what is the technical difference between "public" domain and non- public domain
    by fitter 5/28/2011 1:02:33 PM

  • @fitter @UKVal I think the important thing is that we be careful, ie when you post an article in it entirety in here, make sure the link is there or credit/copyright info. Don't download images, link them instead. As long as you give credit to the original author, you shouldn't have a problem.
    by deb 5/28/2011 1:03:30 PM

  • We really do need to get the honest, full spectrum radiological on-site date from TEPCO/NISA, (NSA/Global Hawk™).

    These guys are toying with life on earth as we know it.
    by Rob in SF 5/28/2011 1:03:50 PM

  • @Rob in SF You should go outside and play today. The radiation network says 7cpm for San Francisco, lowest I have ever seen it! Usually it is in the 20-40 range.
    by deb 5/28/2011 1:05:50 PM

  • @fitter - In the US, Public Domain is defined by Mickey Mouse™. (Seriously.)
    by Rob in SF 5/28/2011 1:06:01 PM

  • I suggest that we avoid posting anything from the papers listed in Rob' post below (they seem to be 'local US papers as far as I can tell) & with the others we avoid posting long excerpts & make sure we include the source clearly. We also need to pin a statement up top saying this blog is for research & educational purposes and no commercial or other benfits accrues to those who post or use it' - or words to that effect. Then we keep our fingers crossed!
    by UKVal 5/28/2011 1:06:13 PM

  • @deb can you explain what "public domain' means in regards to copyrited, if its on the web would it not be public
    by fitter 5/28/2011 1:06:17 PM

  • @UKVal Excellent post & idea
    by deb 5/28/2011 1:06:49 PM

  • @deb - That's just cause the cat licked that guy's rad monitor.
    by Rob in SF 5/28/2011 1:07:00 PM

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