@wrshpr I was not really entertaining the idea of being listened to... but rather posing some pointed questions formulated by others here and then listening and capturing the answers. And of course covering the protests that will inevitably be going on outside. :)
by ms in la 5/29/2011 5:52:04 AM
@Ralph Unger All that has decayed is poisoning the Northern Hemisphere. So there is no comfort, until all the reactors are stopped completely.
by deb 5/29/2011 5:53:37 AM
Yeah! Citing Fukushima, NRG Scuttles Plans for New South Texas Reactors nuclearstreet.com
by Ralph Unger 5/29/2011 5:53:49 AM
And why is 131 still being detected? Things arent cool enough, I think.
by Panserbjorne9 5/29/2011 5:54:18 AM
@deb Agree. And then 250,000 yrs after that.... :(
by ms in la 5/29/2011 5:54:59 AM
@Panserbjorne9 True, and with half lives of, oh tens of thousands of years in some cases, again no comfort for Japan or the world.
by deb 5/29/2011 5:55:09 AM
@Deb, I agree, Yep I-131 should be gone by now and I still see it at levels that are not dropping. They are very low, but it should be gone by now.
by Ralph Unger 5/29/2011 5:55:33 AM
The story here is now about the sea, how may terabequrals have been dumped into it? By my count it is at about 1000.
by Ralph Unger 5/29/2011 5:58:38 AM
That is 1000 trillion Bq, but a bq is a very small amount so it is not as bad as it might seem.
by Ralph Unger 5/29/2011 6:00:39 AM
As of 1 p.m. Sunday, typhoon was 160 km south-southwest of Kochi's Cape Muroto, expected to come closest to Shikoku, Kinki this evening.
I think Chernobyl was about 4 x 10 to the 18 th bq. So that is 100,000,000,000,000,000 vs 1.000,000,000,000 at Fukushima. Now I know why they use mathematical notations.
by Ralph Unger 5/29/2011 6:09:13 AM
Hi Bo
by deb 5/29/2011 6:09:23 AM
What the hell is up with #5?
by bo 5/29/2011 6:10:09 AM
@bo The cooling system lost power
by deb 5/29/2011 6:11:22 AM
@deb why are they still running 5 & 6 when the site is in crisis? It seems that if certain situations occurred they could have to evacuate, and then they will have two more reactors full of fuel ready to melt.
by bo 5/29/2011 6:12:45 AM
Bobby summed it up earlier, pretty well It's been a busy 24-36 hours. We have learned: 1. Reactor #5 lost cooling 2. Re-criticality in #1 3. Radioactive iodine heading for west coast 4. Large amounts of nuclear material in stratosphere 5. Plutonium detected in Matsudo, Japan...
Typhoon Songda is hitting Japan's east coast. Here's some safety information on the Embassy web site: goo.gl #amcitjp
by Veenie 5/29/2011 6:15:05 AM
@bo I've been asking questions like that for years, "why do they have to run them". Still no sane answer has come to light.
by deb 5/29/2011 6:15:07 AM
@deb, ah another Fukushima morning to wake into. Thanks for the update.
by bo 5/29/2011 6:15:11 AM
I think they should re-work the disaster scale. If this is a seven then Chernobyl should be an eight. Any dead trees near the site?
by Ralph Unger 5/29/2011 6:15:18 AM
@bo If you go back a page, I caught a minute where we had a visual on live cam, short but enough to see 3 are steaming
by deb 5/29/2011 6:16:26 AM
@Ralph Unger You seen Pravda right ? totally overgrown by weeds and trees everywhere
by Veenie 5/29/2011 6:16:39 AM
@deb ty
by bo 5/29/2011 6:16:55 AM
@All An excerpt from a post I made on the other board, included the relevant information..."On the rain....So far areas of southern Japan have had over 100mm in the last 24 hours, isolated falls up to 200mm and some areas have in fact have had 150mm or more in the last 12 hours! Finally again...JMA has all manner of warnings for every prefecture allong the southeastern sea board for heavy rain flooding inundation and gale and finally has added Fukushima with advisories for much of the same!"
I am not saying that what is happening at Fukushima is not bad, but it could have been worse.
by Ralph Unger 5/29/2011 6:22:18 AM
@bo They have to keep running the cooling till the SFP is cooled enough to remove the assemblies.
by RadioGuy 5/29/2011 6:24:31 AM
How did PU make it to Matsudo?
by bo 5/29/2011 6:24:47 AM
R3 explosion would be my guess
by RadioGuy 5/29/2011 6:25:06 AM
@RadioGuy wakarimashita (understood). But the reactor too? Is that to power the cooling to the sfp? Also, Matsudo is in Chiba, no? How could PU be blasted that far?
by bo 5/29/2011 6:26:19 AM
I think the reactor is in cold shutdown...which also takes a while to cool the assemblies...so cool shutdown maybe.
by RadioGuy 5/29/2011 6:27:08 AM
I think that is the problem , things are still happening at Fukushima, where at Chernobyl, it was just one accident. I would think that if I added up the emissions for the next year, Fukushima would surpass Chernobyl in contamination.
by Ralph Unger 5/29/2011 6:28:47 AM
OK...I need to do a quick news catchup... What's important? I have Bobby1's bullet list. What else? What's the story on the stratospheric contaminaiton?
by RadioGuy 5/29/2011 6:29:40 AM
@Ralph Unger - You're wrong. I'm sorry. 2 completely different sets of circumstances. Chernobyl didn't have the ocean as it's front lawn/dumping ground. Plus- this is ongoing.
by Maureen Burke 5/29/2011 6:31:01 AM
stratospheric contamination? DOH it all goes into the air, but I would also like a rte-posting of the link.
by Ralph Unger 5/29/2011 6:31:44 AM
@Maureen Burke Never be sorry to call me out on a point. Groundwater contamination is my greatest concern at this point.
by Ralph Unger 5/29/2011 6:33:07 AM
Groundwater contamination inland is much more of a concern then at the coast.
by Ralph Unger 5/29/2011 6:35:01 AM
But I still like my noodles to not glow in the dark.