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@Nancy : will you put the plots and radioguy's data together ? would look nice.
by Edano 5/30/2011 9:34:26 PM

@UKVal brainfart on my end. Meant Veenie
by Nancy 5/30/2011 9:34:31 PM

@Nancy phew! thought I'd lost the plot. hope you're feeling better.
by UKVal 5/30/2011 9:35:07 PM

@Edano probably on two separate pages because there just is so much but they will be done as a "set" of information so people are aware of the two and their relation.
by Nancy 5/30/2011 9:35:22 PM

@UKVal feeling more human, I think my brain is still on sick leave. :-)
by Nancy 5/30/2011 9:35:48 PM

brainfart ? learning new words.
by Edano 5/30/2011 9:36:16 PM

what about this typhoon ? cancelled, it seems ?
by Edano 5/30/2011 9:37:36 PM

@Edano Wind and lots of rain I do believe now
by Angie 5/30/2011 9:38:29 PM

@Edano last I heard it was going to have minor winds and some heavy rain unless it regenerated somehow.
by Nancy 5/30/2011 9:38:44 PM

@Nancy : bad if you lost the roof.
by Edano 5/30/2011 9:39:57 PM

As I listen to this wind and rain on the live cam, I am wondering what it is doing to all the "inhibitor" they have been spraying on the ground and buildings. Thinking all that work and money would now be a lesson in futility?
by deb 5/30/2011 9:44:33 PM

@deb Nice green tinge to the site though -much prettier
by UKVal 5/30/2011 9:48:03 PM

@Edano Done. I converted it from a post to a page and used the other template. Not perfect, as the page template has too wide a left margin, but we'll leave it till Nancy gets done with what she's doing. I put it on the Fukushima Status menu.
by radioguy 5/30/2011 9:50:45 PM

@Edano The projected winds converted over to 46 mph. Not a big deal. We don't worry about windows getting broken or losing patio furniture until 75mph
by Nancy 5/30/2011 9:59:31 PM

@radioguy : doesn't update for me. maybe wait a bit.
by Edano 5/30/2011 10:03:14 PM

well, it does not sound like news, but it is:

High radioactivity levels at No.1 reactor

The operator of the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has reported high levels of radioactive substances in water that has accumulated in the basement of its Number 1 reactor.

Tokyo Electric Power Company says a water sample taken from the reactor building's basement on Friday contained 2.5 million becquerels of radioactive cesium-134 per cubic centimeter. It also detected 2.9 million becquerels of cesium-137 and 30,000 becquerels of iodine-131.

The levels are almost the same as those already measured in contaminated water in the basement of the Number 2 reactor's turbine building.

Water contaminated with highly radioactive substances has flooded the reactor building's basement, apparently after leaking from holes created in the reactor's pressure and containment vessels in the fuel meltdown.

Under the utility's plan to bring the plant under control, a circulatory cooling system is to be installed to decontaminate radioactive water and use it as a coolant.

TEPCO says it will examine ways to decontaminate the water, as its radiation levels are too high for workers to approach.

Monday, May 30, 2011 22:25 +0900 (JST)
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by Edano 5/30/2011 10:06:03 PM

interesting detail: "apparently after leaking from holes created in the reactor's pressure and containment vessels in the fuel meltdown" tepco preparing to announce containment breach and corium out ?
by Edano 5/30/2011 10:08:19 PM

Plutonium detected in Ikata, Ehime Prefecture. This is over 500 miles from the plant. translate.google.com
by Bobby1 5/30/2011 10:09:14 PM

@edano back to the drawing board for tepco better send them crayons and colouring in books eh
by elainekirk 5/30/2011 10:09:17 PM

@bobby well I was getting sleepy but you and @edano just set bells ringing!!
by elainekirk 5/30/2011 10:09:59 PM

Radiation exceeds limit in Iitate & Namie

The science ministry says the accumulative radiation exposure level has exceeded the government limit for evacuation at two locations more than 20 kilometers from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

The ministry said on Monday that the cumulative exposure had reached 20 millisieverts in a district in the mountain village of Iitate, Fukushima Prefecture. The district is about 33 kilometers northwest of the plant.

On Sunday, the ministry said that total radiation exposure had exceeded 35 millisieverts at one location in Namie Town, 31 kilometers northwest of the plant.

Both Iitate and Namie are within the expanded evacuation zone, where residents have been asked to leave due to concerns over dangerous levels of radiation.

The ministry installed radiation monitors at 15 locations in the zone on March 23rd to check the level of cumulative exposure.

The average radiation exposure from Japan's natural environment is about one millisievert a year.

In April, the government expanded the evacuation zone around the plant to additional areas since residents there could be exposed to cumulative radiation levels of 20 millisieverts or more per year if they stay.

Some people in the area have evacuated, and the rest of the residents are being asked to leave by the end of May.

Monday, May 30, 2011 18:44 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 5/30/2011 10:10:17 PM

@elainekirk radiation never sleeps !
by Edano 5/30/2011 10:10:36 PM

angie: sorry i deleted you. please post again :(
by Edano 5/30/2011 10:11:54 PM

@Edano It is all right!!! lol The pesky delet button is in the wrong place in mod! lol I have done it many a time! And I was just being silly anyway! lol
i wanted to reply ... so sorry (it is fine lol)
by Angie 5/30/2011 10:12:56 PM

@Angie : okay you awaited the announcement for long, that's what you said.
by Edano 5/30/2011 10:14:46 PM

@Edano That is why I try to stay out of mod mode, way to easy to accidentally delete something.
by Nancy 5/30/2011 10:15:18 PM

@Edano Yes thats what I said! I have been they seem to have news story that lead up to an announcement!
by Angie 5/30/2011 10:15:34 PM

tepco is the areas leccy supplier (splurt meaning shortages) so doesnt it make sense to get some industrial units set up far away from the area and erect prefabs (both come in kit form dammit even schools can be prefabs) if they did that and got these people in a position where they could develop and thrive and their communities werent splintered ans stressed living in exac centres - and tepco can be told to foot the bill immediately , it would also mean tokyo would be less likel to suffer power shortages
by elainekirk 5/30/2011 10:15:53 PM

@Nancy : yes i'm back on the board, won't touch that delete thing again.
by Edano 5/30/2011 10:16:08 PM

Ok I have to do the school run...........lets hope I dont get stopped by the police...........while I am wearing bright pck Pj's!!! back in 15 mins!
by Angie 5/30/2011 10:17:17 PM

@Bobby1 have we figured out a way to tell if plutonium is from old bombs or weapons tests vs. new from the reactors? If that is from fuku that far away that is frightening.
by Nancy 5/30/2011 10:17:24 PM

@elainekirk -agreed - It's the only thing they could do that would make a real difference. However it probably means buying up a lot of farmland & would be very unpopular with the locals in residence already
by UKVal 5/30/2011 10:17:26 PM

@Nancy : i still suspect groundwater contamination. from the wells onto the soil by agriculture.
by Edano 5/30/2011 10:19:03 PM

tepco seeems on the way to announce containment breaches.
by Edano 5/30/2011 10:19:43 PM

@Edano for the plutonium?
by Nancy 5/30/2011 10:20:18 PM

@Nancy : yep, i am a fearmongerer.
by Edano 5/30/2011 10:20:45 PM

@Nancy Not sure. It could have come from another nuclear plant also, I don't know if they could tell. It also said the sample was collected April 12.
by Bobby1 5/30/2011 10:20:55 PM

If there is plutonium all over the place from the bomb tests, it would be much worse in the US.
by Bobby1 5/30/2011 10:22:17 PM

Internal exposure concerns

Japan's Nuclear Safety Commission has expressed concerns about internal radiation exposure for workers at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

High levels of radioactive substances have been detected in the bodies of 2 workers at the plant.

After a meeting on Monday, commission member Shizuyo Kusumi told reporters that the organization had concerns about whether protective masks can fully protect workers from internal exposure.

She added that the commission would study the two cases based on data to be sent from the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency.

Another member, Osamu Oyamada, noted the need for comprehensive management of the work environment, saying a better environment should be in place before the summer.

He also said consideration should be given to the effects of the summer heat on workers' health, while keeping radiation exposure to a minimum.

Monday, May 30, 2011 18:44 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 5/30/2011 10:23:06 PM

i think they face a sneaking contamination, every day higher readings and more far from the plant. and this will not be stopped until they enclose the corium.
by Edano 5/30/2011 10:25:15 PM

@Bobby1 : they can tell by analyzing the radionuclids and their half lives. it is analog to the carbon16 method to determine the age of organic material.
by Edano 5/30/2011 10:27:45 PM

did you know that we actually have 15 deaths in germany by food contamination ? they say it could be raw cucumbers, tomatoes or salad.
by Edano 5/30/2011 10:30:27 PM

the bacteria is EHEC. e. coli, very aggressive.
by Edano 5/30/2011 10:31:09 PM

@Nancy, please look at the TEPCO 7:00 am cam pic. looks like major smoke coming from the top of the tower on the right side, the foremost tower. Could they be doing major dumping during this storm, to have the storm cover it up?
by wtm 5/30/2011 10:31:13 PM

@Edano The half-lives are very long, and any decay products would be minute. Though someone should have data on plutonium distribution from bomb tests, and Hiroshima & Nagasaki.
by Bobby1 5/30/2011 10:33:10 PM