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  • @edano it is such good news I saw a pic earlier of a road in Reykjavik (Iceland) they keep them clear of snow /ice by running geothermal pipes under them , Japan must have an abundance of geothermal yet they build nukes and line their streets with vending machines mad mad world
    by elainekirk 6/4/2011 12:53:02 AM

  • @elainekirk : the japanese people and their government are firmly in the hands of the nuke industry.
    by Edano 6/4/2011 12:55:11 AM

  • @peter @edano strange world people do not like politicians but would follow their instructions 'for their own good' over the advice of a specialist I reckon
    by elainekirk 6/4/2011 12:56:45 AM

  • @you, I must amend Goering did not phrase the idea quite like I did. He answered after being asked in an interview what secrets the Nazis used to get the German people on their side: "The masses are brainless. You just fill their heads with fear and promise them security, and they shall eat from your hands!"
    by Peter Melzer 6/4/2011 12:59:07 AM

  • @Peter Melzer : with greetings to homeland security.
    by Edano 6/4/2011 12:59:50 AM

  • tepco publishes very text intensive annual accounts/report and I was reading one and it said they were aiming for a large slice of the dairy products market because then they would have a stake in ever essential service i.e could hold the country to ransom.
    @peter and he was right !!
    by elainekirk 6/4/2011 1:01:31 AM

  • @Edano , iwas reminded of the co-opting quite a bit in the past decade.
    by Peter Melzer 6/4/2011 1:01:39 AM

  • I must head for my bed gentlemen thankyou for the great convo - till tomoro g'night
    by elainekirk 6/4/2011 1:05:08 AM

  • @elainekirk , good night elaine! It must be the first light of day soon where you live.
    by Peter Melzer 6/4/2011 1:07:54 AM

  • I must cite another long passage on the implementation of hardened vents. This is quoted from a petition filed with the NRC by BeyondNuclear on April 13 ( www.google.com ):
    “B. Of the twenty one (21) GE BWR Mark l with the free standing steel primary containment a number of the units currently rely upon a “hardened vent system” also known as the Direct Torus Vent System (DTVS) where the control room can now deliberately vent the recognized undersized and vulnerable Mark I pressure suppression containment temporarily under severe accident conditions in order to prevent the containment from over-pressurizing and/or internally venting explosive environments that would likely cause the permanent rupture and breach of containment and result in a sustained uncontrolled release of significant amounts of harmful radioactivity. These back fits were pre-approved by NRC Generic Letter 89-16 “Installation of Hardened Wetwell Vent System,” September 1, 1989.
    The NRC staff pre-approval was provided as incentive to the Mark I operators to voluntarily install “hardened vent systems” also known as the Direct Torus Vent System (DTVS) to the pressure suppression pool component also known as the “torus.” The DTVS is an 8-inch hardened steel line that runs from the Mark I suppression pool chamber or torus, bypasses the BWR charcoal bed radiation filtration system and connects directly to the three hundred (300) foot tall off gas ventilation stack. The DTVS design to bypass the radiation filtration system is essential to reduce back pressure on release through the experimental pipe system. The control room operates a butterfly valve in the pipe in conjunction with a 30 psi carbon rupture disc designed given the operator an option to temporarily defeat containment in order to assure long term containment integrity. It is the understanding of the Petitioner that a certain number of nuclear power plants operators may have installed the DTVS but subsequently either abandoned it or removed it while some number of operators did not follow-through with the installation of these hardened vents for on their containments. A complete and transparent review is necessary to determine which and why operators did and did not experiment with the hardened vent systems to mitigate potential severe accident consequences in Mark 1 containment systems.”

    If true, this is frightening!
    by Peter Melzer 6/4/2011 1:35:58 AM

  • Good afternoon every one!
    by Angie 6/4/2011 1:53:22 AM

  • Hi Angie!
    by LM 6/4/2011 1:57:44 AM

  • If Hamaoka is potentially deadly, what about all the other nuclear reactors? www.japantoday.com
    by LM 6/4/2011 1:58:17 AM

  • @LM Hi! did I miss anything in the last 11hrs??
    by Angie 6/4/2011 1:58:36 AM

  • @Angie To be honest I haven't been around as much. There has been a bit of seismic activity...2 more quakes over 5.0 and a few 4.somethings. Regular smoke activity from plants but largely obscured by fog.
    by LM 6/4/2011 2:02:15 AM

  • @LM Thank you! So mostly the same sort of thing then. Hmmm I hope these over 5 eq's are letting stress out and not building for a bigger one............
    by Angie 6/4/2011 2:06:31 AM

  • @Angie I hope so too...have my fingers crossed...although one of them was down near Hiroshima under Honshu..we're seeing some other shifting for sure. Contaminated water and it's potential overflow is the issue again today..as it will be for a very long time.
    by LM 6/4/2011 2:09:54 AM

  • @LM I agree the water is a massive issue at the moment...........
    by Angie 6/4/2011 2:16:12 AM

  • GE sees the need to defend its design: www.gereports.com . Are they afraid of something?
    by Peter Melzer 6/4/2011 2:38:03 AM

  • Gov't failed to release some radiation projections

    The Japanese science ministry has admitted failing to release some of its projections of how radioactive substances would spread if they leaked from the Fukushima Daini nuclear power plant.

    The science ministry used a computer system called SPEEDI to calculate how radiation would spread depending on the weather and terrain.

    It said on Friday that it had failed to release 37 projections for the Fukushima Daini plant. It made the projections once an hour from 6PM on March 11 to 9AM on March 13.


    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Angie 6/4/2011 2:39:58 AM

  • if we have this already just let me know......
    by Angie 6/4/2011 2:40:20 AM

  • Friends of the Earth Challenges New AP1000 Nuclear Reactor Design
    This reactor is the first new design in decades being considered for construction in the U.S. Though questions linger about the design’s safety, and even though the NRC has not conducted additional analysis in the wake of the Fukushima disaster in Japan, the NRC is sticking with an industry-backed fast-track licensing approach.
    Nuclear engineer Arnie Gundersen and the staff of Fairewinds Associates analyzed the design of the AP1000 reactor and found many aspects lacking, as cataloged in the comments formally submitted to the NRC by Friends of the Earth. The comments state that claims made about the safety of the reactor’s containment structure “are not based upon sound scientific analysis and engineering review, but appear instead to be based upon the mythical dreaming of an aggressive industry and its captive regulator.”
    According to the comments authored by Gundersen and Fairewinds, the passive cooling system of the AP1000, which lacks a robust containment shell, merits close scrutiny. The cooling of the 1.75-inch steel containment shell is dependent upon a vulnerable 800,000-gallon tank precariously perched on top of a vented “shield building,” a structure whose integrity has been questioned by even the lead NRC engineer in the design review. Fairewinds states: “This single source of cooling water perched atop the shield building is unique to the AP1000 design and Westinghouse’s reliance upon it creates a single point of vulnerability that has not been thoroughly evaluated by industry regulator NRC due to the rush to AP1000 certification and licensure.”
    More: www.enewspf.com
    by joniver 6/4/2011 2:43:21 AM

  • Row escalates over timing of Kan's resignation A spat escalated within the ruling Democratic Party of Japan a day after Prime Minister Naoto Kan intimated he would not resign until the situation at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant comes under control, predicted to be sometime in January.

    www.asahi.com
    by Angie 6/4/2011 2:56:23 AM

  • Clip from camera guy's pan today

    by deb 6/4/2011 2:57:40 AM

  • Thank you @Deb you have done such great work on the videos!
    by Angie 6/4/2011 2:59:26 AM

  • …and I quote from Sherrell. R. Greene's report with the title "Role of BWR Secondary Containments in Severe Accident Mitigation" last modified Mar. 23, 2011 ( www.sumofallfears.com ):
    “One potential solution to the problems associated with use of existing containment venting systems is the installation of hardened filtered venting systems, such as the FILTRA system in use at the Barseback BWR plant in Sweden. While the Long Island Lighting Company had intended to install a similar filtered vent system at the Shoreham Plant, such systems have traditionally been viewed by U.S. utilities as having unacceptably low cost/benefit ratios.”
    by Peter Melzer 6/4/2011 3:00:13 AM

  • NEWS ADVISORY: 4,000 millisievert radiation per hour detected at No. 1 reactor (11.51) Kyodo english.kyodonews.jp
    by jt 6/4/2011 3:09:49 AM

  • Evening all. So did anyone decide if that was Fukushima Di Ini?
    by carabnr 6/4/2011 3:10:07 AM

  • More GE defense, this time on hardened vents (they claim they do not know how this system was implemented in the Fukushima reactors): www.gereports.com
    by Peter Melzer 6/4/2011 3:33:15 AM

  • @all Good Morning...Good Evening...Hello!
    by smoss 6/4/2011 3:38:09 AM

  • @all There is a small flap going on among various entities in Japan over cylinder liner failures in some EDG's. One at the fast breeder Monju plant has been found with failed liners, and investigation has shown that liners of certain original vintage (made Feb '87 through May '89) may have excessive lead content and thus be weak... although a note was made about jacking the liners without adequate monitoring leading to excessive forcing. As far as TEPCO is concerned, only Fukushima Daini No. 2 and No. 4 plants have similar diesels with similar liners, so that the problem appears not to be wide spread.

    atomicpowerreview.blogspot.com
    by smoss 6/4/2011 3:43:13 AM

  • @all Press Release (Jun 03,2011)
    Receipt of instruction documents with regard to the check considering the damage found in cylinder liners of emergency diesel generators of "Monju", a fast-breeder reactor, of Japan Atomic Energy Agency (independent administrative institution) www.tepco.co.jp
    by smoss 6/4/2011 3:44:41 AM

  • I can't imagine the water that is so close to overflowing did very well in the last several EQs... I'm picturing sloshing out going on.
    by Panserbjorne9 6/4/2011 3:49:04 AM

  • 4000 No. 1 mSv per hour at the reactor building
    Date 06 April 2011 11:33]
    Email article to introducePrint
    MSv of measuring the amount of high radiation up to 4,000 per hour in a nuclear reactor building of Unit 1 of Fukushima. TEPCO. www.oita-press.co.jp
    by jt 6/4/2011 3:49:37 AM

  • @jt I wish we could know is this inside, outside, which part of the building, etc. That's usually a fatal dose.
    by Panserbjorne9 6/4/2011 3:52:45 AM

  • Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant reactor No. 4 000 1 mSv per hour - Maachang Diary - [ Translate this page ]
    June 4, 2011 ... 4,000 per hour in reactor No. 1 mSv 2011/6/4 11:33 . mSv of high radiation up to 4,000 per hour in a nuclear reactor building of Unit 1 Hukuzima measure the amount. TEPCO....
    d.hatena.ne.jp/maachang/20110604/1307158541
    by jt 6/4/2011 3:53:25 AM

  • Remeber that radioactive gas leak and coolant problem at the Tsuruga Nuclear Power Plant in early May? I hadn't seen anything further about it until this, maybe others were aware, but I'm sure everyone is relived to know they didn't do anything wrong by not replacing or inspecting anything since 1987, because the government standards didn't require them to inspect or replace anything. "Japan Atomic Power had not inspected or replaced the pipes in the No. 2 reactor facility since its operation began in 1987, company officials said. But they added that technical standards approved by the government did not require that the pipes be inspected." mdn.mainichi.jp
    by Mart 6/4/2011 4:00:24 AM

  • And if you don't get to the story linked below, the brief summary is they found 33 pinhole leaks in the piping and also some bad seals etc, which led to the escape of radioactive gas into the plant and into the atmosphere. This might have happened because they hadn't inspected the piping or the connections since 1987... As in, 1987.
    by Mart 6/4/2011 4:03:52 AM

  • @all Unit 1, TEPCO three days around the reactor was examined by the robot, unveiled that it has found that the steam spouting from the floor seams and piping. 周辺では1時間あたり2000から4000ミリシーベルトという極めて高い放射線量が計測されたということです。 Around is that the extremely high radiation doses are measured 4000-2000 mSv per hour. translate.google.com
    by smoss 6/4/2011 4:04:06 AM

  • Kyodo English had the news advisory and and it is no longer there. I did a search on the Japanese version of the news advisory in Chrome.
    by jt 6/4/2011 4:05:34 AM

  • by smoss 6/4/2011 4:08:05 AM

  • @jt Kyodo lists as Latest News: Fukushima's No. 1 reactor building radiation up to 4,000 millisieverts
    english.kyodonews.jp
    by smoss 6/4/2011 4:12:34 AM

  • @Mart Kyodo echos your link as well: Radioactive gas leak at Tsuruga nuclear plant caused by holes in piping english.kyodonews.jp
    by smoss 6/4/2011 4:15:11 AM

  • @all Bye for now
    by smoss 6/4/2011 4:16:38 AM

  • Is anyone watching Teppycam on R1? you post an image? I can only get TBS cam. Thanks.
    by jt 6/4/2011 4:20:48 AM

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