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@elainekirk - Sure sounds messy. Now I wonder which filter collected too much cesium --
"Tokyo Electric Power Company put the system into full operation on Friday night, but had to halt it 5 hours later as the radiation level of a cesium absorption device rose higher than expected.
The device is also designed to remove oil and technetium.
TEPCO says it may have absorbed larger-than-expected amounts of radioactive materials along with oil. The utility is now working on measures to solve the issue."
www3.nhk.or.jpby Diane_NJ 6/19/2011 12:05:48 AM
Zeolite is used in kitty litter so it would likely absorb oil. Kitty litter is common to use to soak up oil spills on concrete.by lillymunster 6/19/2011 12:10:04 AM
@diane now if i had something mixed in water and added oil shook it up and then tried to filter it ...by elainekirk 6/19/2011 12:10:56 AM- @nancy and if kitty litter is oily can it still absorb cesiumby elainekirk 6/19/2011 12:11:33 AM
- @Lurking I watched that special on NHK - it's very good.by Diane_NJ 6/19/2011 12:11:40 AM
- @nancy @diane or are we seeing the oil attract the cesium and then ... oh I think i better pput kettle onby elainekirk 6/19/2011 12:12:26 AM
- @elainekirk @nancy - I agree. Time for a cup of java!by Diane_NJ 6/19/2011 12:13:32 AM
i prefer ceylon asssam.by Edano 6/19/2011 12:16:16 AM- @edano I have earl greyby elainekirk 6/19/2011 12:18:44 AM
Workers busy on Tepcam...by es 6/19/2011 12:19:14 AM- @elainekirk typical english breakfast tea ... :)by Edano 6/19/2011 12:19:55 AM
@elainekirk @Edano Kurion absorption towers details api.viglink.com and api.viglink.com Yesterday they started only two. And both of them are having the unexpected high radiation trouble. 4.7 mSv/h was measured on line No. 1 and 3.9 mSV/h on line No. 3. (No.2 and No.4 were unused).
The absorption towers displaying these radiation levels are the oil and technetium removing towers, at the entrance of the system. Three possibilities were mentioned during the NISA's press conference on June 18th ( www.ustream.tv ) :
* To do without the oil and technetium absorption tower (starting directly with the cesium removal towers) ;
* Use of silica sand to filter oil
* Changing the location of the radiation sensor
The first two will be tested on June 18th and 19th, using different solutions on each line and making comparisons. From Physics forum www.physicsforums.com
by RBeaner 6/18/2011 6:56:55 PM at 2:56 PMby RBeaner 6/19/2011 12:20:19 AM- @lillymunster @elainekirk I've grown plants in kitty litter! Succulents love it. But there are different grades - I haven't explored, and cannot explain, the technicalities but in some the clay seems more fired than in the others which often dissolve to mud/sludge over time. I've also heard of garages using kitty litter to clean up oil spillages, and that it can be cheaper to buy the bags from the supermarket than get deliveries by the truckload!by es 6/19/2011 12:32:01 AM
@all Good Morning...Good Evening...Hello!by smoss 6/19/2011 12:37:44 AM- @smoss Hi = we're having coffee/tea break & watching Tepcamby Diane_NJ 6/19/2011 12:39:50 AM
- guys walking around #1 on teppycamby M.I.A. 6/19/2011 12:39:53 AM
- @MIA @ Diane_NJ I saw that too...hand signals?by smoss 6/19/2011 12:41:56 AM
- @smoss so it seemed...by M.I.A. 6/19/2011 12:42:31 AM
- Must be difficult talking through the masks.by Diane_NJ 6/19/2011 12:43:46 AM
- the teppycan says that cam will be down 9-11 and yet it is still running does this mean the planned electrical improvement are a goner too?by elainekirk 6/19/2011 12:44:25 AM
- @elainekirk You read my mind...or is this prep for work that they don't want going out live stream (hence planned electrical improvement)by smoss 6/19/2011 12:46:15 AM
- Guy is messing with a hose or a cable and the picture kept flashingby lillymunster 6/19/2011 12:46:16 AM
- other guys are carrying what look to be swab sample bags.by M.I.A. 6/19/2011 12:47:30 AM
I found another historical nugget. This one is on improvement of rad monitoring of releases into the air. The NRC found out that the stack monitors at TMI were overwhelmed by the releases of radioactivity during the accident. Therefore, nobody was ever going to find out precisely how much went through the stack. This document makes suggestions: docs.google.com I hope the operators fixed this problem.by Peter Melzer 6/19/2011 12:48:16 AM- noticed on the 'yellow water' vid that the techs did not notate where the swab samples they took exact location
in the unit- not SOPby M.I.A. 6/19/2011 12:48:56 AM - @smoss do you think it will go down and then come back with #1 in her wedding dress?by elainekirk 6/19/2011 12:51:10 AM
- @M.I.A. , the way this is done is that you take a map of the floor with you on which you mark the sampling location and identify the sample with a code.by Peter Melzer 6/19/2011 12:51:27 AM
- @Peter Melzer which it didn't appear they did, tho. didn't mark the samples, at least, not that I sawby M.I.A. 6/19/2011 12:53:10 AM
- @elainekirk Then there's #3...always the bridemaid, never the brideby smoss 6/19/2011 12:53:35 AM
- @M.I.A. , should have said "supposed to be done", ;)by Peter Melzer 6/19/2011 12:58:49 AM
- @Peter Melzer Should be the middle name of TEPCO execs, alternating with '
supposedby M.I.A. 6/19/2011 1:00:11 AM - "to care" (oops- return keyitis) :)by M.I.A. 6/19/2011 1:00:41 AM
- TEPCO cam shut off.by estacion 6/19/2011 1:02:37 AM
- @estacion Yepby M.I.A. 6/19/2011 1:03:11 AM
- as planned for cam, if I have my time zone right?by M.I.A. 6/19/2011 1:04:20 AM
- @M.I.A. I think it's just after 10am JSTby Diane_NJ 6/19/2011 1:05:32 AM
- Yes, they've said between 9:00 to 11:00. Shut of was at 10:00. Very centered. :))by estacion 6/19/2011 1:06:07 AM
- big crane visible over #1 on tbs camby M.I.A. 6/19/2011 1:07:24 AM
- Oh, white/red crane moving behind #1 reactor.by estacion 6/19/2011 1:07:32 AM
- one behind #2, alsoby M.I.A. 6/19/2011 1:10:10 AM
- so did they say when the teppycam would be turned on? Maybe after they jerk the fuel rods out of the units and toss them into the sea?by M.I.A. 6/19/2011 1:11:55 AM
- @smoss is that what is known as 'predictive text'by elainekirk 6/19/2011 1:12:04 AM
- @elainekirk :-)by smoss 6/19/2011 1:13:21 AM
- @M.I.A. Once they'll do it, another tsunami will come and toss over Daiichi again...in genuine TEPCO style. :))by estacion 6/19/2011 1:16:03 AM
- There is still a Tepcam feed... I'm watching [http://mfile.akamai.com/127380/live/reflector:51361.asx?bkup=52045&prop=a] in a standalone player.by es 6/19/2011 1:21:37 AM
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