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  • @lillymunster @Edano :(
    by elainekirk 7/19/2011 12:05:28 PM

  • Dean got my curiosity up about what fell through the turbine building's roof. The hole is big enough to be the containment cap.
    by lillymunster 7/19/2011 12:09:31 PM

  • @lillymunster : hehe, we had that before !
    by Edano 7/19/2011 12:11:30 PM

  • Someone knows what fell through the roof
    by lillymunster 7/19/2011 12:13:32 PM

  • @lillymunster : maybe someone will twitter it ? ;)
    by Edano 7/19/2011 12:15:04 PM

  • Greenpeace is calling BS on the "everything is great - go home" nonsense.
    www.greenpeace.org

    @Edano, I am going to start asking around some of my contacts. :-)
    by lillymunster 7/19/2011 12:17:46 PM

  • we have to conclude that japan is following a complete different policy than chernobyl. they seem to be not willing to accept no entry zones they rather accept a widespread contamination and to live with radioactivity than to give up land. and it's up to the society to accept this policy or not.
    by Edano 7/19/2011 12:24:52 PM

  • @Edano it will take a huge effort to give people other options. The economic development camp of businesses, the central govt etc. want to ignore the reality that that section of land is not livable anymore and should be abandoned. The reality of moving people and businesses is huge. They (the central govt) assumed the potential risk when they built nuclear reactors on such a densely populated small area of land. Now they are trying to avoid responsibility.
    by lillymunster 7/19/2011 12:29:57 PM

  • @lillymunster : at this point i am quite frustrated with japanese society. if they accept the game and participate in it, so let it be. they played the nuclear game without protests and they are able to inform themselves. if they still believe in a godlike company called tepco, what can you do ?
    by Edano 7/19/2011 12:34:42 PM

  • @all, I would like to finish up this article and get it posted today or tomorrow if possible. This is the "how to protect yourself" article. I have a few things to add today based on feedback. If you have a chance to read it please let me know if something should be added or changed or if you think it is ok as is. Leave a note in comments or post here. wp.me
    by lillymunster 7/19/2011 12:34:51 PM

  • @Edano nuclear power was not without protest all along the years. It is much like the US. A handful protest and understand the real impact potential. The rest are too busy watching TV or otherwise amusing themselves to pay attention. TEPCO has over an 80% "don't trust" rating in a poll done last month. The govt. isn't trusted much either. Kan talked about doing a snap election to try to purge the nuclear industry lapdogs out of the national assembly. Once things finally hit critical mass in the country he would be smart to do so. I think at that point the outrage may be enough to make a critical change.
    by lillymunster 7/19/2011 12:37:38 PM

  • Govt renews Fukushima plant stabilization plan

    The Japanese government has announced new stages of a plan to bring the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant under control.

    The announcement came at a meeting of the government's nuclear disaster taskforce attended by all Cabinet ministers on Tuesday evening.

    The taskforce said the first stage of the plan outlined in mid-April for the stable cooling of the reactors has been completed on schedule by mid-July. It added radiation levels in the plant's surrounding areas have been steadily reduced.

    The meeting approved a renewed plan, including the second stage to be completed by next January, and mid-term targets to be achieved within about three years after that.

    Under the renewed plan, the government will carry out regular health checks for about 30 years on residents in Fukushima Prefecture, where the plant is located. The checks will include thyroid cancer screening tests for children, the estimate survey of external exposure, and the measurement of internal exposure.

    The government will also start a safety assessment of radiation levels in the evacuation advisory zone around the plant, in an aim to lift the advisories currently in place there.

    As for the evacuation zone and the 20-kilometer no-entry zone, the government will start monitoring radiation levels earlier than planned. The government will start lifting its evacuation orders for areas where safety has been confirmed, after the plan's second stage is achieved by next January.

    Also on Tuesday, the government and Tokyo Electric Company formally announced that the target of the first stage to steadily reduce radiation levels from the plant has been achieved, according to a joint assessment.

    The assessment said the radiation level from the turbine buildings of the plant's reactors has been reduced to 1 two-millionth of what it was just after the nuclear accident in March.

    In the second stage of the plan for the cold shutdown of the reactors, TEPCO plans to improve its systems to decontaminate wastewater and to cool reactors and fuel rod pools at the plant.

    The government and the utility will have to face tough challenges, as the decontamination system has been developing one problem after another and the plant's reactor buildings have been seriously damaged.

    Tuesday, July 19, 2011 20:44 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 7/19/2011 12:42:23 PM

  • From twitter, I think this is saying most fish is showing contaminated? nagazono 长薗安浩
    by yu_miri_0622
    Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and announced that contamination of food surveys in all prefectures. On the other hand was good and I belatedly, is radioactive, "" National finally has spread the risk to "public" and acknowledging that, and realize the weight of irreparable harm due to renewed nuclear accident. In the vast, semi-permanent contamination followed.
    by lillymunster 7/19/2011 12:43:48 PM

  • @Edano "The taskforce said the first stage of the plan outlined in mid-April for the stable cooling of the reactors has been completed on schedule by mid-July." Stable cooling on reactors in which fuel has already melted through?
    "The government will start lifting its evacuation orders for areas where safety has been confirmed, after the plan's second stage is achieved by next January." The cesium is just gonna go away? LIARS.
    by Bobby1 7/19/2011 12:50:08 PM

  • points of progress www.tepco.co.jp
    update on progress with photos www.tepco.co.jp
    Roadmap progress www.tepco.co.jp
    current evaluation (guesswork) on emmissions www.tepco.co.jp
    progress stated by countermeasures www.tepco.co.jp
    by elainekirk 7/19/2011 12:50:58 PM

  • workers are tweeting that nobody knows where the fuel is or if it is having recriticality ongoing. Also still releasing radiation out of the plant.
    by lillymunster 7/19/2011 12:51:02 PM

  • @lillymunster there is scattered fuel too it has been mentioned too often to be rumour
    by elainekirk 7/19/2011 12:51:49 PM

  • Japan Government Realizes Faster Kan Leaves The Quicker Nuclear Power Production Can Resume . Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan has made life difficult for the Nuclear Industry and many members of the Japanese Government because of his recent comments and public stance on nuclear power. However, try as he might to avoid it, the Prime Minister will be forced to step down with no successor in line to keep Japan's future energy nuclear free. No politician considered a possible successor is taking up Kan's call to decommission all of Japan's nuclear reactors. In fact, almost all prominent Cabinet ministers and executives of the ruling Democratic Party of Japan who have supported Kan appear reluctant to go along with his nuclear-free idea. news.lucaswhitefieldhixson.com
    by Majj 7/19/2011 12:51:55 PM

  • @Majj : without kan, nothing will change.
    by Edano 7/19/2011 12:53:43 PM

  • by Majj 7/19/2011 12:54:50 PM

  • @Majj Majj I sometimes wonder if that site is a very subtle propoganda machines they have a way of putting things over that give people no incentive to fight and yet they very clevelrly aim the site to appeal to the layperson and to appear to them to be a source of great knowledge.
    I have seen too many variations of propoganda sites to believe that this is anything but another one re lucaswhitfield
    by elainekirk 7/19/2011 12:56:28 PM

  • @Edano Kan is playing poker. Support ant-nuke is the only thing he can do to save his career as politician. The change will come by the Japanese people and he is betting on it to save his career . @elainekirk I agree with you
    by Majj 7/19/2011 1:00:58 PM

  • out for awhile can people keep the organise board going please and post them weather updates
    by elainekirk 7/19/2011 1:04:09 PM

  • @Majj : kan has the support of only 19% of the population.
    by Edano 7/19/2011 1:05:03 PM

  • can do elaine, will be around for a bit working on web articles etc.
    by lillymunster 7/19/2011 1:09:57 PM

  • @Edano Yes but do you know any other big Politician against Nuclear Power? I think he is alone. Is a desperate attempt the stay in Power. I believe that any one talking against nuclear power is helping.
    by Majj 7/19/2011 1:10:20 PM

  • Kan wants to move people back into the evacuation zones. He refused to release SPEEDI projections, and consequently cars were stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic as the plume went over them. His government has dissembled more than Tepco has, and has allowed contaminated beef to be sold across the country.
    by Bobby1 7/19/2011 1:11:56 PM

  • Heads up possible presser tomorrow (sketchy tip, though) ...

    Rough translation from the Nihongo: Tomorrow, the International Commission on Radiological Protection (ICRP) and the differing positions, the Commission has focused on radiation risks under internal 曝 (ECRR) radionuclide analysis of dust collected independently by Dr. Kurisubazubi of and published after the accident, you go to a press conference to report on and impressions that exchanges first citizens of Fukushima.

    Original From twitter about 40 minutes ago:
    onoring 尾上泰夫@DreamCraft
    明日、国際放射線防護委員会(ICRP)と立場を異にし、内部被​曝を重視している放射線リスク欧州委員会(ECRR)のクリス・​バズビー博士が独自に採取したチリの放射線核種分析結果の公表と、事故後、初めて福島の市民と交流した感想などについて報告する記者​会見に行ってきます。
    by alblee 7/19/2011 1:12:15 PM

  • @Majj : yes, he is alone, and i think there is no anti nuke majority in the population. so it is probable that nothing will change.
    by Edano 7/19/2011 1:14:09 PM

  • The process has already started: the nuclear power company will loose. More and more the Japanese will see that the country is cover by radiation , that the kids are getting seek. Kan more then any one else know that. Saturday, July 16, 2011 Fukushima to scrap nuclear plants
    Prefecture vows to shift from atomic to renewable energy
    Kyodo FUKUSHIMA — Fukushima Prefecture vowed to shift away from nuclear power plants in its vision compiled Friday for reconstruction after the March 11 quake and tsunami.
    The about-face came after Prime Minister Naoto Kan's declaration Wednesday of pursuing a society free from dependence on nuclear energy and is expected to affect the policies of other prefectures that host atomic plants.
    Fukushima may be the first prefecture with nuclear plants to vow to eliminate them, an official at the Natural Resources and Energy Agency said.
    by Majj 7/19/2011 1:16:22 PM

  • You can hide numbers , but when the hospitals start to pile up and half of the people don't show up to work or to the school, the Japanese will change the mind.
    by Majj 7/19/2011 1:19:20 PM

  • off twitter from rockhopper: Very important: TEPCO/gov announced today that the current amount of radioactive chemicals spewing from the #Fukushima is 1 billion Bq/hour.
    by lillymunster 7/19/2011 1:26:54 PM

  • Bl has done an article that says the same the link should be easy to access on organise I can't grab it on phone not techies enough that's me not phone
    by elainekirk 7/19/2011 1:36:05 PM

  • Bo not bi lol
    by elainekirk 7/19/2011 1:36:46 PM

  • Typhoon may spare Fukushima "Typhoon Ma-on slowed Tuesday as it approached southwestern Japan and was forecast to pass south of Tokyo on Wednesday night on a track that would take it away from the crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant." search.japantimes.co.jp

    [Thanks, @Ralph Unger. The news report could have mentioned that the eye of the typhoon doesn't have to pass directly through Ground Zero to inflict potentially great collateral environmental hazard (through churning wind and rain) on a wide swath of area in and around Ground Zero (especially to the north and northwest), heh heh. - Alblee]
    .
    by Ralph Unger edited by alblee 7/19/2011 1:38:56 PM

  • www.nemoc.navy.mil According to catastrophe modelling firm AIR Worldwide, with winds gusting to 157 kilometres per hour (98 miles per hour), Category 2 Typhoon Ma-On (local name “Ineng”) has passed Minami Daito Island and is moving at about 19 kph (12 mph) toward the north. Currently about 885 kilometres (550 miles) southwest of Tokyo, Ma-On is expected to stay at its current intensity for the next 24 hours and make landfall on Shikoku Island Tuesday morning local time. Ma-On is a large storm with typhoon force winds extending outward up to 80 kilometres (50 miles) from its centre, while tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 360 (225 miles) kilometres. Severe weather warnings are in effect for Kyushu, Shikoku, and Tokai regions.
    “Earlier forecasts put Ma-On traveling just to the east of Japan, much closer to Tokyo, but at present the Japan Meteorological Agency has Ma-On making landfall on Shikoku Island Tuesday morning local time and then recurving sharply towards the east, passing well south of Tokyo,” said Dr. Peter Sousounis, principal scientist at AIR Worldwide. “However, because of the orientation of Japan’s coastline, even slight disparities in forecast tracks have significant implications for loss potential.”
    “The storm is expected to bring destructive winds to Japan’s southern coasts and some 12 to 24 centimetres of precipitation as the storm slows and begins to recurve before undergoing extratropical transitioning. In Japan, more than half of storms undergo extratropical transition, which can exacerbate flooding. Even weak storms several hundred kilometres offshore can cause flood damage on land.”
    by Majj 7/19/2011 1:43:29 PM

  • by Majj 7/19/2011 1:43:41 PM

  • Tropical Storm MA-ON: Probability of tropical storm winds to 120 hours lead www.tropicalstormrisk.com

    by Majj via Tropicalstormrisk 7/19/2011 1:45:19 PM

  • tiny.cc Tropical Storm MA-ON Animation
    by Majj 7/19/2011 1:48:57 PM

  • @Majj, can you copy those on Organize also? Off to update the group page on the typhoon. Thanks for the info!
    by lillymunster 7/19/2011 1:49:14 PM

  • @lillymunster Yes but how and where ??
    by Majj 7/19/2011 1:50:23 PM

  • @lillymunster I know what you min, but I don't know how to post there...
    by Majj 7/19/2011 1:54:10 PM

  • @Majj, just go over there and do as you do here. Link: client.scribblelive.com
    by lillymunster 7/19/2011 1:55:54 PM

  • IF it doesn't work let me know and I can try to copy them.
    by lillymunster 7/19/2011 1:56:11 PM

  • Typhoon update on the group page.
    by lillymunster 7/19/2011 2:04:35 PM

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