Japan Earthquake

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@lillymunster @dean thats great I am very slow today been a busy day
by elainekirk 7/21/2011 8:02:11 PM

@dean oops, link didn't work.
by lillymunster 7/21/2011 8:07:48 PM

@elainekirk no worries. I am grabbing links on this, can email you the pile of them later today.
by lillymunster 7/21/2011 8:08:14 PM

IAEA chief to visit crippled Fukushima Daiichi plant Mon.

VIENNA, July 21, Kyodo
by Edano 7/21/2011 8:31:56 PM

@Edano oh grief just how gullible do they think we flippin' are some chap who worked for 13yrs in a nuke plant in UK before entering the corridors of power going to fuku is not going to reassure any but the most gullible it doesnt give us information, it doesn't help the Japanese people and whatever his thoughts and opinions at the end of the day are irrelevant as far as tepco are concerned they will just carry on regardless
by elainekirk 7/21/2011 8:42:16 PM

Hmm, radiation concentrations in Tokyo. It looks like it is in the center of the city. I don't know Tokyo, is their business core in the middle of town? I have to wonder if buildings and geography are concentrating radiation there. enenews.com
by lillymunster 7/21/2011 8:53:25 PM

Local govt. told tea retailer to not disclose contaminated tea found in the area. search.japantimes.co.jp
That tea being 100km from Tokyo www.yomiuri.co.jp
by lillymunster 7/21/2011 9:11:17 PM

EDITORIAL: Investing billions on new fast-breeder reactor should stop "During a regular news conference on July 15, Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology Minister Yoshiaki Takaki was asked about the future of the government's Monju prototype fast-breeder reactor in Fukui Prefecture. He replied, "Rather than discuss it in simplistic terms of scrapping or keeping it, let's just say the answer lies in the government's overall energy policy. " www.asahi.com
by Ralph Unger 7/21/2011 9:14:10 PM

This is a rad exposure report? Kinda skimpy. www.tepco.co.jp
by Ralph Unger 7/21/2011 9:21:03 PM

@Ralph Unger They have estimated 3000+ people working at the plant right now and a total near 8000 that have worked at the plant in some capacity since the disaster. Those numbers look unlikely. You would think the bottom bracket would at least have some big numbers.
by lillymunster 7/21/2011 9:23:38 PM

Yeppers and they have not got documentation on many of the workers that were exposed, they do not even have a name!
by Ralph Unger 7/21/2011 9:24:27 PM

So that is highly irregular those are the workers between 50 and 100 but they havent put the timescale and I think you will find they are time block readings and those are march april ach it is really difficult o explain they have been very manipulative with this data I will try find he release that this is a correction of
by elainekirk 7/21/2011 9:30:18 PM

6 Workers over 250 Msv not even listed there.
by Ralph Unger 7/21/2011 9:32:58 PM

@elainekirk more lying through admission. Most of the whole body counts have been done in June-July. Yet they only list April & May?
by lillymunster 7/21/2011 9:38:28 PM

@Ralph, if you can write up all the things you find wrong I can write up a post or if you want to write it all up if you have time?
by lillymunster 7/21/2011 9:39:12 PM

The document I linked is updated to July 13th, the heavy exposures happened much earlier. If anyone cares I can write up a story about the discrepancies and show links to the data.
by Ralph Unger 7/21/2011 9:41:33 PM

Most of the links I would cite, I have already posted here.
by Ralph Unger 7/21/2011 9:42:44 PM

back
by dean 7/21/2011 9:51:46 PM

@Ralph Unger that would be great if you have time to do so.
by lillymunster 7/21/2011 9:57:45 PM

So there were a few cases of higher exposure. www.tepco.co.jp
by Ralph Unger 7/21/2011 10:06:18 PM

PRoblem with radioactive cattle gets worse www.sfgate.com
by lillymunster 7/21/2011 10:28:15 PM

Back up to 1500. www.japantoday.com
by Panserbjorne9 7/21/2011 10:49:32 PM

Split Within Nuclear Regulatory Agency www.nytimes.com
by Panserbjorne9 7/21/2011 10:52:28 PM

There and Back Again: Sobering Thoughts about the Nuclear Madness We All Face www.opednews.com
by Panserbjorne9 7/21/2011 10:56:15 PM

Japan's debt
The domino that never falls
The long-term prognosis for the debt-ridden economy is not good www.economist.com
by Panserbjorne9 7/21/2011 11:02:28 PM

Looks like Unit #1's just been re-splattered - TEPCAM was unavailable for a short while (circa half an hour?) but is now back online.
by es 7/21/2011 11:06:10 PM

QuakeAlert
DATE : 07/22/2011 00:48:41
TIME : 16 minutes ago
REG. : near the east coast of Honshu, Japan
MAG. : 4.6
DEP. : 51.4 km
ID : 124107
quakes.globalincidentmap.com

nothing serious ...
by Edano 7/21/2011 11:06:11 PM

OMG. FUKUSHIMA THE GAME (VERSION 1.1) freemobilesstuffs.blogspot.com

a very sophisticated, complex game ;) Edano
by Panserbjorne9 edited by Edano 7/21/2011 11:06:20 PM

@Panserbjorne9 going to be big changes so why they are risking long term recovery by putting the health of 10's of thousannds at risk is mystifying. Japan could relocate people and businesses forcing tepco to compensate and start down the road to recovery instead they lie and confuse to prevent people being able to get teppco to pay up
by elainekirk 7/21/2011 11:08:25 PM

@Edano LOL I know! It's basically whack-a-mole, but I guess it's vent-a-reactor. But maybe it's close to true life...
by Panserbjorne9 7/21/2011 11:13:48 PM

Hi folks. Did anyone capture the radioactive flat bed truck vid from u tube www.youtube.com I get a "This video is private.
If the owner of this video has granted you access, please log in." message now.
by Cat 7/21/2011 11:21:47 PM

As to dosimetry of the workers, the NISA report to IAEA states (long post):
In this accident, tsunamis reached buildings facing the sea coast which provide
access to the controlled areas as described in (2), depriving the function of the control
system, and rendering many of the APDs and dose reading devices unusable as they
became submerged in seawater.
Also, due to the increase of radiation and contamination levels in the power station
site, it was decided that workers should conduct all operations in TEPCO’s response
headquarters established in the quake-proof building, and that distribution of APDs
and recording of doses were performed in the quake-proof building.
From March 11, shortly after the earthquake, dose management for workers had to be
performed manually by recording the names of individuals and their daily dose
values on paper to accumulate data. Moreover, such daily individual doses which
were manually recorded were and are manually input into PCs (using Excel sheets)
and saved in a database.
Since many APDs became unusable for the reasons described above, not every
worker was able to wear an APD and TEPCO has thus been managing radiation
doses of all the personnel by making leaders of operational groups wear APDs on
behalf of the entire group. As controlling workers’ radiation exposure is extremely
important to ensure safety on the site, the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency
(NISA) gave oral instructions to TEPCO to make every effort to manage its workers’
radiation exposure and dose. After receiving these instructions, TEPCO procured the
necessary dosimeters by April 1 so that all the workers conducting operations were
able to carry portable dosimeters.
Furthermore, the evaluation of external exposure during work in the quake-building
was based on the length of period of stay because workers didn’t wear APDs when
working inside the building. Moreover, shortly after the earthquake, appropriate
protection equipment such as protective masks were not worn even though the
calculation of radioactive materials within the air of the quake-proof building
exceeded the allowable limits of radioactive concentration in the air, resulting in VII -4
workers staying in the building inhaling radioactive materials.
On April 14, about one month after the accident occurred, radiation control measures
similar to that of the previous dose management (the system in which individual
names and dose readings are automatically recorded) became available since the
system of radiation control measures was nearly completely restored.
by Peter Melzer 7/21/2011 11:22:44 PM

@Cat : try this www.youtube.com ;)
by Edano 7/21/2011 11:28:06 PM

@peter how convenient for tepco
by elainekirk 7/21/2011 11:29:00 PM

There is more here:
The status of exposure doses for the workers engaged in emergency work at Fukushima
Dai-ichi NPS as of May 23 is that there were approximately 7,800 people who entered the site
and were exposed to approximately 7.7 mSv on average. Thirty people were recorded as
receiving doses over 100 mSv. The compiled results of exposure doses are as shown in
Attachment VII-2.
In this accident, there are cases where exposure doses exceed the limit dose stipulated in the
law, and the details are as follows.
On March 24, it was confirmed that two out of three workers involved in work for laying
electric cables on the 1st and basement floors of the turbine building of Unit 3 had radioactive
materials attached to the skin of their feet when stepping into puddles of radioactive water
wearing low-cut shoes. Although TEPCO decontaminated their exposed skin, it decided that
there was a possibility of beta ray burns, and the two workers were transported to Fukushima
Medical University Hospital. After examination on March 25, all three workers including the
two that were exposed to the puddle were transported to an independent administrative
institution, the National Institute of Radiological Sciences (NIRS). Immediately after their
arrival, NIRS performed checkups, etc. The workers were also re-examined on April 11 for
follow-ups and it was confirmed that these three workers were not suffering any health issues.
From the results of the evaluations of the equivalent doses of their skin, it is estimated that they
were exposed to less than 2 to 3 Sv.
Moreover, on April 27, in the course of confirming radiation exposures over a period of three
months, TEPCO confirmed that a female employee had been exposed to more than 5 mSv over
a period of 3 months, which is above the legally stipulated dose limit. Meanwhile, some of the
people engaged in work were not designated as radiation workers.
by Peter Melzer 7/21/2011 11:36:04 PM

@Cat : this is from my harddisk, so not deletable anymore
by Edano 7/21/2011 11:41:48 PM

@Edano TY, I got that one This one is a flatbed truck filmed in Japan and inside the back was off the scale radioactive. I have the right link but the vid has been made private.
by Cat 7/21/2011 11:45:00 PM

@Edano. Can you open this one? www.youtube.com
by Cat 7/21/2011 11:46:56 PM

It was posted a couple of days ago and I think it was embedded in the scribble site.
by Cat 7/21/2011 11:48:18 PM

@Cat : no. if it is embedded here, you won't be able to watch it anymore. but i bet there is another copy on youtube.
by Edano 7/21/2011 11:51:25 PM

impressions of nuclear transports in germany. we try to meke them as expensive as possible .... ! ;)
by Edano 7/21/2011 11:52:56 PM

@Panserbjorne9 Her'es a double-take line from that SFgate article:

Hay from rice stalks made in Fukushima prefecture was found to contain radiation of as much as 690,000 becquerels compared with the 300-becquerel safety limit, according to the local government office. The cattle suspected of being fed the contaminated hay have been shipped to 45 of Japan's 47 prefectures, Kyodo News reported yesterday.
by RadioGuy 7/22/2011 12:00:30 AM

@RadioGuy it seems thare using the milk principle to spread the beef only not quite as easily diluted
by elainekirk 7/22/2011 12:07:28 AM

@elainekirk Can those numbers be right? 690,000 vs 300?
by RadioGuy 7/22/2011 12:10:04 AM

I guess it depends how big your sample and whether you happen to sample the right bale. What constitutes "the right bale" depends on your side in this fiasco.
by RadioGuy 7/22/2011 12:12:31 AM