
@dean burning it with a proper scrubbing/filter system would work I would think.
by lillymunster 7/26/2011 9:34:55 PM

@dean they work with govs etc on guidance of which on mo I fetch
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 9:35:03 PM

@dean
Looking at ICRP who @dean & co were discussing I found this as soon as I went on the site so posting it and will now go look for the bods behind ICRP
Draft report: Low-dose Extrapolation of Radiation-Related Cancer Riskwww.icrp.orgresponses to the consultation
www.icrp.orgby elainekirk 7/26/2011 9:35:54 PM


@dean they are a charity funded mainly by intenaional governments registered in the UK www.charity-commission.gov.uk
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 9:38:28 PM


@dean www.charity-commission.gov.uk they feed into the IAEA etc
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 9:39:00 PM

Politicians question METI & power co generation numbers
mdn.mainichi.jpby lillymunster 7/26/2011 9:40:16 PM

checking it out now elaine
by dean 7/26/2011 9:40:25 PM

reading the "CONCLUSIONS" of that report elaine..
by dean 7/26/2011 9:44:08 PM

@dean they did a lot with Japan 09-10 and I am trying to find the nature of that work we know it happened from the accounts submitted to the charity commission
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 9:44:16 PM

elaine.. so far the section 7 is written in what I call.. HEEBA HOBBA. language...
by dean 7/26/2011 9:49:16 PM

..... absolutely NO news in the papers .....
by Edano 7/26/2011 9:50:14 PM

@dean is that what we call balderdash in the uk?
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 9:52:30 PM

@ elaine.. I would like to see the response of a japanese familly living in the exclusion are as KAN read section 7 to them... duh...
by dean 7/26/2011 9:52:45 PM

are=area
by dean 7/26/2011 9:52:57 PM

ICRP Main Commission Task Group Established on Initial
Lessons from the NPP Accident in Japan
www.icrp.orgby elainekirk 7/26/2011 9:54:16 PM

@dean havent you seen the vid yet the Japanese gov no longer explain anything to the people
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 9:55:16 PM

Task Group 84
Initial Lessons Learned from the NPP Accident in Japan vis-à-vis the ICRP System of Radiological Protection
www.icrp.orgby elainekirk 7/26/2011 9:56:27 PM

FUKU is becoming nothing more than jobs for the boys - so many official groups iaea - icrp -UN - NRC all with grubby little fingers in the pie greedily stealing the fruit whilst the people can't even get basic answers
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 9:58:34 PM

I don't care about how much radiation an astronaut gets or preventative medicine or standing out side... it's all elective things that we do,,, I care about industrial exposures to workers on the site, at the plant or within the high rad areas where ever they are in the country... remember there are no acceptable exposure levels of radiation from any nuclear industrial source in my opinion. I want the original levels established and used for years to be left alone
by dean 7/26/2011 9:59:41 PM

@elainekirk Maybe it is because I am really tired this afternoon but this reads like a Monty Python sketch...
"This Task Group (TG) will compile lessons learned related to the efforts carried out to protect people against radiation exposure during and after the emergency exposure situation caused by the Nuclear Power Plant accident in Japan. In light of these lessons, the report of the TG will consider the suitability of ad hoc recommendations for the ICRP system of radiological protection for dealing with this type of emergency exposure.
The TG will prepare a report for publication in the Annals of the ICRP containing its findings and assessment, and make recommendations to the ICRP Main Commission on any other follow up actions, including potential improvements to the System of Radiological Protection.
A separate Committee 4 TG on review and potential revision of ICRP Publications 109 and 111 is already envisaged which would make direct use of the findings and assessment of this Main Commission TG. Therefore, this Main Commission TG is expected to provide only a general assessment in this area."
by lillymunster 7/26/2011 10:04:33 PM

@lillymunster Oh I can explain that
We are forming a couple of task group these are defined by personality / friendship/vested interest
these groups will each think up an obscure reason for their existance (and hefty expense claims) and get the secretary to write their collective offerings up
we will then publish these on our siite as reports that will tell you damn all but will have given us a bit of fun at public expense
that is how uk charities work#
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 10:08:59 PM

@Puc I think actually that some ikinda heat haze and smoke coming from 3 is getting drawn across and up if you look closely it is pulsing out of 3
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 10:11:35 PM

@elainekirk Do they get public funds for this?
by lillymunster 7/26/2011 10:19:58 PM

new sampling points have been added to tepco's schedule from now on for example (
there are other eye openers) there will be testing for
strontium
tritrium
Plutonium
at the following points
Subdrain around numbers 1 3 4 6 turbine buildings and the deep well
read more never thought of before sampling points here
www.tepco.co.jp by elainekirk 7/26/2011 10:21:45 PM

@lillymunster yes if you zoom the bigger of the screenshots below it shows funding sources the nrc gave them 100.000 £ in 2008
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 10:23:42 PM

@elaine.. the committee... 1-USA, 1 KOREA, 1 SWITZERLAND, 5 JAPAN...
by dean 7/26/2011 10:26:37 PM

@dean I bet that'll be changing cant see Switzerland tolerating any back scratching after this
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 10:34:05 PM

@Cat oh I would like to see that
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 10:34:58 PM

The last plant parameters are from the 25th. None for 26th at all, none for 27th yet. The ones on 25th showed #4 sfp 83c. Unit 3 sfp 30c. Unit 3 both reactor temps 120c or less and that is around the same range as Unit 2. So something could have changed since the 25th. As usual with TEPCO when they stop giving information that is where or when to go see what they are up to because they are usually hiding something METI 25th stats
www.meti.go.jpby lillymunster 7/26/2011 10:35:07 PM

@Cat "Don't taze me bro", protest zones etc. Sometimes the US really comes off as tone deaf in international policy. Some of the NRC statements don't come across any better than what METI shovels at people.
by lillymunster 7/26/2011 10:37:27 PM




@lillymunster some basic temps here for today
www.tepco.co.jpby elainekirk 7/26/2011 10:39:46 PM

there is data like every day. last update 27 11:00 o'clock
by Edano 7/26/2011 10:41:43 PM

@Edano I meant the plant parameters report. They stopped releasing them for a while.
by lillymunster 7/26/2011 10:44:33 PM


well didnt they say they were all under 100 ooopsa daisy that isnt what it says here www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 10:47:18 PM

true elaine on the backscratching... I am thinking I'll discount what that group says/recommends
by dean 7/26/2011 10:47:20 PM