
@Majj you are wonderful we all benefit so much from your input thank you
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 10:52:34 AM

@Peter Melzer I had it in my head that there had been an international agreement that countries kept their waste
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 10:53:31 AM

Morning all! (afternoon-evening)
Has anyone found a news link for the pork contamination Rockhopper put on twitter? Want to add to the newsroundup.
by lillymunster 7/26/2011 11:02:59 AM

@all. Are you familiar with the red dot cartoons? They are Japanese depictions of people or children in situations where radiation exists and the red dots represent the radiation. Rockhopper left me a message wondering if I wanted some buttons that have this art on them (I guess there was an order of them done). If anyone has interest in one or wants a bunch of them for something please let me know.
by lillymunster 7/26/2011 11:05:44 AM

Iowa residents rejected a plan for new nuclear plants there that had already made its way through the state legislature. It would have allowed Mid American Energy to build new nuclear plants and raise rates. After Fuku the public vote was 75% against the new nuclear plants. In Iowa.
www.huffingtonpost.comby lillymunster 7/26/2011 11:10:38 AM

@lilly yes interest in the red dot buttons!
by bo 7/26/2011 11:14:57 AM

@bo any idea on quantity or just want one?
by lillymunster 7/26/2011 11:17:09 AM

Gov't panel advises keeping lifetime radiation exposure in checkTOKYO, July 26, Kyodo
A government food safety panel recommended on Tuesday that safeguard measures be taken to ensure that cumulative radiation exposure during a person's lifetime not exceed 100 millisieverts,
a benchmark beyond which the risk of cancer increases.
The Food Safety Commission's conclusion paves the way for the health ministry to consider revising its provisional limits for radioactive nuclides in food, set in the wake of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant crisis based on annual internal exposure levels and which do not take into consideration amounts absorbed through external exposure or lifetime accumulated amounts.
The commission also urged the government and the public to note that
children may be more vulnerable to radiation than adults, indicating the possibility of more discussions on lowering allowable levels for children.
english.kyodonews.jp by Edano 7/26/2011 11:17:57 AM

this is exactly what i expected: the govj sets up an insane threshold for radiation, so that they can safely move back the people and pretend nothing has happened.
by Edano 7/26/2011 11:19:36 AM

this is really a crime !
by Edano 7/26/2011 11:20:04 AM

so now they officially accept cancer in the population.
by Edano 7/26/2011 11:22:36 AM

@lilly these are buttons?
by bo 7/26/2011 11:25:15 AM

Kan: Japan needs national nuclear energy debatePrime Minister Naoto Kan has told the visiting head of the International Atomic Energy Agency that Japan needs to have a broad national debate about reducing its reliance on nuclear power.
Kan met IAEA Director General Yukiya Amano in Tokyo on Tuesday, one day after Amano visited the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.
Amano said the IAEA can help Japan with its expertise and experience in radiation decontamination, handling of melted reactor cores and extraction of spent nuclear fuel rods.
Kan said Japan has completed the first stage of bringing the Fukushima nuclear disaster under control, and is moving on to the second phase. He said that Japan wants to cooperate fully with the IAEA.
Referring to his recent call for Japan to reduce its reliance on nuclear energy, Kan said the country needs to hold a wide public debate on the issue.
On July 13th, the prime minister told a news conference that Japan should cut its dependence on nuclear power.
Following a tide of criticism, he said that this was his own view and not government policy.
After his meeting with Kan, Amano told reporters there is no doubt more nuclear plants would be built around the world in the future, as many countries think they need nuclear energy to deal with global warming. He said building safe nuclear plants will contribute to safe use of atomic energy.Tuesday, July 26, 2011 16:08 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp by Edano 7/26/2011 11:27:53 AM

liar, mafioso !
by Edano 7/26/2011 11:29:52 AM


I dont think I got that quite right it is a pin rockhopper sent me he is going to snail mail me some

@bo yes
by lillymunster 7/26/2011 11:30:13 AM

Nuclear plants urged to brace for biggest tsunamiA senior member of a Japanese government council on disaster preparedness says nuclear plants must prepare for the biggest possible tsunami, no matter how small the likelihood of such an event.
Kansai University Professor Yoshiaki Kawata, who heads the council's survey team, briefed the Nuclear Safety Commission on the council's new tsunami measures on Tuesday.
Kawata said a nuclear plant that Chugoku Electric Power Company plans to build by the Seto Inland Sea could be at risk. He cited new findings that a past massive earthquake in the Pacific off central to southwestern Japan sent tsunami waves into the sea.
Kawata also cited old documents that say a tsunami hit Wakasa Bay in Fukui Prefecture after an earthquake about 400 years ago. Thirteen nuclear reactors are located by the bay in the Sea of Japan.
Kawata said even an inland quake could send earth and sand crashing into the sea, triggering a tsunami.
He said the impact of an accident caused by failure to prepare for the biggest possible tsunami would be enormous.
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 17:03 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp by Edano 7/26/2011 11:31:15 AM

Govt seeking voluntary ban on compost and humusJapan's government is calling on farmers not to use or sell compost and humus made in the east of the country since the start of the Fukushima nuclear crisis.
Radioactive cesium exceeding the government's permissible levels has been found in rice straw sold by dealers in Miyagi and other prefectures.
The agriculture ministry wants
a voluntary ban [?] on the use and sale of compost made of manure from cows that may have been fed the contaminated straw. The measure also applies to humus from fallen leaves.
The ministry says the ban should continue until it draws up guidelines for levels of radioactive cesium in compost.
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 15:57 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp by Edano 7/26/2011 11:33:24 AM

what is a voluntary ban ?
by Edano 7/26/2011 11:33:37 AM

@lilly two please!
by bo 7/26/2011 11:36:29 AM

@Edano a voluntary ban is what happens in a perfect world.
by bo 7/26/2011 11:37:09 AM

@bo K. If anyone else wants one let me know. I wanted at least one for myself and will grab Bo's order so I can throw some more on and send out if people want them.
by lillymunster 7/26/2011 11:37:57 AM

@Edano voluntary ban = oxymoron like jumbo shrimp
by lillymunster 7/26/2011 11:38:53 AM

@lilly let me know about sending you $$$
by bo 7/26/2011 11:39:03 AM

the only way to go is that the gov or tepco have to buy the shit, a voluntary ban is BS.
by Edano 7/26/2011 11:39:53 AM

i put a voluntary ban on cigarettes ... every day a new one.
by Edano 7/26/2011 11:42:24 AM

@Edano do you think this boils down to liability
'If we dont tell them they can't sell it then we don't have to compensate' if so why are they not levying a tax on the industry to cover the compensation considering they have now capped the nuke industries liability?
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 11:43:39 AM

@elainekirk : because they want the radiation to spread and dilute, now that they defined a 100 mS life time dose on 128 mio inhabitants !
by Edano 7/26/2011 11:45:36 AM

@lilly.. try the gmail again please.... @ all good morning
by dean 7/26/2011 11:47:30 AM

Hi dean
by bo 7/26/2011 11:47:45 AM

@dean looks like it went through, thanks.
by lillymunster 7/26/2011 11:53:06 AM

@elainekirk @Edano this is all about liability and compensation. There has to be something that can be done to stop this denial of reality. But I think the reality would bankrupt both TEPCO and GoJ. That is what we should all worldwide be thinking about. This is the real cost of commercial nuclear power.
by lillymunster 7/26/2011 11:55:06 AM

@lilly but until shareholders have to pay that cost, and as long as taxpayers are made to pay that cost, the people who make these decisions will think they are a good idea
by bo 7/26/2011 11:58:29 AM

Of course we are not hearing about the Responsible Seniors Corp (or Viagra Corp, as I call 'em) but what about the Responsible Shareholders Corp?
by bo 7/26/2011 11:59:08 AM

@bo LOL. Make the shareholders go clean it up. :-)
by lillymunster 7/26/2011 11:59:48 AM

I am beginning to sense that the philosophy of governments protecting the citizens is transforming into the government re-establishing the limits to levels known to result in cancers or as in USA "Protective Action Guidelines or PAGs" and then tell it's citizens that increased radiation or contamination can be bad for your health. Then the government expects the PEOPE, the 'CITIZENS' to take immediate action. gheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
by dean 7/26/2011 12:00:11 PM

Be back later. Off to take the hubby for outpatient surgery on his knee. They have wifi at the hospital so will check in later.
by lillymunster 7/26/2011 12:00:47 PM

immediate action.. stop smoking - don't go near the radiation etc
by dean 7/26/2011 12:01:00 PM

Take care lilly.
by bo 7/26/2011 12:01:08 PM

be safe lilly.. our thoughts and prayers with your husband
by dean 7/26/2011 12:01:25 PM