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...and...and...click the heels of your ruby slippers three times and repeat...there is no upward threshold of the radiation I can absorb!
by bo 7/26/2011 12:01:36 PM

like the warning.. consuming red under cooked meat can be bad
by dean 7/26/2011 12:04:33 PM

@Edano the tires probably werent over some obscure limit but they just lost them a lot of trade en.aswataliraq.info
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 12:05:12 PM

they make the people take care for their lifetime internal dose of 100 mS. poor people. how shall they do that ?
by Edano 7/26/2011 12:05:12 PM

that's the jist I get out of all this.. even in USA with the EPA tweeking the limits... shifting the liability on to the citizens... "we warned you"... now we won't cover your health care costs..
by dean 7/26/2011 12:06:21 PM

interesting piece elaine... they are going to FINE japan companies.. that will be interesting to see how that plays out
by dean 7/26/2011 12:08:37 PM

@dean : this scares me for my children. accepting the radiation and denying the danger. is this the future ?
by Edano 7/26/2011 12:09:46 PM

The new policy, delivered on March 17 and titled "Regarding Raising the Upper Radiation Dose Limit," came just three days after the government had raised the exposure limit from the usual 100 millisieverts to 250. The proposed doubling to 500 millisieverts would have brought the emergency upper limit in line with that recommended by the International Commission on Radiological Protection (ICRP). so I wonder who is the ICRP and where is it located?
by dean 7/26/2011 12:10:21 PM

it's sad @ Edano.. I was with my two grandsons this past weekend and wondered the same thing
by dean 7/26/2011 12:11:19 PM

articles.latimes.com - earlier article in the LA TIMES the action by the parent interupting the speaker and then the comment by the official.. "we have taken these steps so that the children and their parents can feel relieved".. amazing
by dean 7/26/2011 12:19:45 PM

A woman in the front row cut off one spokesman:

"In the playground, in the sandbox, children put dirt into their mouths! They breathe in the dust! You should do the same! Lick the dirt!" she shouted to applause. "You wouldn't do this to your own kids!"
by dean 7/26/2011 12:20:15 PM

My interview on RT earlier today. Not good questions. What can you do!
by bo 7/26/2011 12:21:47 PM

Thanks dean. The questions were too general, but I tried to get a few points in.
by bo 7/26/2011 12:25:59 PM

@Puc thanks. I had a problem with my Skype camera and it only began to work ten seconds before they started. So I was a little frazzled.
by bo 7/26/2011 12:30:03 PM

But look how RT works. They are the ones still on the story, and it takes the visit of the head of the IAEA to get them to do some coverage. There will be less and less coverage of this story, even as the health consequences get worse and worse.
by bo 7/26/2011 12:30:52 PM

@bo , many time on Skype my cam comes on only when I call.
by Peter Melzer 7/26/2011 12:31:21 PM

@Peter Melzer I know, but this was even after we were connected. What it was was the fact that I had updated to Mac Lion a few days earlier and it had a conflict with Skype, but Skype released an update to resolve it. I downloaded the update and rebooted the program just in time.
by bo 7/26/2011 12:32:45 PM

@bo: japanese people wont accept this, we will see...
by Puc 7/26/2011 12:33:07 PM

@Puc I am sure you are right. They can set the limit at whatever they like, it won't change reality. When people are sick they won't care what officially set levels are. People in Japan are becoming very angry. And everyone knows that is not Japanese, which only makes it more fun. So whatever official levels of acceptable exposure are created, people will respond to their health conditions, and not to a number.
by bo 7/26/2011 12:35:11 PM

@bo , that is why I always wait a few months with upgrades to a new OS.
by Peter Melzer 7/26/2011 12:35:30 PM

@bo, have you seen such a sign yet? i1214.photobucket.com
by Peter Melzer via I1214.photobucket 7/26/2011 12:38:07 PM

@Peter Melzer i haven't. We are over 500 km away here. But next week is the anniversary of the bombing, so this town will fill up with peace activists from around the world. So there is sure to be some interesting things going on, certainly a lot of it Fukushima related.
by bo 7/26/2011 12:40:31 PM

gm @ PETER... ty all .. I'm off to work .. will return later..
by dean 7/26/2011 12:43:21 PM

The government of Japan promised a lot to the UN www.kantei.go.jp : “In order to allay health concerns of the residents, screening and decontamination of the residents will definitely be implemented. A health counseling hotline was opened and on-site health counseling, and mental care is provided to ensure that residents’ health is properly managed.” The citizens of Japan must hold their government to its promises.
by Peter Melzer 7/26/2011 12:49:17 PM

@Peter Melzer The UN should hold Japan to its promises
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 12:54:02 PM

@bo ty for the video... the lifetime exposure limit is a way to sneakily raise levels without having it look bad. They will allow more radiation exposure in the short term and hope they can clean it up 20 years from now. A more reasonable limit is 1 mSv/yr. The ICRP was criticized in Chernobyl also for having too high limits, I believe its permissible levels are far higher than what is considered ethical. For one thing, it only predicts cancer, while it has been proved that internal radiation can cause heart disease, blindness and respiratory problems.
by Bobby1 7/26/2011 12:55:36 PM

@Peter Melzer : properly managed ... means 100 mS is okay. nothing to see. walk on by.
by Edano 7/26/2011 12:55:42 PM

@Puc because they cannot do anything. not anymore.
by Edano 7/26/2011 12:56:30 PM

@edano: ok, I understand. I think about the 50 other japanese plants: orderly and technicloving people like the japanese cant accept a technology which is destructiv...in a few years we will see... the "greater" problem is (my opinion) the nuclear punk and the worldwide nuclear industry...
by Puc 7/26/2011 1:00:54 PM

@elainekirk , that is why I am citing this paper so much, not because I deeply believe in the validity of its facts. Rather in this document promises are made.
by Peter Melzer 7/26/2011 1:01:05 PM

@Edano , exactly these pronouncements need to be contested. Are you taking care of public health by increasing limits above the rest of the world?
by Peter Melzer 7/26/2011 1:05:34 PM

@Peter Melzer more power to your elbow :) keep pushing :)
by elainekirk 7/26/2011 1:05:37 PM

@Peter Melzer no, surely not. okay, that's a good point.
by Edano 7/26/2011 1:07:02 PM