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Evolution of ICRP Recommendations 1977, 1990 and 2007
Radiological protection
www.oecd-nea.org
by Edano 7/27/2011 5:14:54 PM

@Lilly @all I just sent the NHK documentary link with a request to investigate the mishandling of the radiation crisis in Japan to both 60 Minutes and Anderson Cooper 360. Keep your fingers crossed that they watch it!
by LM 7/27/2011 5:15:39 PM

@lillymunster , sorry. Try this one: bit.ly , ;)
by Peter Melzer 7/27/2011 5:20:08 PM

@ariadne use Google.com with english search terms, then you can use them translated at Google.jp. If you use Google Chrome it will give you the option to translate everything into English. Otherwise I use Google Transate to cut and paste bits I want to read. The search will highlight or bold any matches of your search term so even if you can't read what your looking at you can see what is matching. Use this for a search term with one year or the other. "Kashiwazaki MOX 2010 2011" you can translate it to Japanese by plopping it into Google Translate translate.google.com
If your getting too vague results try putting quotations around MOX or use Kashiwazaki-Kariwa (the official name of the power plant). I should be around for maybe another hour but I go back and check the old posts when I get back. Should be on tonight also.
by lillymunster 7/27/2011 5:20:51 PM

@Edano what is the deal with ICRP, I saw discussions of the group itself being questionable.
by lillymunster 7/27/2011 5:21:35 PM

@lillymunster : yes, reading about it. they have very high recommendations for radiological exposures. your paper in the photo refers to it.
by Edano 7/27/2011 5:23:01 PM

@Edano, they advise GoJ, don't they?

by Peter Melzer 7/27/2011 5:24:03 PM

@Peter Melzer : it seems they make specific recommendations for each country.
by Edano 7/27/2011 5:25:20 PM

@lillymunster thanks Lilly I'll start now. Hope your day is a good one :)
by ariadne 7/27/2011 5:25:33 PM

@ariadne thanks! THe help is greatly appreciated!
by lillymunster 7/27/2011 5:26:07 PM

@Edano , the NISA report mentions them on page 22:
"Experts from international organizations specializing in nuclear power such as the IAEA and the OECD Nuclear Energy Agency (OECD / NEA) visited Japan and provided advice and so on. Also, international organizations such as the IAEA, the World Health Organization (WHO), the ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) and the IMO (the International Maritime 23 Organization), as well as the International Commission on Radiological Protection (ICRP) have provided necessary information to the international community from their technical standpoints."
by Peter Melzer 7/27/2011 5:30:48 PM

who the icrp 'work' with they get funding from many of them so are hardly independent
by elainekirk 7/27/2011 5:34:50 PM

icrp funding stream - 2009- they are a 'charity' registered in the uk which is an alarm bell in itself the gov for yrs set up charities as arms length gov agencies
by elainekirk 7/27/2011 5:36:34 PM

sorry to those who have seen them before but I think it important that as many as possible know of 'the bonds that tie' www.icrp.org
by elainekirk 7/27/2011 5:38:05 PM

@elainekirk So they are a govt. PR mill posing as an independent agency. I think this needs an article.

Do they get any funding from big international companies like Excelon or Areva?
by lillymunster 7/27/2011 5:40:06 PM

Tepco Won’t Join Project to Build Turkish Atomic Power Plant
By Tsuyoshi Inajima
Tokyo Electric Power Co. won’t participate in a project to build a nuclear plant in Turkey, said Junichi Matsumoto, a general manager at the utility.
The Japanese company needs to focus on its core business after the nuclear disaster at its Fukushima Dai-Ichi power plant, Matsumoto told reporters in Tokyo today. Tokyo Electric and Toshiba Corp. (6502) had been trying to win the order in Turkey.

The company plans to cooperate on a nuclear project in Vietnam “to the extent possible.” Vietnam agreed in October to make Japan a partner in building the nuclear plant in the southern province of Ninh Thuan.
www.bloomberg.com

Turkey just dodged a bullet but lookout Vietnam.
by joniver 7/27/2011 5:44:24 PM

@elainekirk, kind of interesting. They received most money from the German Ministry for Environmental Protection, and in 08 from the NRC, and later zero. They must have not gotten on well with the new American administration.

by Peter Melzer 7/27/2011 5:45:21 PM

@Peter Melzer There were lots of programs under Bush 2.0 that funneled money to pet non-profit groups.
by lillymunster 7/27/2011 5:47:15 PM

@joniver, as to "in the southern province ", the Northern leadership wishes to situate the plant as far from their homes as possible. Smart!
by Peter Melzer 7/27/2011 5:48:49 PM

Jellyfish have a very relevant objection to nuclear power: facilities that use seawater for cooling suck up untold numbers of jellyfish (and other marine life) every year. These brainless marine invertebrates have finally decided to take a stand, coordinating a global protest that has resulted in the shutdown of four reactors, and millions of jellyfish deaths.

Nobody paid much attention when the the seawater intakes of a nuclear power plant in Japan got clogged with jellyfish last week, maybe because there was other, more interesting stuff going on. But when it turned out that the same thing happen in Israel, and twice in Scotland, people started to ask questions.
Apparently, even the experts are worried about a jellyfish overthrow of our existing beachfront power infrastructure, and with good reason: when nuclear power and jellyfish mix, the result is the stuff of nightmares.
More: dvice.com

Wouldn't it be something if a mindless creature thwarts the nuclear power industry...
by joniver via I1235.photobucket 7/27/2011 5:49:17 PM

@Peter Melzer One small step I suppose.
by joniver 7/27/2011 5:51:26 PM

@joniver poetic mindless men meet mindless fish the battle of the zombies
by elainekirk 7/27/2011 5:51:43 PM

@lillymunster give me a few minutes I will get a few years of the accounts get a bigger picture of funders and some names
by elainekirk 7/27/2011 5:52:56 PM

'Radiation hormesis an incredible lie' www.presstv.ir
by Panserbjorne9 7/27/2011 5:53:50 PM

@elainekirk Like cures like...homeopathic earth medicine.
by joniver 7/27/2011 5:53:59 PM

Added the daily news roundup but put a "more" link on it to keep the town hall video prominent on the home page
by lillymunster 7/27/2011 6:01:45 PM

@joniver Yes but those homeopathics have been succussed down to where there is virtually none of the original matter left, just the energy. When you take arsenicum alnum to cure anxiety, fear, weakness, exhaustion or food poisoning, you wouldn't want to take the actual arsenic, which would cause these symptoms.
by RadioGuy 7/27/2011 6:03:27 PM

"Just a tiny bit of plutonium" would still be a bad idea.
by RadioGuy 7/27/2011 6:04:32 PM

@RadioGuy ........
by Edano 7/27/2011 6:04:42 PM

@Edano Well versed in all kinds of "useless " stuff. :)
by RadioGuy 7/27/2011 6:05:10 PM

peaceandhealthblog.com International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War Big site with lots of links.
by ariadne 7/27/2011 6:06:50 PM

Idaho Springs hot springs in Colorado had these big signs advertising themselves as "radium springs" until the 50's. There are all kinds of posters still about for that drivel.
by RadioGuy 7/27/2011 6:07:25 PM

www.enewspf.com Plutonium Carries Serious Risks to Public Health and the Environment
by ariadne 7/27/2011 6:07:37 PM

@Edano Now their water tests magically clean of radium. Maybe they should sell their magic machine to TEPCO. ;)
by RadioGuy 7/27/2011 6:09:09 PM

www.enewspf.com nuclear-task-forces-safety-recommendations-are-insufficient
by ariadne 7/27/2011 6:18:52 PM

@RadioGuy I realize that but this is earth medicine;)
by joniver 7/27/2011 6:24:18 PM

LOL So I SHOULD be soaking in the Hot Radium Springs to prevent radiation poisoning?
by RadioGuy 7/27/2011 6:26:46 PM

ippnweupdate.files.wordpress.com Radiation in medicine and radiation in nuclear power plants : the same but very different
by ariadne 7/27/2011 6:28:51 PM

Cesium...now in eggs. ex-skf-jp.blogspot.com
by lillymunster 7/27/2011 6:30:32 PM

@lillymunster I still can't get that NHK documentary pinned above out of my thoughts. How in the world did they ever think they could hide those levels of contamination?

Judging from the levels around that chicken farm in the documentary, had those chickens not all died those eggs would have been toxic. Luckily it's just the eggs though. ::rolleyes::
by RadioGuy 7/27/2011 6:34:47 PM

I'd have almost believed that TEPCO was hiding it even from GoJ, but those numerically coded MEXT readings from mid-March were scary high in areas that turned out to be outside the 20km zone, and they had access to those reports and the key, and chose not to tell the affected towns because they didn't want to feed the rumor mill.

That's just twisted.
by RadioGuy 7/27/2011 6:40:38 PM

310 children transferred to schools outside Fukushima city
www.yomiuri.co.jp
by Panserbjorne9 7/27/2011 6:44:47 PM

@RadioGuy I remember back in March people saying just that, that they won't be able to hide the evidence. I think that is what we are seeing. They can't cover it up anymore.
by lillymunster 7/27/2011 6:51:14 PM

@lillymunster I think i need to do a doc with the grant givers and their annual grants for you as the pdf's don't copy paste I will get it done tonight for you
by elainekirk 7/27/2011 6:57:06 PM

how many uk charities do their accounts in dollars ?
Burnasy Federal Medical Biophysical centre seems to exist only in their accounts
And the good old nrc are in the 2009 icrp company report as having given the icrp a grant that year but in their submitted accounts icrp say they didnt
curioser and curioser said Alice
by elainekirk 7/27/2011 7:56:33 PM