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@Edano just remembered what you wrote earlier about funding so searching for that

i have found a document that forbids thyroid scans and other diagnostics by other doctors than those sent by the government. this is made, says the document, to prevent panic of residents who have been pushed in false diagnoses by these non official doctors.

We should go back and look at the image and details. I think it was on momsavechild? We need to know if that was an actual scan or an extrapolation. I am thinking it was a scan?

@Edano they scanned x number of children from x number of towns to extropolate findings to asses all children

here is the page. savechild.net

@lillymunster have you got rockhoppers mail

@Edano now I am even more confused webcache.googleusercontent.com still looking for article in question but thought this worth you reading mdn.mainichi.jp

I hope people are not being told they will be tested and instead get the ultrasound and questionnaire and no real test! How many understand the difference between and ultrasound and a gamma scanner?

@Edano trying to figure out how to get more detail on the 35 msv one. The captures are images so can't translate.

I wonder if something where normal physicians could do scans and report results would be more honest way to check people? At least the physician could give the person honest advice and the report to the govt of the level only could possibly keep someone honest?

@Edano thyroid
ultrasound examination. it is in this iaea chernobyl doc ???? www.nsc.go.jp

NSCRG: T-EP-II.05
Medical Guidelines for Radiation Emergencies
Published in October 2008
The Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan
www.nsc.go.jp

@Edano oh dear which browser do you use ?

@Edano I use chrome so can't help :(

Ohio gozaimasu all

@bo おはようございます。 Ohayo-gozaimasu good morning

Too little too late?

Yes, time heals all political liability.

What we were looking at earlier is the translation of the study says nothing about actually doing a gamma scan of people's thyroid to give them an actual dose to know. There was also a news article that gave the impression people would get gamma scans but didn't explicitly say it. If people only get after the fact care it is like they are brewing cancer in them on purpose. I would assume if someone knew their dose they could act on it sooner or if they don't have a high dose get some comfort that their risk may be lower.

Rockhopper emailed the list of concerns from the parents group:
1) Food safety. The cutoff is too high. 500Bq/kg for food, and 200 for
liquid. This will become serious issue when rice harvest season
arrives around Fukushima.

2) Thyroid problems (not just cancer) after the NHK news two days ago
(1149 test results, including the 35msv). But, not that much
attention, unfortunately. I guess, it's because people still believe
the 100mSv ICRP cutoff and Yamashita's comment, and forgot about this
issue.

3) Congenital deformity and other diseases among newborns (exposed in the womb)

4) Reproductive health among children. This info is going around.
Effects of radiation to oocyte and spermatocyte (especially oocyte,
because it's in girl's body at the birth)
ameblo.jp

this blog says this is based on ICRP.

Girl
temporary infertility
- Acute radiation exposure 0.65-1.5 Gy
permanent infertility
- Acute radiation exposure 2.5-6.0 Gy
- Chronic exposure 0.2 Gy/year

Boy
temporary infertility
- Acute radiation exposure 0.15 Gy
- Chronic exposure 0.4 Gy/year
permanent infertility
- Acute radiation exposure 3.5-6.0 Gy
- Chronic exposure 2.0 Gy/year
One more.
5) effectiveness of things like EM fungi, fermented rice water,
vitamins, and all other things to reduce negative health effects of
radiation. There are many radiation-related frauds happening already.

@Diane_NJ of course what Bloomberg doesn't bother to mention is that bankers have delivered us all a number of lost decades.

2.2 Assessment of thyroid dose
The thyroid dose by inhalation of iodine released into the atmosphere should be evaluated from
the following equation on the basis of the relative concentration of iodine in the surface air and
I-131 equivalent release amount, in accordance with the “Guidelines for Weather Conditions.”
Note that as parameters for the calculation the values of a one-year old child and an adult shown in
Table 2 are used for a major accident and a hypothetical accident, respectively.
Thyroid dose = KTe・M・Qe・(x/Q)
KTe: Dose coefficient related to the thyroid equivalent dose by inhalation of I-131 (3.2 x
10
-6
Sv/Bq for a child and 3.9 x 10
-7
Sv/Bq for an adult)
M: Breathing rate
Qe: Amount of released iodine (I-131 equivalent amount)
(x/Q): Relative concentration
Note that the breathing rate should be selected according to how and how long iodine is released.
I-131 equivalent amount Qe in this case refers to a sum of values obtained by multiplying the
amount of each isotope by the ratio of the dose coefficient of each isotope of iodine to the I-131
thyroid equivalent dose coefficient. It is calculated from the following equation.
  
i
Qe KTi KTe Qi
/
KTI: Thyroid equivalent dose coefficient by inhalation of radionuclide i
Qi: Amount of radionuclide i released www.nsc.go.jp