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yes I am searching honestly but I keep coming across nuggests and I think ooo I will keep this and that ...and ... I will try to remain focused

@Majj that sickens me , how dare they make assumptions on unproven unresearched figures !! Tepco have a long history of deceit and as they are the only ones testing in the area those children were in, (remembering the zone was quite small at first) and as their figures are what the speedi was given to work on... also bearing in mind that they werent all given stable iodine, also bearing in mind that they didnt properly test the few children who did have gamma and on whose results the rest were guesstimated... Oh I am going for coffee and a cigaratte before I end up wasting energy commenting on that absolutely crap article

@lillymunster you there and ready ?

@elainekirk going to lurk :)

@elainekirk absolutely nothing here in german press ....

@Edano ach I will go look I am just finding this blast from the past trip through the tepco archives so adictive!! did you see #3 color scheme after the '02 shutdown

@Edano actually you may find this more interesting I couldnt fathom there being only 5 but 6 is not bwr is it www.tepco.co.jp

@Edano Oh edano my screen is becoming terribly messy

ah, i just translated the article. i thought it is a plan to get out the molten fuel. in fact, it decribes the periodic inspection of #6.
In Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station Unit 6 of the periodic inspection of
原子炉圧力容器内への応力改善装置部品の脱落について Omission of parts for equipment to improve the reactor pressure vessel stress
平成15年12月22日東京電力株式会社 Tokyo Electric Power Company, December 22, 2003
福島第一原子力発電所 Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station translate.google.de

just got back, making some dinner and trying to fix our aquarium

@lillymunster

regarding anomalities in tepco data since july 31 during 2 earthquakes M6.x

referring to
1) tepco data:
-http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/csv_temp_data_1u-j.csv
-http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/csv_temp_data_2u-j.csv
-http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/csv_temp_data_3u-j.csv
-http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/csv_level_pr_data_1u-j.csv
-http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/csv_level_pr_data_2u-j.csv
-http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/csv_level_pr_data_3u-j.csv
2) data plots: -http://www.houseoffoust.com/reactors/graphs.html
3) earthquakes:
- M6.4 July 31 3:54 (eq1)
- M6.0 August 12 3:22 (eq2)
4) reports: -http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/08/breaking-news-splashing-steam-from-the-cracks-in-the-ground/#.Tkkz9M8fr6Y.twitter

factual anomalities:

- #1:
-- pressure drop on eq1 drywell from 115 kPa to 110 kPa in 4 hours, core and torus pressure decrease
-- radiation spikes since eq1 drywell b in Sv/h:
--- 7/31 17:00 356
--- 8/3 5:00 336
--- 8/3 11:00 351
--- 8/3 17:00 353
--- 8/3 23:00 355
--- 8/4 5:00 355
--- 8/4 17:00 263
--- 8/5 5:00 365
--- 8/5 11:00 371
--- 8/7 11:00 275
--- 8/7 17:00 296
--- 8/9 5:00 306
--- 8/10 5:00 356
--- 8/12 5:30 360 ( => eq2 )
--- 8/12 11:00 334
--- 8/13 5:00 319
--- 8/13 11:00 364
--- 8/15 17:00 359
--- before eq1, there were no readings over 300 Sv/h

- #2:
-- temperature drop in CRD (contrtol rod device) housing top (orange bubbles in plot):
--- from 121.0 centigrades (7/30 23:00) to 110.0 centigrades (7/31 5:00) exactly on eq1
--- from 98.0 centigrades (8/11 23:00) to 87.0 centigrades (8/12 5:30) exactly on eq2
-- pressure decreasing since eq1:
--- from constantly 135 kPa before 7/30 23:00 to 120 kPa now core pressure a (eq1)
--- from constantly 134.325 kPa (101.325 + (0.033* 1000)) before 7/30 5:00 to 120.325 kPa + (0.019 * 1000) now torus pressure (eq1)
-- radiation rise and sudden drop in drywell b:
--- eq1: radiation slowly rising from 14.1 Sv/h before 7/28 11:00 (eq1) to 15.7 Sv/h on 8/11 23:00 (before eq2)
--- eq2: sudden drop from 15.7 Sv/h (8/11 23:00) to 0.00207 Sv/h (8/12 5:30) exactly eq2
--- rapidly rising again after eq2: 0.00207 - 0.00218 - 0.832 - 1.35 - 1.8 - 2.18 - 2.5 - 2.81 - 3.07 - 3.31 - 3.53 - 3.75 - 3.95 - 4.15 - 4.32 - 4.47 - 4.61 - 4.74 Sv/h now

- #3:
-- temperature drop in main steam valve 2-86a (dark green bubble in plot):
--- from 144.5 centigrades before eq1 over 106.0 centigrades (eq2) to 103.5 centigrades now
-- water level core a drops:
--- eq1: from constantly -1700 mm (7/30 17:00) to -1900 mm (8/1 5:00)
--- eq2: from constantly -1700 mm (8/11 23:00) to -1800 mm now
-- water level core b drops:
--- eq1: sudden drop from constantly -2150 mm (7/30 23:00) to -2300 mm (7/31 11:00)
--- eq2: from 2200 mm (8/11 23:00) to -2100 mm (8/12 11:00)

- tepco data usually provides remarks to explain unusual readings, like instrument failures, electricity blackouts, power switchings, gauge replacings, recalibrations, false readings, etc, in each last column, or in the lowest row. however, there are no remarks since july 23. so there are no technical explanations.

interpretations:

- the decribed pressure, temperature and water level drops during the two last earthquakes are consistent with the now reported, probably highly radioactive "steams out of ground cracks". the earthquakes may have cracked underground parts of all 3 reactors esp. #1 and #2. #3 did not lose pressure. since nitrogen is injected into all 3 reactors, we would normally expect rising pressures.
- the desribed rad spikes in #1 drywell b are significantly higher since the last earthquakes. spikes never reached 300 Sv/h before. though the instrument has been reported as failure, there seem to be radioactive masses moving around and showing recriticality.
- the most significant anomaly happened in #2 drywell b. the radiation rose since eq1 and dropped suddenly within 6 hours from 15.7 to 0.00207 Sv/h during eq2. the only rational explanation would be a movement of radioactive masses and a leaking of the masses away from the instrument. radioactive particles may have escaped through the cracks with the steam.
- there have been reported more radioactive leaks with readings over 10 Sv/h. #3 has no radiation readings over 3.7 Sv/h. #1 has low radiation readings (~0.7 Sv/h) aside from drywell b (27-371 Sv/h). #2 readings are around 6 (torus b), 10 (drywell a) and 15 (drwell b before eq2) Sv/h.
- if there is a realease of steam with rad levels over 10 MSv/h, it can only stem from #1 drywell or #2 drywell and torus through cracks in the containment and ground fissures, since steam rising from the soil outside the reactors is reported.
- the described anomalies are unique in the latest history (since april/may) and arise concerns about the integrity of the concrete buildings.

with love, Edano

@Edano wow....what else can I say that is soom impressive data there

@elainekirk for some reason I find that tepco illustration you posted really silly. Makes me want to make stick figure illustrations of the TEPCO roadmap

@elainekirk did you catch this one he did? thecable.foreignpolicy.com

@Edano
yes saved it. Will probably try working on putting it into an article tonight. My brain needs a break from Hanford for a bit

@elainekirk the translation is hard to understand I think someone was trying to change 100 mSv to 10 mSv and dropped the v in one of the sentences. Who is stating the change or mistake in numbers I can't sort out.

@elainekirk Man I hope that is enough to get him to step down

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@dean @lillymunster I have tried to fathom sunny's and it must mean that iodine is still being emitted

@edano, all the TEPCO csv links, what did you want me to do with those?

So cite them as your sources? I thought those were the raw feeds for the charts so wasn't sure.

@lillymunster yes, they are the raw data and the sources for the plots and the single values i extracted from them.