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@ lilly, by now I would have expected the corium to be in some fixed location however, the weight of it against weakened or weakening structures along with the many many EQ's following could have been just what was needed to cause a structural settling or failure within the area monitored by the radiation detectors and pressure monitors. When they enter the buildings again the rad readings will be interesting to see what has happened
by dean 8/16/2011 12:25:18 PM

Hi @all I agree that the 'huge pool on the basement floor of Fukushima' in those unconfirmed reports most likely refers to the Common Spent Fuel Pool which, as we know and have seen via the live tepcam stream, has been steaming away for quite some time now.
@dean Surely there exists remote sensing and imaging technology that would give us a good picture of where the corium's at? I've seen archeological sites fairly accurately mapped out using magnetometers prior to any digging and can't believe no-one's looking at the molten fuel in this kind of way.
by es 8/16/2011 12:25:53 PM

@es.. hi es, I'm sure they have high tech instruments etc but so far access to those areas deep inside the building have been to dangerous to enter, the robots have done the best but thus far even they are limited to walk around down by the torus/drywell/control drive area below the core. A good thermal mapping or imaging from the helicopter or plane would be nice now to map out the thermal hot spots around the buildings or changes in the building,, ,I would be ordering that done today if I were there
by dean 8/16/2011 12:29:17 PM

fukushimaemergencywhatcanwedo.blogspot.com @ lilly are you familiar with this link?
by dean 8/16/2011 12:31:24 PM

@dean never seen the link before
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 12:32:16 PM

fukushimaemergencywhatcanwedo.blogspot.com TEPCO BEING charged with felonies
by dean 8/16/2011 12:34:31 PM

it's pretty informative @ lilly.. I just bumped into it
by dean 8/16/2011 12:34:44 PM

I will see if Rockhopper can ask some of the workers for confirmation on some of this. Fukushima-diary and the link Dean just posted are setting off my suspicions on their objectivity or reliability. Will do some background on who runs the sites.
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 12:35:37 PM

@dean Thanks. There's some pretty sensitive equipment out there which I suspect wouldn't need direct access inside the reactor buildings to give fairly detailed info on the corium's whereabouts. I'd love to see the latest thermo-shots too :)
by es 8/16/2011 12:36:54 PM

Heh. The fukushimaemergency site lifted an article Ex-SKF wrote (ie took his article) and printed it has their own work.
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 12:37:38 PM

it's worth looking into lilly, not good to lift articles
by dean 8/16/2011 12:39:36 PM

I'm book marking it just to keep and eye out...
by dean 8/16/2011 12:40:02 PM

This is who runs fukushima-diary.com
Administrative Contact:
Boyce, Edward edboyce@bu.edu
81 Haynes Hill Road
Wales, Massachusetts 01080
United States
(413) 245-3997
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 12:40:50 PM

@dean I let the original author know.
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 12:41:09 PM

how about the name citizenperth.. it's on there also
by dean 8/16/2011 12:44:22 PM

from australia
by dean 8/16/2011 12:44:29 PM

Neither site looks like one of the conspiracy generator sites but I would take anything with a grain of salt and look for confirmation elsewhere. I checked the owner of that other site, citizenperth. It comes up with some guy in Austrailia that says he works in Education.
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 12:45:25 PM

@Dean, does the current situation at Fuku make doing the hole boring & camera thing impossible? I wasn't sure if the water or high rad levels would make it impossible. Is there some sort of fiberoptic camera they could stuff down into the drywell if they drilled a direct hole?
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 12:47:20 PM

@ lilly, I think boring a hole would not be a monumental task from outside the building. It was done at chernobyl and where our photos of the corium there came from. there are several sites where I would think they could penetrate and then probe with the fiber optics camera
by dean 8/16/2011 12:50:02 PM

Can China trying to blame Fukushima for the radiaction it's atomic submarine radioactive liking in the China sea ???? Radioactive materials from Japan found in China's waters. China's State Oceanic Administration (SOA) said last Friday (Aug 12) that waters in China have been affected by the radioactive materials leaked from the crippled nuclear power plant in Fukushima.
Last month, the SOA said in a statement that the level of cesium-137 in samples collected from western Pacific waters is 300 times the usual level, and strontium-90 10 times .http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?cid=1105&MainCatID=11&id=20110815000036
by Majj 8/16/2011 12:50:45 PM

there also should be ground level instruments like "es" mentioned that would detect underground temps.. or test wells etc.
by dean 8/16/2011 12:51:03 PM

I need to prepare for work,, will return in a bit ty to all for the posts and updates
by dean 8/16/2011 12:56:27 PM

@dean One of the workers mentioned digging test holes as information gathering towards installing the underground barrier wall.
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 1:05:46 PM

@all, Rockhopper had a really good idea. She suggested if we can find a way to translate some of these more unbiased studies/journal papers into Japanese it would help get factual information into the hands of more people. The language gap is a big problem. My thought was we take all these radiation risk papers we have been findings, copy them into a blog page for each one and put the translate tool that I added to our site on it so people could then read the studies in Japanese for themselves. It seems that this kind of information just isn't readily available to people there. I could feed all of this into a small "sister site" to simplyinfo.
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 1:10:40 PM

20 year extension for Seabrook NPP being challenged by groups www.seacoastonline.com
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 1:12:43 PM

Theater group does Waiting For Godot in the exclusion zone. blogs.wsj.com
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 1:18:46 PM

Top Michelin restaurant helps child evacuees from Fukushima bake 'world's safest cookies'[15 August, 2011]: mdn.mainichi.jp

Note:"The cookies will be labeled "the world's safest cookies" because of their use of ingredients that cleared screenings for radioactive materials."
by es 8/16/2011 1:21:58 PM

by Majj 8/16/2011 1:22:44 PM

@Dean, can you watch the video when you have some free time? I am not sure if the scales he is talking about are as high as it sounds. Want to make sure thi s is right before passing it on or putting it on the group site.
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 1:37:58 PM

Excessive levels of radioactive cesium found 100 km from plant

FUKUSHIMA, Japan, Aug. 16, Kyodo

Excessive levels of radioactive cesium were found in sludge in a ditch at a district court branch in Fukushima Prefecture, about 100 kilometers west of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, the court said Tuesday.

The isotope in the sludge, sampled from a ditch at the Fukushima District Court's Aizuwakamatsu branch, measured about 186,000 becquerels per kilogram, the court said, adding it plans to remove the sludge after consulting with local governments.

Under government standards, sludge can be used in a landfill as long as the radioactive cesium contained in it measures 8,000 becquerels per kilogram or lower.
english.kyodonews.jp
by bo 8/16/2011 1:39:30 PM

Evacuees to visit homes within 3 km of Fukushima nuclear plant

FUKUSHIMA (Kyodo) -- The government will allow evacuees from areas within 3 kilometers of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant to visit their homes temporarily on Aug. 26 and Sept. 1, officials of the Futaba and Okuma town offices in Fukushima Prefecture said Monday.

A total of 89 households in the Koriyama and Hosoya districts in Futaba will be permitted to visit their homes on Aug. 26, while the Sept. 1 visit is slated for 239 households in the Ottozawa and Koirino districts in Okuma, the officials said. mdn.mainichi.jp
by bo 8/16/2011 1:43:07 PM

Back in Tokyo,,,
July, including travel and business trips abroad, Kansai, Tokyo was not even a week. In the meantime, and chest pain, throat discomfort was gone. But back to Tokyo, you will see the same symptoms and about two days. And chest pain, and discomfort in the back of the throat. And even dry cough,.
The value of the air, I have fallen to about 0.095, has remained at an average room of about 0.147. Even if the cliff pretty 下Garimasen rag. I have accumulated radioactive dust in the room evenly to all. translate.google.com
by Majj 8/16/2011 1:44:33 PM

Hiroaki Koide die within 2 weeks and the dose of 10 mSv January 8 (MBS)

August 01, 2011 (Monday), MBS (MBS) radio, "Journal of sowing", and Mr. Koide Hiroaki (Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute, Assistant Professor) has been cast. translate.google.com
by Majj 8/16/2011 1:46:16 PM

Video from the link below , if you click on the CC button in the bottom right of the YouTube screen you can get captions on your native tong :-)
by Majj 8/16/2011 1:51:37 PM

Jake Adelstein has a really good article about politics and the yakuza thecable.foreignpolicy.com
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 1:59:59 PM

Cars with Fukushima plate being graffitied at Disneyland Tokyo - The suspects then I'll present the rubble near the Air Unit 3 reactor building. @ akarisou: Disneyland, or a number is divided glass Fukushima, a spray, "go home" graffiti and has been Tareri. Please. You ask. Please observe the Fukushima. Please spread it. "
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 2:03:32 PM

This one is a little close to home, first found in Shimane prefecture, just north of Hiroshima:

Radioactive Manure from Cows That Ate Radioactive Rice Hay ex-skf.blogspot.com
by bo 8/16/2011 2:11:04 PM

Couple month ago when you did a youtube search Fukushima "Unit 3" you'd get tons of returns with the explosion visible. Nowadays you get a couple : www.youtube.com Japanese media are slowly but surely flagging down almost all footage of the explosions. A couple that remain have Australian media logos.
by Ian 8/16/2011 2:23:56 PM

by Ian 8/16/2011 2:25:14 PM

@Ian I downloaded as many as I could find a few months ago. Probably a good idea for people to download copies of any of the critical videos due to this.
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 2:35:30 PM

@bo "But since the numbers at the manure manufacturing depots are low enough, it will probably be sold to other farms to be used in their fields, thus spreading the low-level contamination all over Niigata. In the eyes of the government and producers, they are "safe" as long as the numbers are below the arbitrary safety limit number that the government picked after the fact. Testing by sampling one or two farms in a city will be enough for them. "

::headdesk::
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 2:37:58 PM

New cesium removal system (Sarry) is now being tested but, in the meantime, water decontamination process is halted.
jen.jiji.com
by tomo-kun 8/16/2011 2:51:45 PM

@tomo-kun I hope Sarry works better than the Areva one has.
by lillymunster 8/16/2011 2:53:55 PM

@lilly, what I've noticed is the DMCA flags seem to be directed mostly at high-view videos. There were once many that had far more views that mine did, but now the remaining I've found usually only have a few hundred or under 2000 views. This would be a logical way to do a censoring campaign. They'll never be able to censor them all, but the flagging of mine is really hard to believe, it's such an obvious example of Fair Use.
by Ian 8/16/2011 2:58:35 PM

@Edano The content you quoted saying "That’s there is a huge pool on the basement floor of Fukushima,which is shared by units 1~4. They stock 6400 nuclear spent fuel rods in it." That sounds wrong for sure!
by Ian 8/16/2011 3:02:56 PM