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  • lol @ Radio... nice to see you
    by dean 8/16/2011 5:53:56 PM

  • You too. Things should settle down a little now that Summer's drawing to a close... what there was of it. We largely missed it in the Bay Area... second year in a row. Preferable to 114 degrees, I guess.
    by RadioGuy 8/16/2011 5:58:56 PM

  • @dean thatll give you street cred
    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 5:59:57 PM

  • flyingcuttlefish.wordpress.com @ elaine/lilly. have you seen this? the photo with simplyinfo on it
    by dean 8/16/2011 6:00:13 PM

  • Dean, I think that gets you 1000 internet cred points. ;-)
    by lillymunster 8/16/2011 6:12:29 PM

  • time to head out and prepare for training.. be back later
    by dean 8/16/2011 6:12:32 PM

  • @dean @lillymunster fantastic
    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 6:21:30 PM

  • who found the cracks fukushima-diary.com link was it @edano? whoever it was gets
    points
    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 6:23:26 PM

  • @elainekirk : it was @Maji !!!
    by Edano 8/16/2011 6:23:48 PM

  • @Edano everybody gets coffee and cakes because everybody is magic :)
    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 6:25:05 PM

  • @Maji
    by Edano 8/16/2011 6:26:02 PM

  • @elainekirk Magic yay!
    by ariadne 8/16/2011 6:31:39 PM

  • @Edano Magical @Majj
    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 6:36:02 PM

  • I am looking for the tunnel again to back that whistleblower story I do know that the extra storage is mentioned somewhere but the translate said it was in #4 and it was decided there wasnt room in 4 and it must be a bad translate so if I can find that too
    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 6:38:10 PM

  • LaLa time here is the tepco doc saying they tested daiichi to the strength of the kk quake and giving unit 1 results they say it is good www.tepco.co.jp
    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 6:44:56 PM

  • www.tepco.co.jp an 09 doc list of tepco confessionals
    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 7:03:41 PM

  • Residents frustrated by 'hot spot' designation
    www.yomiuri.co.jp
    by Panserbjorne9 8/16/2011 7:39:56 PM

  • Mainly about the cleanup especially the volunteer crews around around Minamisoma. No mention of the current status of the reactors.
    by hedge 8/16/2011 7:42:31 PM

  • Fukushima finally makes the main news in the UK. Channel 4 as normal: blogs.channel4.com
    by hedge 8/16/2011 7:42:34 PM

  • Hi @all
    by hudebnik 8/16/2011 7:47:33 PM

  • Might the cracks and steam finally explain the mysterious and repeated mainly nocturnal steam shows from the direction of #4 and the common spent fuel pool?
    by hudebnik 8/16/2011 7:49:02 PM

  • I thought you would all be interested in this Editorial in the Guardian newspaper (UK) today. It's worth quoting in full:

    After Fukushima: nuclear dirty tricks.
    After nearly half a century of producing nuclear power, Japan has finally separated regulation from promotion.

    The Japanese cabinet decided this week to transfer the country's nuclear safety agency from the trade ministry, where it nestled in a department also dedicated to the expansion of nuclear power, to the environment ministry, where, at least in theory, there is some chance that its operations will not be subverted or manipulated by Japanese energy firms. After nearly half a century of producing nuclear power, Japan has finally separated regulation from promotion, but the move may well have come too late to restore public trust.

    In a country where people have to use their own detectors to check on local radiation levels which the government failed to release, where information about threats to life and health after Fukushima dribbled out so haphazardly, and where a nuclear industry apparently unabashed by that disaster has been resorting to dirty tricks to influence public debate, mere bureaucratic rearrangement will hardly suffice. The latest blow to confidence came when it was reported last month that workers at the Kyushu Electric Power Company had been asked to pose as ordinary citizens with no connection to the industry and send emails calling for the resumption of operations at two nuclear reactors in southern Japan to a televised public hearing. Investigations showed this was standard behaviour long before Fukushima, with other power companies admitting that they had sent employees to make up as many as half of the participants in similar forums as far back as 2005.

    As if this were not bad enough, two of the utilities said they were urged to do so by the nuclear agency itself. It was this revelation which appears to have led to the decision to fire three top officials, including the head of the agency, and then to reorganise and move it.

    Japan's polarised industrial culture, which veers between the heedless pursuit of short- term interest, on the one hand, and confessions, tears, and apparently heartfelt apologies when things go wrong, on the other, makes it an extreme case. But the same factors are at work in every country that has a nuclear industry. The impulse to minimise the inherent risks of the most dangerous technology man has ever tried to master, the tendency to conceal or downplay accidents, the assertion that each succeeding generation of plants is foolproof and super safe, and the presumption, so often proved wrong by events, that every contingency has been provided for, all these have been evident again and again. Angela Merkel, one of the few leading politicians who is also a scientist, saw the writing on the wall. Her decision to phase out nuclear power has revived a global debate which has been dormant for far too long.
    by hudebnik 8/16/2011 7:51:25 PM

  • Back later.
    by hudebnik 8/16/2011 7:55:19 PM

  • @hudebnik ty have you seen the new pin?
    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 8:01:35 PM

  • these are a set of pics @Majj has found from the self defence force in the early days and I was curious about the black curved object

    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 8:03:05 PM

  • english.kyodonews.jp
    Excessive levels of radioactive cesium were found in sludge in a ditch at a district court branch in Fukushima Prefecture, about 100 kilometers west of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, the court said Tuesday.

    The isotope in the sludge, sampled from a ditch at the Fukushima District Court's Aizuwakamatsu branch, measured about 186,000 becquerels per kilogram, the court said, adding it plans to remove the sludge after consulting with local governments.
    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 8:13:55 PM

  • I looked at that pic and tried messing around in PHotoshop with it. I can't figure out what it is or get a better look at it. Don't remember that from other photos
    by lillymunster 8/16/2011 8:14:36 PM

  • back
    by dean 8/16/2011 8:29:46 PM

  • yeah.. 1000 points @ lilly
    by dean 8/16/2011 8:30:17 PM

  • @lillymunster if you look at @Majj's facebook he has loads which will be why he couldnt post them here they are in his self defence force album he has flagged you in them
    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 8:34:56 PM

  • @dean what is your opinion of the steaming ground
    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 8:35:34 PM

  • @ elaine.. is flagging appropriate?
    by dean 8/16/2011 8:44:25 PM

  • I think there is something that happened with the clues of the tritium perhaps and then the report, but we need to confirm it from your sources @ elaine
    by dean 8/16/2011 8:45:01 PM

  • Edano and I agreed without knowing we agreed.. so I think we are on the same track
    by dean 8/16/2011 8:47:34 PM

  • time for training.. will be back
    by dean 8/16/2011 8:53:47 PM

  • @dean have fun :)
    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 8:57:40 PM

  • The Japanese Government and Nuclear Power. A Meltdown of Trust
    bigthink.com
    by Panserbjorne9 8/16/2011 9:07:23 PM

  • @lilly @all The llrc.org site has a good summary of Chernobyl effects, which we might want to put up on SimplyInfo. The url is only llrc.org, though, whatever the page. To find the summary page click on Chernobyl in the menu on the left, and then the "See also this summary" link right before the main text starts. I think at the very least, directing people to this site would be good. They also have lots of links to scientific articles, and a free link and download for the full New York Academy of Sciences 335 page book on Chernobyl (which is now out of print).
    by ariadne 8/16/2011 9:19:58 PM

  • by ariadne 8/16/2011 9:20:23 PM

  • @Panserbjorne9 @ariadne these are great you are having more success than I am with my hunting
    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 9:26:59 PM

  • CERRIE Majority Report says
    Dose is meaningless

    ..... There are important concerns with respect to the heterogeneity of dose delivery within tissues and cells from short-range charged particle emissions, the extent to which current models adequately represent such interactions with biological targets, and the specification of target cells at risk. Indeed, the actual concepts of absorbed dose become questionable, and sometimes meaningless, when considering interactions at the cellular and molecular levels.

    (CERRIE Majority Report Chapter 2.1 paragraph 11).

    In other words, where hot or warm particles or Plutonium or Uranium are located in body tissue
    or where sequentially decaying radionuclides like Strontium 90 are organically bound (e.g. to DNA) “dose” means nothing.
    This is massively significant. Official radiation risk agencies universally quantify risk in terms of dose. If it means nothing the agencies know nothing and can give no valid advice.

    Their public reassurances fall to the ground. They can no longer compare nuclear industry discharges with the 2 millisieverts we get every year from natural radiation, or the cosmic rays you’d receive flying to Tenerife for a holiday. Under "dose concept" in menu www.llrc.org With links.
    by ariadne 8/16/2011 9:32:05 PM

  • #3 pre oblivion translate.google.com

    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 9:33:51 PM

  • @elainekirk I don't know, elaine, it seems you've been consistently a fabulous huntress! And I had help, I was directed to llrc.org by dean yesterday on this board. Feel free to hunt around on that site, it's big, and there's lots there. I think I need to go outside in the sunshine for a break....:)
    by ariadne 8/16/2011 9:34:51 PM

  • @ariadne enjoy the sunshine :)
    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 9:35:41 PM

  • thre is no wonder they couldnt sort the electrics out

    by elainekirk 8/16/2011 9:40:52 PM

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