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  • TEPCO to ditch faulty Kurion-AREVA equipment to rely solely on Toshiba (and IHI and US's Shaw)'s SARRY for highly contaminated water treatment.

    From Mainichi Shinbun (9/15/2011):

    東京電力は15日、福島第1原発事故で生じた高濃度の放射性物質を含む汚染水を浄化して原子炉の冷却に使う「循環注水冷却システム」で、米キュリオン社の装置によって下がった放射性物質の濃度が、続いて仏アレバ社の装置を通すと上がるトラブルが起きたと発表した。アレバ社の装置が処理する高濃度の汚泥が流出した可能性もあり、原因を調べている。現在は、アレバ社の装置は止め、キュリオン社の装置だけで処理している。

    TEPCO announced on September 15 that there was a trouble in the reactor cooling system that circulates water treated in the contaminated water treatment system. The density of radioactive materials that decreased after the treatment with Kurion's system increased after the treatment with AREVA's system. It is possible that highly radioactive sludge in AREVA's system leaked. TEPCO is investigating the cause. Currently, AREVA's system is stopped, and the treatment is done by Kurion's system alone.

    東電が同日、両社の装置の処理能力を確認したところ、キュリオン社単独では汚染水の放射性物質の濃度が1立方センチ当たり数百万ベクレルから数百ベクレルまで下がったが、その汚染水を続けてアレバ社の装置で処理すると、逆に数十万ベクレルに上がった。

    TEPCO looked at the treatment performance of both systems and found that Kurion's system had reduced the density of radioactive materials from several million becquerels/cubic centimeter to several hundred becquerels/cubic centimeter. However, when that treated water was further processed in AREVA's system, the density shot up to several hundred thousand becquerels/cubic centimeter.

    東電は10月以降、キュリオン社とアレバ社の装置を組み合わせた浄化システムを止め、比較的故障が少ない東芝製の別の浄化装置「サリー」で汚染水を浄化する方針だ。

    TEPCO plans to stop using Kurion-AREVA system starting October, and use Toshiba's SARRY exclusively for contaminated water treatment. SARRY has had a relatively small number of failures compared to Kurion's or AREVA's system
    Source: mainichi.jp mainichi.jp www.scoop.it

    by Edano 9/16/2011 5:45:48 PM

  • Fukushima Prefecture Bans Wild Mushroom Shipments - Tkahagi and Ibaraki also find contamination
    Fukushima Prefecture Bans Wild Mushroom Shipments - Tkahagi and Ibaraki also find contamination | Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear News | Scoop.it

    The ban on wild mushroom shipments from 43 Fukushima Prefecture municipalities announced on Sept. 15, paired with widespread radiation fears, is discouraging pickers from their usual mushroom-hunting trips into the woods. .......
    mdn.mainichi.jp www.scoop.it
    by Edano 9/16/2011 5:48:15 PM

  • @Edano they should never have allowed mushrooms there is enough evidence that they are easily contaminated
    by elainekirk 9/16/2011 5:54:45 PM

  • @elainekirk well, i think they are wild, in the forests ...
    by Edano 9/16/2011 6:03:57 PM

  • @Edano
    they could have alerted people from the outset not to pick or eat them Germany still don't.
    It is stupid how many people jobless and possibly homeless after the events of march have been supplementing their diet with radioctive mushrooms they can pick for free
    What happens in Germany is the message not to pick/eat mushrooms regularly repeated? do children know not to pick them?
    by elainekirk 9/16/2011 6:15:31 PM

  • @elainekirk i really don't know. i live in berlin and we have no contamination problems here. maybe they make local announcements in bavaria.
    by Edano 9/16/2011 6:21:37 PM

  • the thyroid risk was known and they could have been pro-active
    the mushrooms were a known risk and they could have been proactive
    the schools were a known risk.....
    they just basically followed tepco's instructions didnt they?
    by elainekirk 9/16/2011 6:30:31 PM

  • @elainekirk yes, of course, same as with beef.
    by Edano 9/16/2011 6:31:20 PM

  • i guess it's a problem with the industry/economy connected to it. in germany we never had any mushroom industry, but japan has.
    by Edano 9/16/2011 6:33:59 PM

  • but they can forget the shrooms now for at least 50 years.
    by Edano 9/16/2011 6:34:29 PM

  • elaine, as to 'shroom collection in Bavaria, I found this webpage: www.br-online.de . I hope you can translate it with google. If not I try help, but have to run in a minute and may not get it done before.
    by Peter 9/16/2011 6:36:13 PM

  • not only fuku mushrooms. everything north of tokyo will be toxic.
    by Edano 9/16/2011 6:36:38 PM

  • The important part for us is this parapgraph:Radioaktivität: Strahlenbelastung nach Tschernobyl

    Bildunterschrift: Pfifferlinge
    Noch immer sind viele Pilze mit Cäsium 137 belastet, eine Folge des Reaktorunfalls von Tschernobyl. Doch nicht bei jedem Pilz sind die Grenzwerte überschritten. Einige speichern das Cäsium besser (hoch belastet: Marone und Semmelstoppelpilz) als andere (gering belastet: Steinpilz und Pfifferlinge). Die bayerische Forstverwaltung hat die Faustformel herausgegeben: Zwei Pilzmahlzeiten pro Woche à 200 Gramm Speisepilze sind unbedenklich.
    by Peter 9/16/2011 6:37:14 PM

  • who was advising the gov because they didnt act in a logical manner at all , logic would have been play safe assume the worst case scenario act on that and if something/where is found to be safe then declare it safe . They have killed trade and trust with the lets ignore it policy
    by elainekirk 9/16/2011 6:37:50 PM

  • @Peter ty running it through translate now
    by elainekirk 9/16/2011 6:38:14 PM

  • @Peter that is a very sensible approach
    by elainekirk 9/16/2011 6:39:11 PM

  • i wouldn't trust bavarian government, it is the most conservative and industry orientated in germany. better ask greenpeace.
    by Edano 9/16/2011 6:41:24 PM

  • It says: Still mushrooms are contaminated with cesium-137 as a result of the reactor accident in Chernobyl. But not all exceed limits. Some (high: Marone and Semmelstoppelpilz) accumulate cesium better than others (low: Steinpilze and Pfifferlinge). The Bavarian Forestry Service recommends the following rule of thumb: Two meals per week comprising 200 g mushrooms are considered harmless. (it is not quite verbatim, but you get the idea).
    by Peter 9/16/2011 6:44:37 PM

  • no immediate .....
    by Edano 9/16/2011 6:45:28 PM

  • @Edano , that is what they suggest. I guess there are no binding rules for private mushroom collectors in Bavaria.
    by Peter 9/16/2011 6:47:30 PM

  • @Peter but the public seem to be given ennough info to make decisions in Bavaria
    by elainekirk 9/16/2011 6:54:34 PM

  • by Edano via Environmental-studies.de 9/16/2011 7:17:41 PM

  • Radioaktiv verseuchte Pilze im deutschen Handel entdeckt
    Radioactively contaminated mushrooms discovered in the German trade
    www.berlin.de translate.google.de
    by Edano 9/16/2011 7:21:38 PM

  • www.br-online.de nearly no changes over the decades

    by Edano via Br-online.de 9/16/2011 7:24:37 PM

  • by Edano via Br-online.de 9/16/2011 7:25:06 PM

  • cesium 137 seems to be a very nasty problem.
    by Edano 9/16/2011 7:25:50 PM

  • @all Hello! Just popping in for a short bit...I ran across this video animation of radiation releases from the early days of the Fukushima crisis...found it interesting www.rchoetzlein.com
    by smoss 9/16/2011 7:38:29 PM

  • @smoss greetings smoss
    by elainekirk 9/16/2011 7:39:50 PM

  • @Edano where is that edano?
    by elainekirk 9/16/2011 7:40:18 PM

  • @elainekirk Will have to say "hi" and "bye" in the same sentence...Be Well!
    by smoss 9/16/2011 7:52:42 PM

  • @smoss you too have a good w/end
    by elainekirk 9/16/2011 7:58:52 PM

  • Type: Earthquake
    37 minutes ago
    Magnitude: 6.6
    DateTime: Friday September 16 2011, 19:26:42 UTC
    www.tsunamioftears.com

    Region: near the east coast of Honshu, Japan
    Depth: 36.3 km

    by Deb via Tsunamioftears 9/16/2011 8:05:22 PM

  • From: Pilze und Wild: Tschernobyl - Umweltinstitut Muenchen e.V.
    www.google.com
    "Cäsium-137 bleibt je nach Person 40 bis 200 Tage im Körper (biologische Halbwertzeit) – berücksichtigt man dies, so führt der Genuss einer Pilzmahlzeit von 500 Gramm mit 3000 Bq/kg Cäsium-137 zur gleichen Belastung wie einmal Röntgen der Lunge (0,02-0,05 mSv)."

    Depending on the individual, Cesium-137 remains in the body from 40 to 200 days (biological half-life). Taking this biological half life into consideration, one 500-g meal of mushrooms containing 3000 Bq/kg cesium-137 will result in an effective absorbed dose equivalent to that of one lung x-ray (0.02-0.05 milliSv [or 20 to 50 microSv or a 1 to 2 hour-stay in the Fukushima exclusion zone, ed.]).
    by Peter 9/16/2011 8:05:27 PM

  • @Peter that is a sobering comparison
    by elainekirk 9/16/2011 8:07:22 PM

  • @Deb was anyone watching the cam?
    by elainekirk 9/16/2011 8:08:00 PM

  • @elainekirk Sadly, I was not..but this is what it looks like right now www.tsunamioftears.com

    by Deb via Tsunamioftears 9/16/2011 8:09:07 PM

  • @Deb just too beautiful so sad
    by elainekirk 9/16/2011 8:18:20 PM

  • @elainekirk , perhaps we should try translate this document from the Umweltinstitut Muenchen (Institute for the Environment Muenich). The institute seems a government-independent organization and the doc contains helpful information, though I do not like comparisons between internal and external exposure much.
    by Peter 9/16/2011 8:18:26 PM

  • @Edano , the stuff seems to hang with them maroni and them boars!
    by Peter 9/16/2011 8:20:55 PM

  • @Peter good idea I will try that later cant at moment too many distractions but when things settle down
    by elainekirk 9/16/2011 8:31:56 PM

  • @elainekirk , the google translation of this document: translate.google.com
    by Peter 9/16/2011 8:42:21 PM

  • back finally, what did I miss? :-)
    by lillymunster 9/16/2011 8:50:39 PM

  • wow. Looks like I have some homework :-)
    by lillymunster 9/16/2011 8:57:36 PM

  • @Peter ty peter
    by elainekirk 9/16/2011 8:57:47 PM

  • @lillymunster you got the complete iaea report from goj to read L)
    by elainekirk 9/16/2011 8:58:18 PM

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