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@Ian I have a couple of shots of the reactor cap carousel thingy hanging off the edge. Let me see if I can dig one up
by lillymunster 9/24/2011 11:12:36 PM

farm6.static.flickr.com here's the wreck of the reactor cap fitting carousel fitzgerald
by artnuke via Farm6.static.flickr 9/24/2011 11:13:40 PM

RPV cap machine
by lillymunster 9/24/2011 11:14:11 PM

farm6.static.flickr.com stereo shot of the teapot spout, fitting cap is in lower right. Can't see any of the red cesium color at this date. I've not seen any press report that the steam is full of cesium and iodine, only that "the containments are still good". Riiiight.
by artnuke via Farm6.static.flickr 9/24/2011 11:16:02 PM

You get the stereo shot of taking two stills of a helicopter pan. As long as they don't zoom that makes a valid stereo shot, you folks should go back and make some more. It will also work with that new roof shot since the camera moves back and forth. I put these up on Asianweek but nobody reads that except real surfer nuts.
by artnuke 9/24/2011 11:17:45 PM

farm6.static.flickr.com here's the scribble photo archive shot comparing the size of the hole to trucks. That's about how big the refueling platform is - the size of a bus.
by artnuke via Farm6.static.flickr 9/24/2011 11:19:33 PM

farm4.static.flickr.com shot showing holes in roof vs sfp on unit 3
by artnuke via Farm4.static.flickr 9/24/2011 11:21:07 PM

i think the blue tube sticking out ur corner at 1 o clock is that suppression vent they were talking about. Or not? I haven't seen anybody notice the stack duct at upper left is obviously broken either.
by artnuke 9/24/2011 11:22:44 PM

the fitting caroussel from north ?
by Edano 9/24/2011 11:29:50 PM

zoomed
by Edano 9/24/2011 11:31:22 PM

SALA network is asking for international signatures on their petition to stop the mass culling of pets in the evacuation zone. Govt. officials have prevented animal rescue groups from going into the zone, slowing their work, they sneak in anyways. Now instead of helping remove animals they are going in and culling them. From what I have been told by multiple groups they are not doing it in any sort of humane manner. Using poison was the main one mentioned. International embarrassment is about the only tool left to get the rescue groups in the zone. sec19.alpha-lt.net
by lillymunster 9/24/2011 11:32:18 PM

@Edano That's the top of the crane beam. Lilly thought it was the top of the reactor well. Now that I've got this scribble thing figured out I can show some of the stuff that I noticed. Lots of people thought they saw an open reactor well mouth, but seems to be illusions and steam cloud patterns.
by artnuke 9/24/2011 11:35:43 PM

@artnuke, those straight tracks of fine sand-grain debris across the roof top of the adjacent building are remarkable! You've noted them before. My full model is three-phase and one being when the upper-deck hydrogen exploded. Note the low white clouds in the Unit 3 explosion, they are that phase I believe, and thus they look like the Unit 1 blast, and they would've projected pulverized wall debris like those straight lines. But I wonder why there's a gap between the sand-debris lines? Ie, why, it seems, did some wall panel not pulverize like the ones that made the straight-line streaks? So maybe pulverized wall panels isn't the right theory. ??
by Ian 9/24/2011 11:40:05 PM

farm4.static.flickr.com Drone shot of blown out northwest corner of refueling floor. I've not seen anybody describe the extent of the damage to this section, the entire vertical pillar is gone, the walls are blown out to the elevator shaft, and the top pillars above the floor with the crane track (top 2 squares) fell down hanging by rebar. This is way beyond any tornado blow-out panel feature that unit 1 might have had as the walls are reinforced concrete, right? The pillars are pretty massive, normally you'd have to put a charge right on the pillar to sever it in a demolition. If the walls were strong enough, they could have pulled out the pillar with them. The missing pillar should not be far away in the debris field, but they probably carted it away by now.
by artnuke via Farm4.static.flickr 9/24/2011 11:41:01 PM

no explanation I've seen yet for assymetry of blast - east side pillars are still up but west ones went down. The elevaor shaft which crosses all of the floors is on the west side, and that seems to be the biggest assymetry of the building. That secondary containment failure paper is what alerted me to the existence of that fuel elevator shaft, it's the big square hole you see to the west of the SFP.
by artnuke 9/24/2011 11:44:15 PM

interesting the debris seems to show a blast that follows a linear front, not a point source, that would give a Mr. sun pattern of rays in all directions, not straight down the picture. I tried matching the video to the sound track of the explosions (three distinct booms) , you have to subtract lag for camera distance but the booms did not map to anything obvious on the explosions.
by artnuke 9/24/2011 11:47:09 PM

i read crane 3 was in operation when the quake it, the hook fell off. If power went out, how did the operator get out? The operator in plant 2 was the one who died of injuries.
by artnuke 9/24/2011 11:49:06 PM

@artnuke, imo, the extra-deep NW damage is not a mystery. Watching the initial blast, clearly the NW plume ejecta is much lower than the right / south-side plume. This fits with the lower-than-floor-level steam ejection at the NW corner of the well-cap that we've viewed today. My model www.iangoddard.com accommodates the unique lower-down steam ejection from the well-cap's NW side, and we infer that the NW well-cap plume simply ejected in part into the lower 4th-floor space taking out the NW corner to a lower level. The NW-rim ejection and NW-building damage line up and point to explosive forces from the primary containment.
by Ian 9/25/2011 1:20:14 AM

g'night all
by elainekirk 9/25/2011 2:52:40 AM

Goodnight to you, @inestimableelainekirk :)
by M.I.A. 9/25/2011 2:56:23 AM

farm3.static.flickr.com here is my attempt to map the blueprints to the above view picture for floor plan
by artnuke via Farm3.static.flickr 9/25/2011 5:06:27 AM

farm6.static.flickr.com another shot going by the equipment pool 3D crosseye stereo pair. Note the round "hoop" structure
by artnuke via Farm6.static.flickr 9/25/2011 5:08:48 AM

farm6.static.flickr.com What is this floorplan? Equipment pool is different from the long one in 1 and 3.
by artnuke via Farm6.static.flickr 9/25/2011 5:13:45 AM

farm6.static.flickr.com This is the overhead shot unit 3 that looks like an open reactor well, but it is probably just the side of the crane, 2D crosseye pair
by artnuke via Farm6.static.flickr 9/25/2011 5:16:53 AM

farm4.static.flickr.com another shot showing how columns fell over
by artnuke via Farm4.static.flickr 9/25/2011 5:27:34 AM

farm7.static.flickr.com zoom in on that shot and you can see the fitting cap and equipment pool wall, side of crane, and elevator shaft rabbit hole. Any stairwell that used to be in the corner is gone. In the big shot, good view of broken pipe to smokestack at right side of the building. Do you think hydrogen blew up inside or it was shattered by the steam explosion?
by artnuke via Farm7.static.flickr 9/25/2011 5:33:54 AM

farm3.static.flickr.com here is the still shot of what looks like a blown out tube, it is bent over like an arch with on side flayed out in triangular shape, other side is tied to some square thing, either h2 explosion, or prompt critical. it may be the right size for a fuel rod but the thing it is tied to doesn't look like part of a fuel assembly.
by artnuke via Farm3.static.flickr 9/25/2011 5:43:36 AM

@artnuke, the new video shows the reactor-well cap in place, no doubt about it! So any old photos that look like they show an open reactor well aren't showing that.
by Ian 9/25/2011 5:46:05 AM

@artnuke, the SFP3 object is just a wire coming right out of an electric-junction box.
by Ian 9/25/2011 5:49:20 AM

farm7.static.flickr.com TEPCO handout with still showing cesium stain where steam was coming out (and still steaming slightly) I don't think that's a junction box but somebody on this board should be able to figure out what it is. Definitely some sort of violent internal explosion, not that I've ever blown up anything in a tube myself.....
by artnuke via Farm7.static.flickr 9/25/2011 5:52:57 AM

@artnuke, they certianly picked a logical place for Sample point 3, right in the cesium-vapor-residue spot. The test results should be interesting, and published soon I hope.
by Ian 9/25/2011 5:57:55 AM

Hixson video of unit #2. Good shot of crane from below through that open wall panel, and how crane fits on track. Lots of steam coming up from some place. Steam coming out of nuclear reactor is a bad thing, it should be sealed, right? I'd be willing to bit that big red spot is one of those 4-10 sievert/hr killer spots and the entire roof is probably similarly contaminated. No way to get people to work up there. Wonder what radiation reading was at the camera.
by artnuke 9/25/2011 6:04:08 AM

longer tepco video
by artnuke 9/25/2011 6:04:58 AM

big crashing wave at 2:00 on cliff nearby the plant
by artnuke 9/25/2011 6:06:43 AM

jnn camera zooms in on cranes
by artnuke 9/25/2011 6:09:50 AM

If this map is right, it isn't going be good news for parents in Tokyo, the blue zone pretty much creeps right over Tokyo. The real number of casualties had better be more like the zero version than Busby's calculations otherwise a whole bunch of people are gong to want to move someplace.
by artnuke 9/25/2011 6:13:37 AM

OK, now I see from the floorplan below the section between the equipment pool and the reactor well is that little concave lens shaped secdtion that has parking spots laid out on the floor. It butts up right against the well cap, so it's definitely in place, but also definitely leaking steam like crazy.
by artnuke 9/25/2011 6:16:46 AM

mmm its morning
by elainekirk 9/25/2011 9:43:40 AM

food restrictions www.mhlw.go.jp it is headed mushrooms and chestnuts but it is pretty comprehensive across many foods including river and sea fish there is also an instruction to measure new points of the seabed which greatly expands the original test area www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 9/25/2011 10:41:42 AM

www.nrc.gov
Virginia Quake – NRC Actions
On August 23, central Virginia experienced a 5.8 earthquake on the Richter Scale with the epicenter in Mineral, Virginia, a few miles from the North Anna Nuclear Power Plant operated by Dominion Virginia Power. The plant safely shut down as designed and was powered by diesel generators for a few hours. The NRC monitored the situation, observed plant inspections and performed assessments of quake data. On August 29, the NRC dispatched an Augmented Inspection Team to the plant to further review the effects of the earthquake, the operators’ response and the plant staff’s activities to check equipment. On September 8, the NRC met with Dominion Power to discuss preliminary findings and future inspection plans. After the team is through, there will be a public meeting October 3 to discuss findings and a written report will follow. The NRC will ensure the plant is capable of continuing to operate safely before the agency will authorize restart of the reactors.
by elainekirk 9/25/2011 11:04:57 AM

Safety limit radioactive cesium in Fukushima rice

Radioactive cesium measuring just at the government-set safety limit has been detected in rice samples collected in an area in northeastern Fukushima Prefecture.

Officials say 500 becquerels per kilogram of cesium was found in a test on pre-harvest rice from Nihonmatsu City on Friday. The figure is the highest in such tests carried out for rice across the country.

Since the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in March, the central government has required that a 2-stage test for radiation be conducted before and after harvest.

Pre-harvest tests are currently being carried out in nine prefectures in Tohoku and Kanto regions.

Following the discovery of the high level radioactive cesium, the prefectural government has increased the number of places being tested within the city from 38 to about 300.

On Saturday, the Nihonmatsu City government held an emergency meeting with officials from the prefectural government.

As some farmers have already started to harvest their crop before the results became available, it was decided that they would store their crop ahead of the post-harvest tests.

Sunday, September 25, 2011 09:05 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jp
by Edano 9/25/2011 11:10:57 AM

@Edano reactive rather than pro active is never a good policy
by elainekirk 9/25/2011 11:15:49 AM

hi elaine, we face the sunday news blackout. :)
by Edano 9/25/2011 11:16:36 AM

@Edano sure do and I am gobsmacked by the food doc title talk about burying bad news
by elainekirk 9/25/2011 11:20:45 AM

I like this - the emergency situation means we can not have an exercise to test how we could cope with an emergency situation ......
pbadupws.nrc.gov
RE: REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT OF THE OCTOBER 18, 2011 FORT CALHOUN NUCLEAR STATION EVALUATED EXERCISE Dear Mr. McCabe, The F ort Calhoun Nuclear Station (FCNS) is requesting a one-time deferral from theNuclear Regulatory Commission of the 2011 Emergency Response Exercise whichincludes the FEMA evaluation of Offsite Response Organizations. We request thisdeferral until sometime in the year 2012 in accordance with 10 CPR 50.12. This deferral isnecessary due to the unprecedented ﬂooding conditions on the Missouri River. Plantpersonnel, as Well as offsite, state, local and federal agencies who are required toparticipate in the FCNS biennial emergency preparedness exercise are directly involved inresponse and recovery efforts associated With the Missouri River flooding in their ownjurisdictions. Flooding conditions have had a major impact on the emergency management agencies inNebraska and Iowa and their local communities. Continued support of ongoing efforts bythe affected offsite state, local and federal agencies is in the best interest of public safety and allows these agencies to fully focus on the flood conditions. For this reason, the State of Iowa supports Fort Calhoun Nuclear Station in their decisionto ask the NRC to postpone the graded exercise until the year 2012
by elainekirk via Home-education.biz 9/25/2011 11:24:02 AM