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@lillymunster you gotta laughby elainekirk 9/25/2011 5:17:19 PM- we know from the google searches that there are loads of pics we just need to nAarrow searches and that is what I am struggling with atmby elainekirk 9/25/2011 5:22:06 PM
@elainekirk images via tepco or from other sourcesby lillymunster 9/25/2011 5:22:58 PM
Hey, look at the caption! Now tepco tells us why this spot. i1214.photobucket.com
by Peter via I1214.photobucket 9/25/2011 5:25:37 PM- so they are just routing all the gases out of the stacks .... thanks for the confirmation tepcoby elainekirk 9/25/2011 5:32:06 PM
- @Peter I suppose that will help towards the great air readings they get around the plantby elainekirk 9/25/2011 5:32:57 PM
- Heres a hiccup with #2 containment doors from '04 translate.google.comby elainekirk 9/25/2011 5:33:34 PM
- pic of #3 internal organs translate.google.comby elainekirk 9/25/2011 5:41:46 PM
- do we know for sure they are venting out the stacks?by lillymunster 9/25/2011 5:48:47 PM
- @lillymunster dunno but why else connect the pipes up and the concentration of radiation makes it highly likelyby elainekirk 9/25/2011 5:56:31 PM
Ah, so the high-dose spot is at what's called the Standby Gas Treatment System (SGTS). Here's a paper on the SGTS www.isnatt.org It's an air-filtration system, exactly the system you'd expect to get clogged with any collected gaseous residue. That the staining is cesium-vapor residue is all the more obvious, and esp in light of the fact that both steam ejection spots around the #3 rim show the same-colored staining.by Ian 9/25/2011 6:51:21 PM- @Ian it will be interesting to watch the tbs cam in sunlight see if there is any sign of vapours atop those stacksby elainekirk 9/25/2011 6:58:21 PM
Hey I found something for Ian: brown 400-mSv/h soup in the basement of unit 2: i1214.photobucket.com i1214.photobucket.com
by Peter via I1214.photobucket 9/25/2011 7:20:09 PM
Hey I found something for Ian: brown 400-mSv/h soup in the basement of unit 2: i1214.photobucket.com i1214.photobucket.com
by Peter via I1214.photobucket 9/25/2011 7:20:09 PM- @Peter oh grief had forgotten how horrendous that wasby elainekirk 9/25/2011 7:21:36 PM
Speedi in Futaba measures 30 ySv/hr. www.bousai.ne.jp just for comparing.by Edano 9/25/2011 7:28:09 PM- Oh I had forgotten about that. I think 3 had alien green sludge, makes me wonder if the hydrazine they are injecting created that. All the other standing water in the reactors is that rusty colorby lillymunster 9/25/2011 7:28:24 PM
- More explanation on the stack bottom between Units 1 and 2: i1214.photobucket.comby Peter 9/25/2011 7:30:42 PM
- @lillymunster #3 has mox that may explain colorby elainekirk 9/25/2011 7:42:26 PM
There should have been a photo with caption. We know the pic, but not the explanation. I try again. i1214.photobucket.com
by Peter via I1214.photobucket 9/25/2011 7:52:13 PM- Pronuclear plant incumbent reelected Kaminoseki mayor
YAMAGUCHI, Japan, Sept. 25, Kyodo
The incumbent mayor of Kaminoseki in Yamaguchi Prefecture, where a regional utility's plan to build a nuclear power plant is at issue, was reelected Sunday as an advocate of the plan, defeating an antinuclear challenger.
Shigemi Kashiwabara, 62, the two-term mayor of the town who supports the construction project, defeated Sadao Yamato, 61, who heads a civic group opposed to Chugoku Electric Power Co.'s plan to build the Kaminoseki nuclear power station.
The election, in which the polls closed at 8 p.m., was the first to be held to select the head of a municipality where a new nuclear power plant is being planned in the wake of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster triggered by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami. english.kyodonews.jpby Edano 9/25/2011 7:54:50 PM - ...and here is another one we wondered what the gist was: i1214.photobucket.comby Peter 9/25/2011 8:00:34 PM
I try again: i1214.photobucket.com
by Peter via I1214.photobucket 9/25/2011 8:06:05 PM- aha! STACK DRAIN!by Peter 9/25/2011 8:07:36 PM
- @Peter so condensation drips down thereby elainekirk 9/25/2011 8:15:21 PM
- OH tut tut I don't think this transgression has come to our attention before translate.google.comby elainekirk 9/25/2011 8:26:54 PM
- of course all the casks onsite will be genuine won't they .. I mean to say they are only going to cheat when others may spot it aren't they? they wouldnt do it when nobody was looking would theyby elainekirk 9/25/2011 8:28:50 PM
- @Peter, interesting water color, fits my illustration that assumed brownish cesium-vapor color for the water in Unit 3. True, we did see the bright-green water at the stairway to the Unit-3 basement sometime after, but like lilly says, that must be due to something like hydrazine that was added.by Ian 9/25/2011 8:33:42 PM
- @Peter, are these photos from a new Tepco release? I don't recall the brown water.by Ian 9/25/2011 8:35:03 PM
- Maybe the fuel pools also look so green when seen underwater due to something added.by Ian 9/25/2011 8:41:21 PM
- @Ian yeah probably a filter to cancel the 'blue' sry being flippant but I wouldnt put it past tepcoby elainekirk 9/25/2011 8:44:29 PM
- Fantastic doc for the files - Tepco's Mistatements with illustration translate.google.comby elainekirk 9/25/2011 8:46:57 PM
- 10 mSv in a Tokyo train. ex-skf.blogspot.comby lillymunster 9/25/2011 9:39:33 PM
back.. whewwwwwby dean 9/25/2011 9:56:47 PM- @lillymunster WHAT!!!!!!!!!!by elainekirk 9/25/2011 9:58:18 PM
- Hydrogen check ordered at No.2, 3 reactors
Japan's nuclear safety agency has instructed the operator of the stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant to check if hydrogen is building up in its No.2 and 3 reactors.
This is after the Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO, recently detected hydrogen in a pipe leading to the containment vessel of No.1 reactor. A hydrogen explosion occurred at the No.1 reactor on March 12th, after the March 11th quake and tsunami.
The government's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency on Sunday instructed TEPCO to check pipes in the No.2 and No.3 reactors. The No.3 reactor suffered hydrogen explosion on March 14th and No. 2 reactor had a hydrogen explosion on March 15th.
The utility says it will measure the levels of hydrogen at the No.1 reactor before injecting nitrogen and taking other measures to prevent another explosion.
The firm is expected to take similar measures if hydrogen is detected at the No.2 and No.3 reactors as well.
Monday, September 26, 2011 05:26 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano 9/25/2011 10:04:58 PM - Burying of radioactive household waste challenging
Japan's environment ministry says that the disposal of radioactive ashes from household garbage is not going well in Tokyo and surrounding areas, partly due to residents' objections.
Following the nuclear accident in Fukushima, waste facilities in the Tohoku, Kanto and Koshin-etsu regions showed that ashes in garbage from private homes contained radioactive cesium.
The ministry has set guidelines for disposing of the ashes. They say that if the level is 8,000 becquerels per kilogram or lower, the ashes can be buried. For ashes with cesium levels between 8,000 and 100,000 becquerels, the ministry says they must be deposited in cement and put in concrete vessels.
The ministry recently surveyed waste incineration facilities in the regions to see how the ash disposal is proceeding.
Of 410 facilities where cesium levels of ashes were 8,000 becquerels or lower, 22 sites mainly in the Tokyo Metropolitan area have been storing the ashes. They say they cannot bury the ashes due to residents' objections.
The survey also found ashes which had over 8,000 becquerels of cesium had not been buried at 42 facilities. They said that disposal was difficult.
The ministry plans to send officials to municipalities' meetings to explain to residents the safety of waste disposal. It also plans to demonstrate more specific ways of disposing of the highly contaminated ashes.
Monday, September 26, 2011 05:26 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano 9/25/2011 10:06:37 PM - Govt to financially support geothermal generation
Japan's Economy, Trade and Industry Ministry says it will support companies that invest in geothermal power generation projects.
Geothermal generation uses high-temperature steam produced by underground water heated by volcanic activity.
The ministry predicts that geothermal generation will be a key source of renewable energy in Japan, which has many volcanoes.
A semi-governmental body will offer grants or investment money to firms looking for suitable sites.
Companies need to raise huge amounts of money for the initial stages of these projects. Drilling a well for underground steam is said to cost 5 to 10 billion yen, or 65 million to 130 million dollars.
The ministry also plans to guarantee firms' debt to help them obtain loans for the projects from financial institutions.
It will allocate the necessary amount for the plan in the next fiscal year's draft budget.
Sunday, September 25, 2011 22:52 +0900 (JST)
www3.nhk.or.jpby Edano 9/25/2011 10:08:23 PM - go, Edano, go !by Edano 9/25/2011 10:08:37 PM
- @ Edano,, hi Edano, I wonder if the ministry will find the people receptive, expecting honest answers...by dean 9/25/2011 10:08:47 PM
- <<CNN news... tell me Mr Edano, how do you get some many news articles and details about fuku so fast.. lightening speed... ?by dean 9/25/2011 10:09:44 PM
- @dean i have a neutrino connection. i get them before they are written.by Edano 9/25/2011 10:10:34 PM
- ha ha @ Edanojby dean 9/25/2011 10:13:34 PM
- Edano*by dean 9/25/2011 10:13:41 PM
- @dean a joke:
the bartender says: "we don't serve neutrinos that are faster than light." - a neutrino enters the bar.
got it ?by Edano 9/25/2011 10:16:09 PM
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