
@you hmmm, which raises the question why radioactive strontium cumulates so easily in bones..... hmmm
by Edano 9/28/2011 11:12:29 AM

somewhat contradictory...
by Edano 9/28/2011 11:13:24 AM

@ Peter, written down
by dean 9/28/2011 11:15:36 AM

I will ask if they are going to record it and get a copy of it.. or perhaps slides etc if I can
by dean 9/28/2011 11:19:11 AM

hmm, i have to use google translate on the german wikipedia, because the english does not have it, as so often:
"Die Aufnahme von 90Sr, das etwa über belastete Milch in den Körper gelangen kann, ist gefährlich. Durch die energiereiche Betastrahlung des Isotops können Zellen in Knochen oder Knochenmark verändert und somit Knochentumore oder Leukämien ausgelöst werden. Eine Dekorporation des in die Knochen aufgenommenen Strontiums mit Chelatbildnern ist unmöglich, da diese bevorzugt Calcium komplexieren und das Strontium im Knochen verbleibt.[18] Eine Dekoporation mit Bariumsulfat ist nur möglich, wenn sie rasch nach der Inkorporation erfolgt, bevor der Einbau in Knochen erfolgen kann.[25]Auch der Abbau durch biologische Vorgänge verläuft nur sehr langsam, die biologische Halbwertszeit liegt in Knochen bei 49 Jahren, die effektive Halbwertszeit von 90Sr bei 18,1 Jahren.[26] Möglicherweise bindet 90Sr an Zellen der Nebenschilddrüsen. Dies würde die Häufung von Fällen eines Hyperparathyreoidismus bei Liquidatoren des Reaktors in Tschernobyl erklären."
"The uptake of 90Sr, which may be released about the body via contaminated milk is dangerous. Due to the high-energy beta radiation of the isotope, cells in the bone or bone marrow and thus altered bone tumors or leukemias can be triggered. One of the Dekorporation recorded in the bone strontium chelation is impossible, because this complex remains the preferred calcium and strontium in bone. [18] A Dekoporation with barium sulfate is only possible if it occurs rapidly after incorporation before the installation done in bone can. [25] the degradation by biological processes happen very slowly, the biological half-life in bone at 49 years, the effective half-life of 90 Sr at 18.1 years. [26] binds may 90Sr in cells of the parathyroid glands. This would explain the clustering of cases of hyperparathyroidism in the reactor in Chernobyl liquidators."
de.wikipedia.orgby Edano 9/28/2011 11:20:28 AM

@Peter but it also prevents calcium from reaching the bone...
by Edano 9/28/2011 11:24:41 AM

this is all too complex to leave it to busby's pills. the theory is useless without conclusive animal or human experiments.
by Edano 9/28/2011 11:29:17 AM

@Edano and Peter, I find it somewhat hard to believe that science has not progressed to the point of being able to stop the damage done when being exposed to the radioisotopes... about all I hear is salt tablets and then the natural things like kelp..
by dean 9/28/2011 11:33:49 AM

@dean i think the question is, who pays for that science ? we know that research is only done when profit is high enough...
by Edano 9/28/2011 11:36:04 AM

@Edano isn't that a shame
by dean 9/28/2011 11:36:19 AM

@dean yes.
by Edano 9/28/2011 11:36:51 AM

it would be logical to force the nuke industry to pay for it. but this rises energy prices.
by Edano 9/28/2011 11:37:41 AM

or iaea.
by Edano 9/28/2011 11:38:17 AM

if industry produces harmful fallout they should develop what ever it takes to stop the affects on things like fallout from accidents... BEFORE they approve it
by dean 9/28/2011 11:39:46 AM

@dean agreed. the liability thing again.
by Edano 9/28/2011 11:41:11 AM

privatise the profit, socialise the damage.
by Edano 9/28/2011 11:42:27 AM

that's the CORPORATE way
by dean 9/28/2011 11:42:57 AM

and leave the debts to the next generation.
by Edano 9/28/2011 11:43:47 AM

@Edano.. the whole system is BROKEN and even with all the regulation or lack thereof, when these types of accidents occur, society suffers the blunt are those affected are quickly forgotten
by dean 9/28/2011 11:46:10 AM

@dean in many fields and respects our way of life is suicidal.
by Edano 9/28/2011 11:49:11 AM

Japan Atomic Power to study nuclear plant feasibility in VietnamTOKYO, Sept. 28, Kyodo
english.kyodonews.jp by Edano 9/28/2011 11:49:28 AM

I wonder, if Albert Einstein would have gone on to live up until now, what the world of energy production technology would be like today
by dean 9/28/2011 11:56:27 AM

Lucas Hixson finally did something really useful. He did a FOIA on the NRC and got some of their correspondence during the first days of Fukushima. This is one letter, others are in the links at the end. Trying to sort through his mess of a site to find them all.
enformable.comby lillymunster 9/28/2011 11:57:28 AM

Daily Kos seems to have scraped them together.
www.dailykos.comby lillymunster 9/28/2011 11:58:17 AM

enformable.com Ft Calhoun can't afford repairs, company doesn't have enough money in their coffers
by dean 9/28/2011 12:00:37 PM

enformable.com @ Edano have you seen this one?... some discussion on graphs
by dean 9/28/2011 12:03:26 PM

@dean I wrote on that two weeks ago. OPPD is scrambling for cash. What is it going to take to make them shut down Calhoun. They really need to just give it up.
by lillymunster 9/28/2011 12:03:44 PM

The ANS was working with the NRC to create talking points for the public. Sounds like the UK situation. Why is the media not all over this?
by lillymunster 9/28/2011 12:05:28 PM

@ lilly.. I think the trend on NPP's that still have some life left is to sell them to other companies who will run the blood right out of them until they cannot get extensions..
by dean 9/28/2011 12:05:36 PM

@ lilly the media is too interested in that michael jackson doctor trial.. sigh
by dean 9/28/2011 12:06:08 PM

@lilly,, in my opinion allowing utilities to dump older reactors off on investors who care only about shedding profits while reducing maintenance etc on the plant and then let it degrade should be ILLEGAL..
by dean 9/28/2011 12:10:57 PM

it's like buying the second hand car and run it until it stops..
by dean 9/28/2011 12:11:37 PM

the cost of dealing with decommissioning and shutting the plants down has evolved to the easiest way out.. just extend the life another 20 years.
by dean 9/28/2011 12:12:48 PM

More NRC emails
www.dailykos.comby lillymunster 9/28/2011 12:12:59 PM

@dean that seems to be what is going on at Calhoun. The staff is even admitting to the media that there are major problems with leadership and daily operations at the plant.
by lillymunster 9/28/2011 12:14:24 PM

How do I give input on Calhoun? The NRC doesn't seem to want public input on the situation. Can individuals file some sort of intervention?
by lillymunster 9/28/2011 12:15:11 PM

@lilly, write your local and state representatives and then your WDC reps and demand answers...
by dean 9/28/2011 12:18:59 PM

I have done that with mine and at least get some responses.. especially if they see I am not going away
by dean 9/28/2011 12:19:28 PM

@lilly,, did you see the news article on DUKE Energy about going forward with building 2 more coal fired plants while admitting that there is a major problem in this country with emissions (co2).
by dean 9/28/2011 12:23:36 PM

be back
by dean 9/28/2011 12:23:43 PM

back
by dean 9/28/2011 12:35:54 PM

I wonder if we could get the data for the simulation they ran at Dresden, or at least the conclusions sent to the NRC
Mention of Chairman's meeting with Obama the morning of the 12th and sending a 60-70 member team to assess the disaster. Notice that the nuclear industry internationally was already busy mustering support for TEPCO and a confirmation that Exelon was running simulations at Dresden.
by lillymunster 9/28/2011 12:36:54 PM