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@Edano, and so it's amazing to think that what we're looking at on the land is just a fraction of the total fallout. And moreover, as the report we looked at weeks ago concluded, most of the radioactive zone was caused when it rained on the evening of March 15. So the land contamination is but a tiny glimpse of all that passed over the land!
by Ian 9/28/2011 7:08:58 PM

Look at this amazing factoid, Chernobyl blew in 1986, but "Chernobyl-derived stratospheric fallout continued until the end of 1988." Page 14 : www.nfznsc.gn.apc.org
by Ian 9/28/2011 7:12:24 PM

Sorry, correct link: www.strahlentelex.de
by Ian 9/28/2011 7:15:46 PM

well knock me down with a feather NISA has grown a pair and INSTRUCTED TEPCO
NISA orally gave the following instructions
to TEPCO.
(1) For the CCS line, the overall work shall be carried out after the
hydrogen concentration is measured and appropriate actions, such as
discharge and replacement of hydrogen, are taken.
(2) For other lines, the hydrogen concentration shall be deliberately
measured before starting the work, because a possibility of the
accumulated hydrogen cannot be eliminated.
(3) Efforts shall be made to measure the hydrogen concentration in the
PCV.
(4) Similar actions shall also be taken for Units 2 and 3.
www.nisa.meti.go.jp
well that has shifted things up a notch I think I need a coffee
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 7:21:12 PM

www3.nhk.or.jp

Analysis: ANA plane almost made inverted flight

Japan's Transport Safety Board has found that an All Nippon Airways passenger plane nearly flew upside down while suddenly descending over the Pacific Ocean this month.

The Boeing 737 carrying 112 passengers made a steep descent off Shizuoka Prefecture, central Japan, on the night of September 6th, while flying from Naha, Okinawa, to Tokyo's Haneda Airport. Two cabin attendants were slightly injured.

The accident occurred when a co-pilot mistakenly turned a switch to trim the rudder of the plane's tail fin while intending to turn a switch to open the cockpit door. The 2 devices are set slightly apart from each other.

The plane descended 1,900 meters in about 30 seconds.

Analysis of the plane's flight recorder found that the plane banked right slightly, turned left, circled sharply and made the descent nearly upside down.

Investigators say the plane's passengers were unaware of the accident and probably felt the plane rise sharply as if it were in a changing air current.

Wednesday, September 28, 2011 20:32 +0900 (JST)

sorry, off topic but cool.
www3.nhk.or.jp plus video with simulation.
by Edano via Www3.nhk.or.jp 9/28/2011 7:32:22 PM

strange things are happening on my comp
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 7:38:13 PM

@elainekirk the gremlin ?
by Edano 9/28/2011 7:38:29 PM

@Edano I started reading it it disappeared I refreshed and it is back???
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 7:39:14 PM

@elainekirk www.fugly.com :)
by Edano via Fugly 9/28/2011 7:41:22 PM

@Edano eeeeeeeek
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 7:43:37 PM

www.bashblog.org sorry, i can't help it. :)
by Edano via Bashblog.org 9/28/2011 7:43:42 PM

@Edano Oh I want one of those
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 7:44:08 PM

@elainekirk just shave your cat :)
by Edano 9/28/2011 7:45:58 PM

@Edano I have no cat only dogs :( and they been shaved as much as I dare
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 7:58:05 PM

The nrc have released all emails etc pertaining to Japan and the quake/fuku/tepco
1- 368 pages pbadupws.nrc.gov
2 - 563 pages pbadupws.nrc.gov
3 - 168 pages pbadupws.nrc.gov
.
this is a copy of the foi which requested the release pbadupws.nrc.gov
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 8:04:34 PM

@elainekirk have you read anything about the panels ? they do not make any progress. the panel from yesterday was obviously not installed.
by Edano 9/28/2011 8:42:19 PM

@Edano ooo that will give me something to do
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 8:47:29 PM

@Edano just a thought is it possible that they have to stop until they have sorted the hydrogen situation ? the 28th translate
9 / 28 ° Ray containment system Staple Unit 1 (CCS) measurements of hydrogen concentration in the pipe translate.google.co.uk I will look for english did you see the nisa instructions re hydrogen ? www.nisa.meti.go.jp
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 9:04:20 PM

maybe ......
by Edano 9/28/2011 9:06:07 PM

@Edano I can find no mention of it for the 28th I will try for the previous week
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 9:07:04 PM

@Edano nope they just have the summary docs for each day saying the work started on the 9/10th
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 9:10:25 PM

@Edano what are harmonic tremors?
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 9:12:52 PM

Any thought? This guy isolates high radiation to be coming from the overhead air vents on this train.
by Ian 9/28/2011 9:15:22 PM

@elainekirk : typical tremors from vulcanos, due to magma movements. i have read about it when i investigated corium movements :) en.wikipedia.org
by Edano 9/28/2011 9:24:06 PM

@elainekirk in the context of volcanoes/earthquakes, USGS states the following "Harmonic tremor describes continuous rhythmic earthquakes that can be detected by seismographs. Harmonic tremors often precede or accompany volcanic eruptions" earthquake.usgs.gov wiki has similar info en.wikipedia.org
by RonD 9/28/2011 9:24:27 PM

@RonD @Edano ty very muchly
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 9:27:43 PM

@Ian very interersting. seems they forgot to change a filter.
by Edano 9/28/2011 9:31:07 PM

@Ian and the passengers just ignre it I am gobsmacked
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 9:39:04 PM

@elainekirk yes, i thought: typical japanese... don't see, don't hear, don't speak. they behave like people in totalitary states.
by Edano 9/28/2011 9:40:22 PM

@elainekirk can you imagine a pregnant woman sitting there? If he had a counter that makes clicks, it would have been almost white noise. It reached 10 uSv/hr when he sat there himself in an earlier video.
@Edano, right, I thought that. But you'd think a lot of people would notice this wrt air conditioners. That's a huge dose, up to 100x normal background.
by Ian 9/28/2011 9:44:11 PM

@Edano @Ian I am no psychologist but I think there is , maybe as a result of the bombs, but they trust the government , they had bombs dropped on them and the government made everything alright . They don't seem to comprehend that a bomb doesnt leave ongoing radiation spreading around in the way that fuku is and everybody is being very careful not to tell them that this is not like the bombs
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 9:49:41 PM

@elainekirk i think the submissive behaviour is much older than the bomb.
by Edano 9/28/2011 9:51:33 PM

Fukushima’s Contamination Produces Some Surprises at Sea Ken Buesseler, a scientist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, who in 1986 studied the effects of the Chernobyl disaster on the Black Sea, said the Fukushima disaster appeared to be by far the largest accidental release of radioactive material into the sea. green.blogs.nytimes.com
by M.I.A. 9/28/2011 9:51:59 PM

@M.I.A. blimey I thought after the financial input they got that their silence had been bought we have heard nothing for months

by elainekirk 9/28/2011 10:01:47 PM

@elainekirk The truth comes out sooner or later. Alas, with the "Big Boys" it usually happens too late.
by M.I.A. 9/28/2011 10:08:38 PM

@elainekirk, I'd have taken his readings seriously and moved away from that area! There'd be little lost if his reading was wrong but possibly much lost if it was right. The logic seems obvious to move!
by Ian 9/28/2011 10:12:01 PM

@Ian but it was an english speaking person to have responded to him in front of your countrymen, to have put his information above the silently voiced one of your fellow countrymen would bring shame on the person who moved and poosibly get them ostracised. Tha is how it works in Japan
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 10:15:50 PM

I don't think I want to understand this translate.google.com
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 10:25:29 PM

plant status for the 28th stops at 27th ??? www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 10:44:34 PM

www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 10:46:22 PM

Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station Unit 1
Replacement of nitrogen at connector of gas monitoring system of containment vessel www.tepco.co.jp
by elainekirk 9/28/2011 10:47:38 PM

Finally back. Good find on the NRC FOIA docs Elaine!
by lillymunster 9/28/2011 11:09:11 PM

ah, they are giving the panels another try.
by Edano 9/28/2011 11:11:14 PM

Palasades to be inspected (via NRC email)
The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission has started a Special Inspection to review the
circumstances around the work activities that led to a reactor shutdown on Sept. 25 at the Palisades
Nuclear Power Plant.
The plant is operated by Entergy and is located in Covert, Mich., about 70 miles southwest
of Grand Rapids.
The issue involved plant workers who were performing maintenance activities on an
electrical panel when a small metal piece located inside the breaker panel came into contact with
another metal piece and caused an arc. This resulted in a series of electrical issues that caused the
plant to shut down and sent signals to multiple plant systems causing certain safety pumps to start
and some safety valves to reposition. The plant shut down safely and will remain shutdown until
plant workers determine what happened and resolve the issues. No workers were injured from this
event.
“The plant is in a safe shutdown condition but we have a number of questions about the
complexity of the series of events that led to the reactor trip and want to better understand the
actions taken by the plant staff before the reactor shutdown and in response to the event,” said NRC
Region III Administrator Mark Satorius.
The special inspection team began work on Tuesday and will review the sequence of events,
evaluate the facts and circumstances, and review the plants actions surrounding the automatic
reactor shutdown. The team will also review the plant’s evaluation of what happened, their
corrective actions, and determine if there are any lessons to be learned from the event.
The NRC’s special inspection report will be available within 45 days of the inspection’s
completion through the NRC RIII Office of Public Affairs or through the Agencywide Documents
Access and Management System (ADAMS) at the NRC website.
by lillymunster 9/28/2011 11:12:33 PM