Japan Earthquake

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If I read this right, water comes from the fire protection system and
the water make up system into the tanks to cool water that used go
to the steam turbines. This water is heated and released as steam to the
air, which would be visible, but it doesn't say if this goes out the stack.
Since it is isolated, there would be very little radiation from this water
since the reactor water only has some radioactivity from short-lived nitrogen.
I assume that power is neccesary to activate the system, though there may be
a manual valve some place, but certainly power would be needed to refresh the
water. Probably the water rapidly evaporated rendering the IC useless after a
short amount of time. The turbine driven system powers supply of water without
ac power or generator power.
by artnuke 10/12/2011 6:59:47 PM

@lillymunster There have also been some pioneering projects from Japanese and German car manufacturers testing the viability of hydrogen cell propulsion systems for cars and public buses in our country. We also have a fair supply of GPL (I don't know how it is called in English but it is a mix of butane and propane gas that highly enhances fuel economy and reduces emissions for internal combustion engines) and the legislation on GPL is going to accommodate some new technologies and promote the use of this fair substitute to petrol. It is cleaner, cheaper and more efficient.
by Pedro Jesus 10/12/2011 7:01:04 PM

@Pedro Jesus they have experimented with LP powered busses and city vehicles here. I have not seen one since the corn subsidies (ethanol) started. The reason I ask on wind is it is there are many critics that claim you can't operate wind consistently enough. The wind farms around here run constantly. About the only time you don't see one moving is when it is locked for maintenance.
by lillymunster 10/12/2011 7:03:52 PM

Are Regulators And The Nuclear Industry Applying The Valuable Lessons Learned From Fukushima?
vimeo.com
Fairewinds Presentation to the San Clemente City Council
Fairewinds chief engineer Arnie Gundersen discusses three nuclear safety problems uncovered during the Fukushima accident that nuclear regulators and the nuclear industry wish they could ignore. Why isn't the industry designing nuclear plants to withstand the worst natural events? Why aren't nuclear regulators, governments, and citizens who live and work near a nuclear plant prepared for a nuclear accident? How much does the NRC value human life? Finally, Fairewinds' Gundersen concludes that the NRC is not implementing adequate safety changes because the NRC believes that a serious accident is impossible.
by Liz 10/12/2011 7:09:15 PM

@artnuke , the IC does not use turbine driven-pumps. The steam and water circulate by convection.
by Peter 10/12/2011 7:17:36 PM

@lillymunster everywhere in the world there is enough wind. the problem is more the changing wind direction and too much wind, then they still turn around but are disconnected from the grid. they now test windmills with vertical blades (like modern fans) to approach both problems.
by Edano 10/12/2011 7:18:51 PM

I put together a write up based on some of the ideas last night about radiation phobia. I put it in peer review, let me know if it is on track or not. wp.me
by lillymunster 10/12/2011 7:20:16 PM

@lillymunster In 2010 Portugal was producing 17% of its net energy from wind power. I don't think there are any problems on reliability. The technology has been more than proven. Of course some studies must be conducted before deploying the wind power plants but the statistical analysis is quite forthcoming and the stability of energy production is commercially and energetically fruitful. A close friend of mine is chief of maintenance for all southern wind power plants here.
by Pedro Jesus 10/12/2011 7:24:06 PM

@lillymunster ooo that is great was just telling rockhopper in a mail that it was under discussion so when it is ready we can pass it on to her ?
by elainekirk 10/12/2011 7:31:30 PM

back
by dean 10/12/2011 7:33:00 PM

@lillymunster article is great do the Japanese know what translate mean or is it in Japanese when they see it.... I dont understand these things :)
by elainekirk 10/12/2011 7:33:22 PM

@elainekirk @lilly Maybe you could put the Japanese flag next to translate. Many websites (online shops for example) use
country flags for that purpose.
by Pedro Jesus 10/12/2011 7:36:09 PM

@Pedro Jesus thats a good idea
by elainekirk 10/12/2011 7:37:42 PM

Press conference held to introduce legislation that addresses DOI Secretary Salazar's plans to halt uranium mining in Arizona.
www.youtube.com
by Liz 10/12/2011 7:39:46 PM

@elainekirk translate I think shows up in Japanese? If you click on the translate text the drop down of flags shows up to pick language. It is a google product I should see if they have an upgrade that is a bit more user friendly.
by lillymunster 10/12/2011 7:46:16 PM

meerwald.net
www.hotelstadthalle.at
www.enviamwelt.de
www.umweltdialog.de
image.architonic.com
www.baulinks.de
www.co2-handel.de
some vertical turbines :)
by Edano via Meerwald.net 10/12/2011 7:46:36 PM

meerwald.net
www.hotelstadthalle.at
www.enviamwelt.de
www.umweltdialog.de
image.architonic.com
www.baulinks.de
www.co2-handel.de
some vertical turbines :)
by Edano via Hotelstadthalle.at 10/12/2011 7:46:36 PM

meerwald.net
www.hotelstadthalle.at
www.enviamwelt.de
www.umweltdialog.de
image.architonic.com
www.baulinks.de
www.co2-handel.de
some vertical turbines :)
by Edano via Enviamwelt.de 10/12/2011 7:46:36 PM

meerwald.net
www.hotelstadthalle.at
www.enviamwelt.de
www.umweltdialog.de
image.architonic.com
www.baulinks.de
www.co2-handel.de
some vertical turbines :)
by Edano via Umweltdialog.de 10/12/2011 7:46:36 PM

meerwald.net
www.hotelstadthalle.at
www.enviamwelt.de
www.umweltdialog.de
image.architonic.com
www.baulinks.de
www.co2-handel.de
some vertical turbines :)
by Edano via Image.architonic 10/12/2011 7:46:36 PM

meerwald.net
www.hotelstadthalle.at
www.enviamwelt.de
www.umweltdialog.de
image.architonic.com
www.baulinks.de
www.co2-handel.de
some vertical turbines :)
by Edano via Baulinks.de 10/12/2011 7:46:36 PM

meerwald.net
www.hotelstadthalle.at
www.enviamwelt.de
www.umweltdialog.de
image.architonic.com
www.baulinks.de
www.co2-handel.de
some vertical turbines :)
by Edano via Co2-handel.de 10/12/2011 7:46:36 PM

There are lots of DIY articles to make vertical turbines for home use. Of course they are smaller.
by lillymunster 10/12/2011 7:48:14 PM

loving those turbines they are works of art
by elainekirk 10/12/2011 7:49:42 PM

by Ian 10/12/2011 7:53:26 PM

Wind spires are both beautiful and bird friendly.
by Ian 10/12/2011 7:55:47 PM

I have an idea.. instead of using Pu for reactors how about we make small scale generators from the heat given off the Pu238..
by dean 10/12/2011 8:19:39 PM

@dean
with the left overs?
by elainekirk 10/12/2011 8:25:37 PM

yes... they already make small batteries for unmanned flights in space..
by dean 10/12/2011 8:27:13 PM

adaption of that
by dean 10/12/2011 8:27:17 PM

Radioactive Cesium from Breast Milk from Mothers in Hiroshima Prefecture, 840 km from Fukushima I Nuke Plant
One mother had lived in Hiroshima since before the March 11 nuclear accident. The expert at Hiroshima University who measured the density of radioactive cesium suspect it is internal radiation from ingesting contaminated food.
Hiroshima is over 840 kilometers from Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant. ex-skf.blogspot.com
by Majj 10/12/2011 8:34:49 PM

Oyster Creek is shutting down for good!
by lillymunster 10/12/2011 8:35:09 PM

Mr. Michael J. Pacilio
President and Chief Nuclear Officer
Exelon Nuclear
4300 Winfield Road
Warrenville, IL 60555
SUBJECT: OYSTER CREEK NUCLEAR GENERATING STATION - NOTIFICATION OF
INTENT TO PERMANENTLY CEASE OPERATIONS (TAC NO. ME5401)
Dear Mr. Pacilio:
This letter acknowledges and confirms receipt of your letter dated January 7, 2011 (Agencywide
Documents Access and Management System Accession No. ML 110070507), submitted
pursuant to Title 10 of the Code ofFederal Regulations, Part 50, Section 50.82(a)(1 )(i). That
letter informed the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) of your intent to permanently cease
operations at the Oyster Creek Nuclear Generating Station no later than December 31,2019,
contingent upon issuance of a draft New Jersey Pollution Discharge Elimination System Surface
Water Permit. The draft permit was issued on June 1, 2011.
We will continue to verify the safe operation of the plant via the planned oversight under the
Reactor Oversight Process. Additionally, the NRC staff will factor the new date for cessation of
operations into planned oversight activities related to operational decisions.
Si(];'11«~
G. Edward Miller, Project Manager
Plant Licensing Branch 1·2
Division of Operating Reactor Licensin
by lillymunster 10/12/2011 8:35:11 PM

@lillymunster 2019 ???
by Edano 10/12/2011 8:36:52 PM

@Edano came online on December 1, 1969, and is licensed to operate until April 9, 2029
by lillymunster 10/12/2011 8:40:32 PM

From the Oyster Crk wiki

Oyster Creek was originally licensed for 40 years, but in April 2009 its license was extended for another 20 years by the United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission. "Based on the Atomic Energy Act, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) issues licenses for commercial power reactors to operate for up to 40 years and allows these licenses to be renewed for up to another 20 years. A 40-year license term was selected on the basis of economic and antitrust considerations, not technical limitations."[9]
by lillymunster 10/12/2011 8:42:09 PM

It sounds like there was a major fight to stop Oyster Creek from continuing to operate. This may have been the last straw for Exelon on top of the mounting legal fights.

In December, 2010, Exelon reported that Oyster Creek will close in 2019, 10 years earlier than planned and will not have to install cooling towers.

They also mentioned that the court case pointed out no metals tests were done inside the RPV to prove there isn't embrittlement. The fight with OC seems to show the path to un-do these license renewals.

en.wikipedia.org
by lillymunster 10/12/2011 8:47:11 PM

Also this? In early May 2011, the operator of the plant reported that its fuel supplier, General Electric, notified it that mathematical errors were made which could resulted in reactor fuel’s getting hotter than operator thought
by lillymunster 10/12/2011 8:48:13 PM

NRC should put all extensions on hold pending review and they should at a minimum notify utilities that the extensions granted in the last 5 years or so will be reduced to 5 years .
by dean 10/12/2011 8:50:05 PM