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  • Review of 2011: Figures following Fukushima
    03 January 2012
    The number of operating reactors fell in from 441 at the beginning of 2011 to 435 in early 2012, representing a decrease in installed nuclear capacity of around 10 GW or 3%.

    Six new reactors (3977 MW) were connected to the grid in 2011, but over double that were closed (11,358 MW), most as a direct response to the Fukushima accident in March. Construction started on just two new reactors in 2011.

    As in the past few years, the new reactors coming online were primarily in Asia: Kaiga 4 (India) Chasnupp 2 (Pakistan), Ling Ao 4 and Qinshan 2-4 (China), Kalinin 4 (Russia) and Bushehr 1 (Iran). www.neimagazine.com
    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 4:50:37 PM

  • Breaking News: Whistle-blower talks, container vessel is melting like honeycomb
    January 3rd, 2012 (translated) '...Probably the iron part of the core is uranium pellet unreacted – not sure yet because it’s still before the analysis.

    It’s beyond the max reading of 500X100 CPM. These yellow concrete slags come out from under the building one after one. It means that the container vessel is melting like honeycomb at least – doesn’t it? Otherwise why would metal uranium comes out of there ?...' '...Can you see this big metal crystal (extremely radioactive) and the oxidized concrete looking like yellow cake? Can you believe it is out of the container vessel. It’s over 500 mSv/h, my geiger counter went over the limit.

    was scared so put it back to the shelter soon as I took a couple of the pictures....' Great Photos!! fukushima-diary.com
    by MaryW 1/3/2012 4:51:06 PM

  • they are drilling holes under #2 ???
    by Edano 1/3/2012 4:55:45 PM

  • they drilled into the corium ???
    by Edano 1/3/2012 4:56:54 PM

  • what?
    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 4:57:16 PM

  • All I know, It sure doesn't sound good :(
    by MaryW 1/3/2012 4:57:54 PM

  • fukushima-diary.com
    made up my mind to take out the slags from the shelter to take pictures of them.

    wore protective clothing. When it’s taken out, it was over 400 ℃ but now it’s cooled down to 100 ℃.

    Can you see this big metal crystal (extremely radioactive) and the oxidized concrete looking like yellow cake? Can you believe it is out of the container vessel. It’s over 500 mSv/h, my geiger counter went over the limit.

    was scared so put it back to the shelter soon as I took a couple of the pictures.

    by Edano via Fukushima-diary 1/3/2012 4:58:02 PM

  • by Edano via Fukushima-diary 1/3/2012 5:00:28 PM

  • Wow - it sounds like they drilled under the concrete and everything at 2 already. Whatever it is the bottom end is melting out if they found this under 2. I wish he had actual pictures of drilling.

    Edano, those are mining pictures I think for example
    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:00:51 PM

  • @lillymunster it does not look like fuku.
    by Edano 1/3/2012 5:01:24 PM

  • We knew there was the ability to honeycomb the concrete. The dense metal rebar all over inside it. Dean said it would melt first leaving tons of holes in the concrete.
    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:02:03 PM

  • it can be from contaminated cooling water as well, can't it ?
    by Edano 1/3/2012 5:03:26 PM

  • no, 400° can't be water. :)
    by Edano 1/3/2012 5:04:24 PM

  • The link on Fukushima Diary doesn't seem to go to the source of the images? Hmm.
    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:05:11 PM

  • if this is really uranium, it should definitely be hotter than 500mSv/hr. i think.
    by Edano 1/3/2012 5:09:31 PM

  • @Edano it would be mixed with all sorts of junk. IIRC other things make yellow residue. Or could not have uranium and instead a mix of melted crud?
    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:10:18 PM

  • What color were corium samples out of Chernobyl
    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:11:01 PM

  • @lillymunster we are talking about the proof of a china syndrome !
    by Edano 1/3/2012 5:11:46 PM

  • @Edano I know. Left a note on fukushima-diary about the source not linking right. Hoping he can fix the link so we can get original source.
    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:12:48 PM

  • close up of sample - no color adjustments

    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:13:37 PM

  • close up of chunk - no color adjustments

    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:14:53 PM

  • close up left side - no color adjustments

    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:16:57 PM

  • i am puzzled.
    by Edano 1/3/2012 5:20:20 PM

  • The Chernobyl melt was a silicate melt which did contain inclusions of Zr/U phases, molten steel and high uranium zirconium silicate ("chernobylite", a black and yellow technogenic mineral[39]) en.wikipedia.org(nuclear_reactor)
    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:20:52 PM

  • Other sample - top portion, porous? - no color adjustment

    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:24:04 PM

  • Hosono: Fukushima as center for nuclear safety

    Japan's nuclear crisis minister says he wants to make Fukushima Prefecture an international center to promote nuclear safety.

    Goshi Hosono spoke Tuesday to NHK and explained a plan to set up an international institute in Fukushima, where specialists would be trained in nuclear safety and advanced radiological medicine would be studied. He says training personnel will be one of the major issues to overcome with respect to nuclear safety.

    Hosono says the prefecture will be a relevant venue to learn about the basic principles of nuclear safety, as well as the long process of scrapping the reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi plant. The work is expected to take 30 to 40 years.

    Hosono says he believes lessons learned from the ongoing nuclear crisis, including the use of medicine for people exposed to radiation, must be made available to the rest of the world.

    Hosono also notes his ministry will concentrate on the development of robots that will be used to dismantle and dispose of the damaged reactors. The project is expected to rely heavily on robots to remove spent fuel rods and handle other highly radioactive material.

    The nuclear crisis minister says he believes Japanese industry will be able to boost their competitiveness by taking advantage of the new technologies that will be developed to deal with the decommissioning of Fukushima Daiichi.

    Tuesday, January 03, 2012 22:40 +0900 (JST)
    www3.nhk.or.jp
    by Edano 1/3/2012 5:25:58 PM

  • The blog post also says that it is over 500 mSv - the meter maxed out so it could be much higher. The worker says he wore protective clothing. I am hoping he meant a lead suit.
    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:25:59 PM

  • i really doubt that chernobyl boosted the competitiveness of ukraine's industry... funny idea.
    by Edano 1/3/2012 5:28:11 PM

  • detector close up

    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:28:43 PM

  • The blog he links to seems to be the same text but no pictures. Where did the images come from?
    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:32:41 PM

  • @lillymunster , not sure about the Sv. The meter says CPM.
    by Peter 1/3/2012 5:33:34 PM

  • counts per minute is becquerel.
    by Edano 1/3/2012 5:34:26 PM

  • Perhaps Sv is on the bottom scale, but there is no label.
    by Peter 1/3/2012 5:35:27 PM

  • 1 Bq = 60 dpm (disintegrations per minute) de.wikipedia.org
    by Edano 1/3/2012 5:35:44 PM

  • @Peter the writer says 500 x 100

    It’s beyond the max reading of 500X100 CPM.

    Original blog post says via machine translate:
    Time above 500 mSv, hand-held instruments for measuring

    So the original writer makes the claim. Thought it might have been a manual translation mistake.
    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:36:06 PM

  • Machine translate of the original posts:


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    Re: kite country talking to the wall 3 - 2011/12/20 (Tue) 01:52 No.6220
    The takeaway containers to be charged only lead some of the collected slag concrete (○ field Tekunoru thousand) to return with radiation into妓研.
    Or slag concrete subjected Bukkake taken to cool, probably because it was double sodium uranium chemical reaction of sodium and calcium carbonate in concrete in seawater and brackish water for the region, waiting near the yellow cake yellow. Perhaps the central metal, the metal may remain unreacted uranium pellets. Precisely because it is still hardly Analysis ago. Ejected from the floor with all kinds of slag concrete containment building of yellow and lightly shake the 500X100CPM. I'll at least I melted honeycomb What is this containment? Of metallic uranium is what comes from where else? Re: Welcome home Nasaimase utter indifference - 2011/12/22 (Thu) 10:32 No.6221 Safe and secure We understand your fate is unknown, broke worried for a while
    the way, our kite is inferred from this report and how to track fuel and nuclear meltdown last I thought those involved in health care I come to work I focused mainly nuclear accident. Including this report, we worried that I can identify with the kite to the public officials to hide this fact and I do not think that everyone knows what could possibly field workers. (What I worry unnecessarily amateur) Best wishes from far away is your health and your customers a safe kite there Re: kite country talking to the wall 3 - 2011/12/28 (Wed) 04:37 No.6224
    Taken out of the radiation shielding wearing protective clothing venture.
    Collected at a temperature of 400 degrees exceeded Temashita rubble, now cold as 100 degrees. Large metal crystals (This is terrible radiation.) Or visit the oxide form of yellow cake and the surrounding concrete. I'll have it out of the containment. Time above 500 mSv, hand-held instruments for measuring Temashita beyond the limit.
    I have taken two or three scary would hurry and finish.
    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:37:31 PM

  • Sievert is energy per kilogram, so has nothing to do with counts per minute.
    by Edano 1/3/2012 5:37:33 PM

  • Secret protection legislation: one after listening to opposing experts. (translated) Diplomacy, defense, in a wide range of security, the information could threaten national security "special secret" and that they try to aim at preventing leaks by government officials to impose severe punishment. The first government after the nuclear accident TEPCO Fukushima, hid information about the dispersal order for radioactive materials, many people were exposed.

    Secret protection under the law, "the maintenance of public security and order" because they shake, there may also be specified in such information confidential. translate.google.com
    by MaryW 1/3/2012 5:40:29 PM

  • i cannot believe that a worker can take out highly radioactive samples and make secret photos. this is a strange story. don't know if we can trust it.
    by Edano 1/3/2012 5:44:24 PM

  • it is also strange that we have not heared of drillings before.
    by Edano 1/3/2012 5:48:46 PM

  • The pics of the drill seem to stem from somewhere else. The guys were not even wearing tyvec suites. The description of the drilling operation may be real.
    by Peter 1/3/2012 5:50:24 PM

  • I want more proof also. We have known they plan to drill into containment for almost a month. They moved the date twice. To end of Dec then Mid Jan
    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:50:41 PM

  • @Peter I think the drill pics were to explain, not claims they are at fuku
    by lillymunster 1/3/2012 5:51:05 PM

  • @lillymunster Re: Your post of the translation. Above that, the translation reads: 'Tip from a reader. Certain message board. In no 2ch. Link does not dare. To determine the contents of each one.' Also, lillymunster, everyone wants more proof :), but in my opinion, the truth is worse than trying to get from a communist county. This government's style of truth is of a degree no one has ever experienced.
    by MaryW 1/3/2012 5:55:42 PM

  • For whatever it is worth: 50,000 CPM equals 3 megaBq equals 80 microCi, which does not seem much. But then the meter was maxed out. Plus, greater than 0.5 Sv/h is a lot. Perhaps someone knowledgable can make a positive identification based on the photographs.
    by Peter 1/3/2012 6:04:18 PM

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