Japan Earthquake

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@Bobby I follow this blog that gives info daily , it isnt proffessional and that is why I like it it is real and you feel involved japan-afterthebigearthquake.blogspot.com if you look at the very top there is a 'make your own blog' button
by elainekirk 4/14/2011 4:33:45 PM

@elainekirk thanks
by Bobby1 4/14/2011 4:38:24 PM

@Nancy - You mention having a "reliable water supply" for your garden. How is this protected from radiation? I have a polytunnel, but am trying to figure out how to get uncontaminated water to it.
by highlander 4/14/2011 4:40:52 PM

Is it just me or has there been an odd absence of steam on the Tepco cam since 4/12? Prob. discussed already? pointscope01.jp
by gabe 4/14/2011 4:42:15 PM

It's been pretty clear. We know they have had to be very careful with amounts of water, but also, it's warmer there, drier air. Still, it strikes me as odd too.
by radioguy 4/14/2011 4:44:04 PM

@gabe I've noticed small plumes of dark smoke (barely visible on cam) and steam before 10:00am Japan time, but I agree that it has appeared to be less so in the last few days.
by LM 4/14/2011 4:46:45 PM

@highlander city water as long as the city water tests ok. Dehumidifier and fish tank, we also have a water distiller. I also thought about getting an inline charcoal filter for the garden hose and maybe one for the house if we start having questionable water here. Supposedly from what I read brita type filters will lock up the contaiminents. The better whole house filters that sit in a canister and you connect pipes or hose to run through it could serve the same purpose. We use those inline ones when we go camping for weeks in western PA because the water is so full of iron. They are easy to set up.
by Nancy 4/14/2011 4:47:42 PM

@LM @radioguy Not too warm in the morning...SFP temp has been increasing. May be something bad or good? I thought I may have seen some, but it has definitely reduced.
by gabe 4/14/2011 4:49:13 PM

The RST Assessment of Fukushima Daiichi Units www.nirs.org
by Tenzing via I51.tinypic 4/14/2011 4:50:09 PM

@Tenzing Don't you think that Common Pool listing is the CSFP?
by radioguy 4/14/2011 4:52:48 PM

@Tenzing I more intrigued by the disparities in the individual SFP numbers. R1 SFP is 200 short. R4 is 200 high even when you count both the spent load and the half-spent reactor load. I'm still trying to get a handle on what's happening there.
by radioguy 4/14/2011 4:55:38 PM

@all, 5.1 earthquake in Mindanao, Philippines. 27 minutes ago.
by Janis Moulton 4/14/2011 4:56:24 PM

@Nancy - Thank you for that insight. Will be looking into.
by highlander 4/14/2011 4:57:56 PM

@Janis Moulton And just prior one in the Greenland Sea. Haven't seen one there in the past few days.
by radioguy 4/14/2011 4:57:58 PM

@Nancy It's my understanding that the solubility of the iodine and cesium means only a reverse osmosis filter is really effective. It's sad that it's come to a place where we suddenly have to worry about things like that.
by radioguy 4/14/2011 4:59:50 PM

I'm researching this all now for radio reports, and have calls in to Berkeley NUC to try to find someone for backgrounders, and hopefully pointers to reliable sources. I wonder how invested the people there are in the nuclear industry.
by radioguy 4/14/2011 5:01:48 PM

@radioguy, I didn't know until today that they were common up in that area.
by Janis Moulton 4/14/2011 5:06:06 PM

@Janis Moulton This is interesting in getting a feel for world historical seismicity over the last 100 years or so: earthquake.usgs.gov
by jay 4/14/2011 5:08:25 PM

@radioguy It appears that iodine can be trapped in carbon filters. It does not say if cesium can also or if that requires reverse osmosis or distillation. blogs.forbes.com
by Nancy 4/14/2011 5:10:14 PM

quakes.globalincidentmap.com

The hybrid view of the global quake map is illuminating.
by radioguy 4/14/2011 5:10:24 PM

@Nancy We're going to need to keep tabs on that stuff. People are suddenly beginning to ask what they can do.
by radioguy 4/14/2011 5:11:05 PM

@jay, whoa. Thanks.
by Janis Moulton 4/14/2011 5:11:40 PM

@jay excellent.
by radioguy 4/14/2011 5:12:14 PM

@radioguy bobbi expressed interest in helping get that going. I should have more time next week barring a flood of new photos so could pitch in and help. But yes, tracking historical readings so we can get an idea of build up of long half life isotopes and also getting an easy to understand list of what you can do to help yourself could be a help to people here and for the general public to get an honest answer and quick info. I know there is lots of dismissal as any concern over contamination is fear and hype. But this constant fallout of longer lived things like cesium are building up. We need to gather that evidence for people's use and to fact check we are getting honest info from agencies and govt.
by Nancy 4/14/2011 5:22:11 PM

@radioguy , I checked a bit on water filtering myself and came across this reference: en.wikipedia.org . Active carbon is used for filtering air and water in hot cells. Since iodine belongs in the same periodic group of elements as chlorine and cesium in the same as potassium, carbon filters should be effective, perhaps not as effective as reverse osmosis. It is important to change the filters more often than recommended, because once they are exhausted they may release their content in a large chunk. You do want to avoid that.
by Peter Melzer 4/14/2011 5:30:11 PM

I'm thinking it's a community service as well, so I can put it on our mostly unused ( 75% finished) blog. It's wordpress, so I can set up static pages pretty easily.
by radioguy 4/14/2011 5:32:13 PM

I'll move this to the organize page.
by radioguy 4/14/2011 5:33:31 PM

@Nancy , it might be helpful for comparison to find out how the fallout of the above ground tests of nuclear bombs in the Pacific affected the concentrations of radioisotopes in the U.S.
by Peter Melzer 4/14/2011 5:34:28 PM

For anyone interested in it, the CSFP information tends to be buried way down in the NISA Seismic Damage Information reports, immediately after Units 5 & 6 status. It's consistent, water had been maintained almost full, power/cooling restored 24 March, "As of 07:50 April 9th, water temperature of the pool was around 32℃." (Newer temps would be in newer reports, this was #84)
by Markfm 4/14/2011 5:38:09 PM

Kyodo. 01:54 15 April
NEWS ADVISORY: Important to ease unnecessary concerns on nuclear crisis: Noda

by Scilla 4/14/2011 5:38:42 PM

@radioguy Fukushima reactor status news for 2011 04 01 Fukushima Daiichi Common Spent Fuel Pool At 7:30AM on April 1, the temperature of the spent fuel pool: 89.6 degrees Fahrenheit. (32C) theenergycollective.com
by Tenzing at 10:05 AM
by Tenzing 4/14/2011 5:39:02 PM

english.kyodonews.jp
by Scilla 4/14/2011 5:39:18 PM

english.kyodonews.jp this man, a reporter, survived.
by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 4/14/2011 5:39:43 PM

"DR. MICHIO KAKU: Think of driving a car, and the car all of a sudden lunges out of control. You hit the brakes. The brakes don’t work. That’s because the earthquake wiped out the safety systems in the first minute of the earthquake and tsunami. Then your radiator starts to heat up and explodes. That’s the hydrogen gas explosion. And then, to make it worse, the gas tank is heating up, and all of a sudden your whole car is going to be in flames. That’s the full-scale meltdown. So what do you do? You drive the car into a river. That’s what the utility did by putting seawater, seawater from the Pacific Ocean, in a desperate attempt to keep water on top of the core. But then, seawater has salt in it, and that gums up your radiator. And so, what do you do? You call out the local firemen. And so, now you have these Japanese samurai warriors. They know that this is potentially a suicide mission. They’re coming in with hose water—hose water—trying to keep water over the melted nuclear reactor cores. So that’s the situation now. So, when the utility says that things are stable, it’s only stable in the sense that you’re dangling from a cliff hanging by your fingernails. And as the time goes by, each fingernail starts to crack. That’s the situation now." That's a quote from this article - lots of good information from Scientist Michio Kaku www.alternet.org
by James Ward 4/14/2011 5:39:56 PM

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by Tenzing 4/14/2011 5:40:56 PM

From NISA Seismic Damage #92 (the link at the top of this page, using Google Translate): April 13 8:00 - at the time the pool water temperature is about ℃ 29
by Markfm 4/14/2011 5:42:00 PM

Since 29C is a pretty mellow temperature, and it is trending down a bit, and they reportedly have both power and cooling in the CSFP, that area doesn't appear to be a problem. Maybe it is, but the reported information doesn't look bad.
by Markfm 4/14/2011 5:46:24 PM

@radioguy got a link for the blog?
by Nancy 4/14/2011 5:47:00 PM

english.kyodonews.jp Children lost in tsunami
People offer flowers in front of an entrance of Okawa elementary school, where 70 percent of its 108 students were killed or went missing in the March 11 tsunami, in Ishinomaki, Miyagi Prefecture, on April 13, 2011. A father, who lost his sixth-grade daughter, blamed the school for failing to evacuate its students promptly. (Kyodo)
by Edano via English.kyodonews.jp 4/14/2011 5:48:39 PM

Groundwater radiation level at nuke plant rises english.kyodonews.jp 400 bq/m^3 ?
by Olivier 4/14/2011 5:52:23 PM

@Olivier Here's a good quote from the article you linked: "According to the latest findings, a groundwater sample taken April 6 near the No. 1 reactor turbine building showed radioactive iodine-131 of 72 becquerels per cubic meter, with the concentration level growing to 400 becquerels as of Wednesday. The concentration level of cesium-134 increased from 1.4 becquerels to 53 becquerels."
by James Ward 4/14/2011 6:00:29 PM

@Olivier I imagine that is due to the stopping of the leak to the ocean. It had to go somewhere.
by gabe 4/14/2011 6:01:29 PM

@Edano WOW.
by jay 4/14/2011 6:06:29 PM

Question to those who have contributed here (& Reuters) since the quake. I seemed to have missed something. It appears the focus has changed to preparing to protect oneself from contents of plume (water supply/which veggies...) Are these comments tied to the 11 april Plume map posted here a few days ago? Am i reading this map correctly that the plume is expected to be as low as .1 km after the 18 April on the US West Coast? Is this where I should focus my attention, as i am i in the Oregon? Thanks. And by the way, I want you all to know that I am truly thankful to you all for the time & expertise you have shared on this blog.
by Mid Valley 4/14/2011 6:07:14 PM

@radioguy All going on around that Pacific plate eh? Been ominously quiet on aftershocks near Honshu for an unusually long time at the mo - about 8 hours so far. I'm now thinking another big one (M6+) any time in the next hour or so. The pattern there lately seems the longer the gap, the bigger the shock.
by Paul 4/14/2011 6:07:21 PM