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@Bobby1 : strontiom oxide is the lightest. but i a m not sure if this is right to assume oxides. and overmore: "oxides of caesium are known: Cs11O3, Cs4O, Cs7O, and Cs2O". so everything is a bit more complicated. iod can exist in gas state (not oxided). but yes, if oxides are right, strontium is the lightest. better to ask a chemistry prof.
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Hmm...I'm mistaken - IO5 does exists, it has a CAS registry number and stability info, but it is sensitive to light and moisture in air (meaning it probably isn't real stable under normal conditions) .

@pj Since they won't tell us, we have to figure it out for ourselves.

@you : or sulfides ........

@Jim Carver : :) forgotten.

@you : I2O4 I2O5 I4O9
Synonyms diiodine tetraoxide diiodine pentaoxide tetraiodine nonaoxide and there are several more oxid states.

Dr. Chris Busby Believes Fukushima
Was A Nuclear Explosion: www.rense.com

@ColorMeRed Thanks for the link. Please continue to post, your input is as valuable as everyone else's.

@Edano The atmospheric stuff is way out of my realm. As far as how different substances are ejected, wikipedia offers a small amount of information about Chernobyl: en.wikipedia.org

From wikipedia link below:
The release of radioisotopes from the nuclear fuel was largely controlled by their boiling points, and the majority of the radioactivity present in the core was retained in the reactor.

All of the noble gases, including krypton and xenon, contained within the reactor were released immediately into the atmosphere by the first steam explosion.
About 1760 PBq or 400 kg of I-131, 55% of the radioactive iodine in the reactor, was released, as a mixture of vapor, solid particles, and organic iodine compounds.
Caesium (85 PBq Cs-137[74]) and tellurium were released in aerosol form.
An early estimate for fuel material released to the environment was 3 ± 1.5%; this was later revised to 3.5 ± 0.5%. This corresponds to the atmospheric emission of 6 t of fragmented fuel.[73]
Two sizes of particles were released: small particles of 0.3 to 1.5 micrometers (aerodynamic diameter) and large particles of 10 micrometers. The large particles contained about 80% to 90% of the released nonvolatile radioisotopes zirconium-95, niobium-95, lanthanum-140, cerium-144 and the transuranic elements, including neptunium, plutonium and the minor actinides, embedded in a uranium oxide matrix.

@bobby1, et al - it seems you guys should keep in mind what is actually being released when trying to model or estimate "plumes". I'm not a nuclear cheerleader or anything, by any means, but I think one reason the models have slowed or stopped is because the source-term for releases from Daiichi have been drastically reduced. I have to wonder (I don't know for sure) if there is even enough being released to make it across the pacific in measurable amounts.

@Edano @pj The geographic pattern of contamination at Chernobyl indicates that most of it was due to winds considerably below jet stream level. And it is the case here, except maybe for the explosions.

@Edano Agreed about the identity of the compound - personally, if someone had asked me to guess at the compounds being produced, oxides would have been pretty far down the list (and yet, they may be exactly what is being produced - I have no idea). Not sure why, but they weren't what sprung to mind for me. ~shrug~

@Edano If iodine is moving at a lower altitude than previously assumed, it is also moving more slowly... if it is detected in significant amounts, the amount emitted from Japan must be larger than previously thought.

@Edano Only half is gone in 8 days, then another half, and... takes at least five to ten half lives depending on material.

@Jim Carver : how long takes a "fly" over the pacific ?

@Edano Probably about 1 half life in general.

@Bobby1 - Berkeley data shows I-131 following more or less the decay it should show with regards to a massive release around March 14-23...the data clearly shows decline. Food Chain contamination lags behind airborne contamination, and re: Cs and Sr - is of concern. But there is absolutely no evidence to show I-131, or anything else, is being released at the rates seen in March before they got the hoses running on everything. RE: I-131 halflife - 80 days from release until total decay into stable Iodine compounds. Daiichi spewed a LOT of I-131 at first, and there is still a large amount being contained at the plant, thats why we still see it now.

@heisenberg No one is saying that it being emitted at the March 14-23 rate, but it seems to be increasing, particularly Cs-137.

@edano I concur, Busby does appear to be a credible expert. Many have questioned Gundersen as well, but I feel that he's added some excellent theories and content too.

@Jim Carver It really doesn't appear to have, or where are the fission products we're still observing come from?

@Jim Carver : but if berkeley states rising iodine today, so this is 8 days back of today in japan, and it can be declining in fact. i am confused.