Japan Earthquake

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@Markfm Tanks
by Majjham Zazen 4/22/2011 4:07:54 PM

@Bobby1 you can email it to me at lillymunster (at) gmail.com
by Nancy 4/22/2011 4:10:39 PM

Here's the first page. Exhaustively chronicled since the very beginning and filled with vids and graphics. The changing tone of the comments is interesting. gakuranman.com
by radioguy 4/22/2011 4:11:16 PM

@Nancy sent
by Bobby1 4/22/2011 4:15:53 PM

When I say exhaustive, I mean to the level of including not only pointer to the PDFs, not relying on links, the Japanese text of those original TEPCO press releases are cut and pasted in.
by radioguy 4/22/2011 4:16:03 PM

@Majjham Zazen They have three ways to do it. The easier of the three is probably zip or tar the files and use the online uploader. Otherwise use an ftp client.
by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 4:17:14 PM

OK, the links alone, including links to citizens who translated MASSES of documents into English, are priceless. We should suck this entire site into an archive to spread it around.
by radioguy 4/22/2011 4:19:09 PM

Use the WL approach of widespread redundancy.
by radioguy 4/22/2011 4:19:50 PM

@radioguy Eggsactly.
by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 4:22:29 PM

@Mark Dolar Ty for advice! and HI
by marie rich 4/22/2011 4:25:31 PM

Y'all know I'm a computer idiot, so I don't know if this is good advice. But I think it might have got lost in the chatter so I'll repost. Perhaps you should consider a dropbox archive - set up across a handful of trusted individuals for write access, everyone else read. Syncronized copies would physically reside in potentially unlimited numbers of locations (perhaps use a removable storage medium vs. putting it on your system drive).

by Mark Dolar at 11:04 AM
by marie rich 4/22/2011 4:27:18 PM

@marie rich Yes I saw that and didn't comment because the idea was out there. I use Dropbox all the time. With Dropbox sharing you can co share stuff just by putting it into a folder on your machine.

Drawbacks are that if you let it update all the time,and people are adding and deleting a lot, or just adding, you download everything to your machine. This can hog your connection. Great for documents of ordinary size.
by radioguy 4/22/2011 4:31:41 PM

Free account with a 2GB limit
by radioguy 4/22/2011 4:32:31 PM

Have bobbi's radnet database online spreadsheets.google.com
by Nancy 4/22/2011 4:35:15 PM

@Nancy ty
by Bobby1 4/22/2011 4:36:03 PM

@Nancy EXCELLENT.
by radioguy 4/22/2011 4:36:06 PM

@marie rich I have a drop box, but 2 G isn't much and they're more expensive and less secure for larger storage than egnyte. (And also not as easy to use)
by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 4:36:24 PM

@bobbi, were these soil samples or some other kind of sample data?
by Nancy 4/22/2011 4:37:40 PM

this egnyte server has 150GB
by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 4:37:46 PM

I am loving the google functions. Oh, @Bobby1 for searches using the scribblelive url to focus search, that gakuranman.com is an excellent addition. Very Japan-centric. I'm just starting to dig through it for links. Just exhaustive.
by radioguy 4/22/2011 4:38:03 PM

@Nancy air samples mostly or all
by Bobby1 4/22/2011 4:39:53 PM

@radioguy There's a lot of things in the Japan internet sites that we don't have, but it takes a huge amount of time to dig through them.
by Bobby1 4/22/2011 4:40:58 PM

That's great
by radioguy 4/22/2011 4:42:50 PM

I D/Ded that database as an openoffice spreadsheet and it can be sliced and diced, sorted by ST, CITY, DATE for instance.
by radioguy 4/22/2011 4:44:33 PM

DL
by radioguy 4/22/2011 4:44:37 PM

@Jim Carver I use Dropbox for one thing really, to keep the non-sensitive documents I'm working on available on all of my machines. It's great for that. I use it to transfer the occasional MP3s too, loading them into my home dropbox as I walk out the door, and they're available at the station when i walk in the door.
by radioguy 4/22/2011 4:47:00 PM

@All I'm looking for someone with website development experience and time to develop a website so our site can evolve.
by George Gibb 4/22/2011 4:48:36 PM

@Bobby1 plutonium in air samples sounds significant. I could understand some in the soil in CA with some of the WWII munitions activities there but in the air? We were told plutonium was too heavy to get into the air and travel. Something isn't right.....
by Nancy 4/22/2011 4:49:27 PM

No to be obnoxious, but could all this server, document storage, website etc. talk possibly go to the other blog to keep the 'techy newsy' stuff front & center? I've been seeing more articles on the other one today. If the call has already been made to keep it here, sorry for the interruption...
by jay 4/22/2011 4:49:36 PM

@George Gibb I can help get things going. Just let me know the where and the what and who wants to contribute so we can figure it out.
by Nancy 4/22/2011 4:50:00 PM

@jay sounds like a plan.
by Nancy 4/22/2011 4:50:21 PM

@Nancy Plutonium from the Nevada bomb tests ended up in northwestern Europe.
by Bobby1 4/22/2011 4:54:26 PM

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by Tenzing 4/22/2011 4:54:55 PM

Judging by google maps, the 5.5 EQ from about 90 mins ago was centered 6 miles from Daini, which is another 6 miles from Daichi. It was also almost a direct hit on another large industrial-looking coastal facility (not Daini). Does anyone know what that is? Is it another power plant? It's located at 37°14'2.96"N, 141° 0'51.32"E
by jay 4/22/2011 5:00:38 PM

www.strahlentelex.de the pdf of "Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment" it is free this link is from wikipedia direct to the pdf.
by e123 4/22/2011 5:01:34 PM

Found it... the 5.5 EQ epicenter from 90 min ago was about a mile from Hirono Thermal Power Station en.wikipedia.org
by jay 4/22/2011 5:05:04 PM

Groundless rumors add to burdens of Fukushima evacuees www.yomiuri.co.jp
by Bobby1 4/22/2011 5:06:46 PM

... in earthquake terms, its probably safe to say it was a direct hit on Hirono Thermal Power Station - another TEPCO plant, according to wikipedia "the fourth largest oil-fired power station in the world"
by jay 4/22/2011 5:07:50 PM

@Bobby1 so much for the claim that the plutonium won't leave the plant area. If there was plutonium MOX rods involved in #3 explosion (they have to be stored in SFP) that may explain this.
by Nancy 4/22/2011 5:09:59 PM

@Nancy That would be a factor, but even the regular rods have plutonium. The percentage would be higher in the MOX rods.
by Bobby1 4/22/2011 5:11:35 PM

@Bobby1 Here's an interesting sort for your monitoring spreadsheet: ascending by isotope, then descending by measurement, then ascending by state
by radioguy 4/22/2011 5:13:31 PM

@Bobby 1 hey I just wanted to say something before i go to bed, it was a thought I had a while ago, I don't know how right I am though but it would give us a better picture? If some how we could find what actual compounds were found where, not just isotopes but there actual chemical form, I think it would go along way to explaining where they are from and how, but I may be wrong in that! @Nancy "Claim"....enough said! Pu will travel given the right conditions, to put it simply everything can travel two ways, explosive force moving it's solid state particles(dosen't go far unless it's huge) or it can be turned to a gasseous state or thereabouts and move that way.(As usual from my learning anyone correct me if I am wrong!)
by Thunder 4/22/2011 5:16:02 PM

@radioguy The beta radiation figures are interesting.
by Bobby1 4/22/2011 5:19:37 PM

I think we need to pressure the EPA for more info on the plutonium found. They would likely have that data earmarking the source.
by Nancy 4/22/2011 5:20:04 PM