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oddity still on tepycam pointscope01.jp
by Nancy via Pointscope01.jp 4/22/2011 5:22:33 PM

@Nancy Guam and Saipan have higher levels of Pu-239, as expected. Pu-238 is 270 times as radioactive as Pu-239.
by Bobby1 4/22/2011 5:23:17 PM

@Nancy: I see all black. Where's that greenish glow from earlier in the night today?
by Optim 4/22/2011 5:23:51 PM

@Optim im still seeing it
by Nancy 4/22/2011 5:24:55 PM

@Bobby 1 not only how far they can travel but also where did they come from to begin with! It would paint a much clearer picture, I always see isotope finds as "indicative of a maybe", I unfortunately disconnect from the "scary" side of things for health and well being of the people and look at it in a assesment manner...mmm, could be from about 5 or 6 different sources? @Nancy I agree about the pressuring EPA but I am not a citizen of your lands...so I can't do anything on that one! Also i would like to add....the negative results....so the testing equipment is now emitting Pu? That would explain it! Less now then when it started...what the?
by Thunder 4/22/2011 5:27:37 PM

@Thunder Dean put up this link a while back and it is an online isotope calculator among other things. nucleardata.nuclear.lu.se
by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 5:35:04 PM

@Nancy I see a glow too
by Debra Beckham 4/22/2011 5:38:18 PM

Well, regarding the Hirono plant, apparently it's already way out of commission from the EQ/tsunami www.shimbun.denki.or.jp so I'm guessing no change in status there
by jay 4/22/2011 5:38:32 PM

On the EPA spreadsheet, the top 11 readings for Gross Beta are located in Alaska, Hawaii, and the Pacific. The first entry for anywhere east of the Rockies occurs at #63 (sorted higher to lower). This strongly suggests the presence of beta emitters moving west to east.
by Bobby1 4/22/2011 5:40:19 PM

@Jim yes I have something like that on my computer....from the same place I think, @Rob in SF posted a link to it, I find it about as easy as pc tran frankly speaking! I often use this one www.periodictable.com if anyone is interested, it's just isotope data really nothing fancy, does include decay and parent chains though.

by Thunder 4/22/2011 5:41:15 PM

@Thunder Cool. Did you want a server account?
by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 5:42:55 PM

@Nancy It's morse code! dot dash is 'A', in morse. 'A' stands for atom, aha! ;)
by marie rich 4/22/2011 5:45:54 PM

teppycam is flashing morse
by marie rich 4/22/2011 5:46:10 PM

@Jim server account? Why's that, everyone can dowload the little fellow and have there own, do you want me to chase up the link? I never figured out how to actually use the thing really, just like pctran(my most hated of applications), I saw that site and went "oh, mo
re of this?" not sure if it's exactly the same thing?
by Thunder 4/22/2011 5:46:48 PM

ooops sorry, wrong page for nonsense...
by marie rich 4/22/2011 5:47:00 PM

@Thunder It's for file sharing and archive materials.
by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 5:47:44 PM

@Bobby1 damn. that does. I think this just became a priority project. Any idea how we can get that extra information to know the plutonium source?
by Nancy 4/22/2011 5:49:15 PM

@Jim oh you mean the archive of this place? If yes then how do i get there, sorry have had head in the clouds for days trying to figure out what to do on source term.....and now ain't the best time for intelligence from me!
by Thunder 4/22/2011 5:54:19 PM

@Thunder :0 Yeah just me me an email gloresis@gmail.com and that's it.
by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 5:55:37 PM

'send', geez i'm in the clouds too!
by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 5:56:48 PM

@Jim will do it now! thanks heaps!(mod can delete my post, just wanted to say thanks! and GN!)
by Thunder 4/22/2011 5:57:57 PM

images.scribblelive.com Here is the overlay of the glow.
by radioguy 4/22/2011 6:05:44 PM

I left it black for visibility.
by radioguy 4/22/2011 6:06:19 PM

back.. while I EAT LUNCH.. hi to all
by dean 4/22/2011 6:17:40 PM

jim did you check out that link I posted.. I wanted a few to test it out then I'll upload
by dean 4/22/2011 6:20:02 PM

@whoever is doing the archiving of this. Given how TEPCO is suddenly acting like they're going to try to pressure ISPs et al to delete "harmful rumors) we might also want to see about archiving at least the text from that gakuranman.com site. It's a serious blog aggregating from inside Japan. I've barely started to dig through it.
by radioguy 4/22/2011 6:20:06 PM

@dean Yeah, I looked at it. Looks good..haven't put any numbers in yet.
by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 6:25:53 PM

@radioguy I'm on it.
by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 6:27:58 PM

@Jim Carver Great. Every time I pull it open I find a link that takes me somewhere interesting. If you have a good link checker, that outputs every link spidered and checked from a given URL, that's a quick way to snatch the links.
by radioguy 4/22/2011 6:34:53 PM

@radioguy It does that automatically..well, I have to tell it what to do
. But anyway, I was wondering if they're gonna start telling us we can't spread 'rumours'
by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 6:39:08 PM

EPA Asleep in the Control Tower: www.idealist.ws 'When Elevated Radioactivity Levels are Detected or Anticipated' is the title of a subsection of a 2005 EPA draft document that discusses protocol relating to fixed EPA RADNET air monitoring stations. It reads:

'If the near-real-time gamma ROI or gross beta count rate data are higher than expected or increase suddenly, NAREL staff will remotely connect with one or more monitoring stations to initiate transfer of the full gamma spectrum file, then perform a quantitative gamma spectrometric analysis to determine the isotopic concentration in air... Upload and analysis of the gamma spectra files may also be done without waiting for detection of unusual readings, based on other indications that a radiological incident has occurred or is anticipated. Depending on circumstances, NAREL may also perform any or all of the following laboratory analyses on individual air filters:

high-resolution gamma-ray spectrometry (high-purity germanium)
Pu-238 and Pu-239 (alpha-particle spectrometry)
U-234, U-235, U-238 (alpha-particle spectrometry)
Am-241 (alpha-particle spectrometry)
Th-227, Th-228, Th-230, Th-232 (alpha-particle spectrometry)
Sr-89 and Sr-90 (gas proportional counting)...'
by Tenzing 4/22/2011 6:41:44 PM

They might tell his ISP that. I'd say they have too much on their plates to worry about that, but they always seem to just leave the important stuff untouched just to run down runorsm so who know, eh?
by radioguy 4/22/2011 6:42:30 PM

www.idealist.ws
by Tenzing via I55.tinypic 4/22/2011 6:42:36 PM

jim I've seen in here were people have been taking about scribble or what we're using.. is there some stuff going on ?
by dean 4/22/2011 6:43:24 PM

@dean I don't know. I figured at some point somebody would hit a nerve.
by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 6:44:37 PM

I think we probably already have.. makes me wonder who's looking in some times..
by dean 4/22/2011 6:45:15 PM

by e123 4/22/2011 6:45:43 PM

Unlike with reyerts we have a fallback position.
by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 6:45:48 PM

love this vid incase anyone missed it
by e123 4/22/2011 6:45:59 PM

and nothing is secure unless we own it. See if i get a s an== d order.
by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 6:48:35 PM

will be back.. 5% power on lap top..
by dean 4/22/2011 6:49:21 PM

@dean k, i prob get out 4 while
by Jim Carver 4/22/2011 6:50:05 PM

Fukushima Daiichi Open and Update Thread #5 23 April 2011 By Barry Brook Kiriyenko said the impact from the Fukushima plant disaster would not only increase safety concerns but also quicken demand for new reactors to replace the industry’s ageing plants.
“There will be a need to build new plants more quickly to more swiftly replace previous-generation plants,” he said.
He added that Russia may speed the retirement of its older generation plants in the wake of Japan’s nuclear accident. The problems at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant continue to be worked on, with no short-term resolution in sight. Here are eight recent notable happenings, compiled from various sources (see list below): bravenewclimate.com
by Tenzing 4/22/2011 6:50:17 PM