Japan Earthquake | Page 814

  • @hudebnik Aside: Lobsters don't age. Hence they're keystones in cancer and telomerase research. Now back to the end times....
    by Rob in SF 4/23/2011 10:40:16 AM

  • @Rob in SF : i don't understand the article ....
    by Edano 4/23/2011 10:48:01 AM

  • KayKodh went to sleep... Where's George? We need to discuss the remote embed license available here...
    by Rob in SF 4/23/2011 10:48:27 AM

  • @Edano The WSJ is subtle but stinging... (It's an impeccably researched article, real journalism.)

    The protocols that tell operators what to do in nuclear accidents are supposed to prevent events from spiraling out of control. The U.S.'s protocols took shape after the 1979 partial meltdown at the Three Mile Island nuclear reactor in Pennsylvania. Plant owners and equipment makers like GE banded together to create general guidelines that are then adapted for each specific reactor.

    Japanese operators are under no obligation to use the same protocols as the U.S., even when using U.S. designs such as the GE-designed reactors at Fukushima Daiichi.
    online.wsj.com
    by Rob in SF 4/23/2011 10:50:26 AM

  • @Rob in SF : okay, but it also subtily implies that the accident would not have occured in the U.S. ;) GE is preparing its defense .....
    by Edano 4/23/2011 10:57:04 AM

  • @Edano GE's peeps are good at this, TEPCO are looking like fools however. Hitachi and Toshiba seem to get it of late, but it appears they too have all US trained corporate attorneys (and PR folk).
    by Rob in SF 4/23/2011 11:28:54 AM

  • @Edano:

    Regarding the implication that the accident would not have occured in the U.S.?

    I did not find that point subtle.
    by Rob in SF 4/23/2011 11:33:36 AM

  • @Edano @Rob in SF Anything is possible. If it had happened in the US it would have been worse. The plume of radiation would have spread across the Sierra Mountains to the east and fallen over a large portion of the Great Plains. No luxury of a large ocean to dilute the fallout in this case.
    by Jim Carver 4/23/2011 11:55:49 AM

  • The Salem 1 nuclear reactor is shut down today because of problems with "grassing," the blocking of cooling water intakes by vegetation, officials said. Salem 1 was manually taken off line Thursday about 4 p.m. and remains down today as operators attempt to clear debris causing the problem. Grassing is caused by vegetation such as phragmites and other weeds and grasses growing along the Delaware River's shoreline and its tributaries becoming dislodged and floating downstream in the river. Grassing can be especially troublesome in the spring when dead vegetation moves downstream. High tides and heavy rains - like the conditions seen last weekend - can dislodge even more of the dead materials and carry them downstream. Salem 1 and its neighboring Salem 2 reactor together draw in and return 3 billion gallons of water from the river each day for cooling purposes. Hope Creek, the third reactor at the Artificial Island nuclear generating complex here, draws in only about 58 million gallons a day from the river because the plant has a cooling tower which recirculates cooling water.

    Salem 1 had been operating at reduced power - 89 percent - at the time it was shutdown after the grassing issue became more severe, according to Joe Delmar, spokesman for the plants' operator, PSEG Nuclear. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission said today that the shutdown was handled properly. "Our resident inspectors assigned to Salem observed the shutdown from the plant's control room and identified no concerns with operator or equipment response," said NRC Spokesman Neil Sheehan. "The inspectors have also concluded that PSEG's response to an increase in grassing this week was appropriate and in accordance with plant procedures used during the grassing season." Delmar said he could not estimate when Salem 1 would return to service. "River grassing continues to be an operating challenge for the Salem plants," Delmar said. "Our operators are trained to take appropriate measures when need as they did yesterday to ensure the safe shutdown of the plant. We will continue to explore opportunities to make plant modifications to lessen the impact of grassing on our plant operations," Delmar said. The Salem 2 reactor was taken off line on April 9 for a scheduled refueling outage. Each of the reactors generates enough power for 1 million homes. (RSOE Emergency and Disaster Information Service - hisz.rsoe.hu )
    by es 4/23/2011 11:59:12 AM

  • @LM "Sunflowers to the rescue. Wow....and it worked for Chernobyl" Unfurtainly LM, it not true. Bielorurussie soils are contaminated 26 past accident. The only way to remove the radionuclides will be to remove the radiactive soil (20 cm of surface) and burried them in a large sarcofage. The problem is that where to put the large sarcofage? The plants like sunflower or cannabis would help if they used before the accident happens (BIORRMEDIATION)
    by Majjham Zazen 4/23/2011 12:03:16 PM

  • Hi just back in @Jim are you there? I didnt see anything yesterday as I was in and out and looking at hamaoka which video were you thinking of?
    by elainekirk 4/23/2011 12:10:33 PM

  • @Jim Carver I got problems on Mozilla up loading but change to Opera and is going up perfect. Half of the videos are already up. By the end of the day all will be there. Plus every new one I find. ;-)
    by Majjham Zazen 4/23/2011 12:13:20 PM

  • @Jim Carver : right. one must not forget how lucky the japanese are without direct neighbors !
    by Edano 4/23/2011 12:19:00 PM

  • @Majjham Zazen @elainekirk Hi Elaine. I got this neat tool for downloading videos 'get_flash_videos', now if I can figure out where it puts the files. Sometimes that's a problem in Linux and the find file function is not as good as windoes, that's the only thing.
    by Jim Carver 4/23/2011 12:23:17 PM

  • @Rob I have found nothing to show that tepco changed their venting system when the old systems risks became known . If they still used the old system then they will have held back from venting because the risk of explosion was there from the start virtually.
    T he article seems to assume the approved venting system was in place ???
    by elainekirk 4/23/2011 12:24:27 PM

  • Kyodo News: Workers locked in battle at Fukushima, exposures to radiation rising
    english.kyodonews.jp
    by Max 4/23/2011 12:25:51 PM

  •  TEPCO News; Press Releases (Apr 23,2011)
    Status of TEPCO's Facilities and its services after the Tohoku-Chihou-Taiheiyou-Oki Earthquake (as of 4:00PM, April 23)
    Delta/New item:
    *From 0:30 pm, April 23, water has been sprayed to the spent fuel pool of
    Unit 4 by the concrete pumping vehicle.

    www.tepco.co.jp
    by Max 4/23/2011 12:27:13 PM

  • @Jim I am glad you and @majjham seem to be getting on top of it . Let me know how simple it is to use ..then again things seem to lose their simplicity once I try to use them
    by elainekirk 4/23/2011 12:28:42 PM

  • @elainekirk @Majjham Zazen Also i found out if you have to ftp into the site. I have to manually transfer the files into /Shared. I guess this is so users don't clog up the shared folder with huge files.
    by Jim Carver 4/23/2011 12:28:43 PM

  •  TEPCO News; Press Releases (Apr 23,2011)



    The results of nuclide analyses of radioactive materials in the air at the site of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station (29th release)
    Appendixes with Daiichi and Daini dust analysis
    www.tepco.co.jp
    by Max 4/23/2011 12:29:37 PM

  • EPA Radiation System Dysfunctional
    Apr 23, 2011 5:55am by Elle D'Coda in
    Health

    Daniel Hirsch, a lecturer on nuclear policy at the University of California Santa Cruz, tells us that EPA reports on radiation in rain water, drinking water, etc. are out of date by the time they're published. Levels are going up. Furthermore some of EPA's monitors have gone months without necessary repairs...so, we can't count on the EPA for information. (Recall an earlier post about the creation of EPA by collaboration between the military & nuclear industry ...to protect nuclear reputation -- not us, not the environment) www.hawaiinewsnow.com
    by Majjham Zazen 4/23/2011 12:32:05 PM

  • @jim you're faith in my abilities is heartening I seem to remember using ftp many moons ago I will go read about it and see if it wakens any dormant memory cells
    by elainekirk 4/23/2011 12:32:17 PM

  • @elainekirk Let me know if you want to try and I'll give you the settings. And of course, use the friendly open source Linux based filezilla.:)
    by Jim Carver 4/23/2011 12:34:50 PM

  • I was rooting around last night and it really is true. Some things have been removed from the web, so If you find something worthwhile--save it to disk.
    by Jim Carver 4/23/2011 12:39:40 PM

  • Tapslo's report on Cl-38 or 39, I forget, is gone for example.
    by Jim Carver 4/23/2011 12:41:40 PM

  • @elainekirk Fetch! fetchsoftworks.com
    by Rob in SF edited by elainekirk 4/23/2011 12:51:51 PM

  • Elaine and I could go together but they won't let me out of the country--too many unpaid parking tickets.
    by Jim Carver 4/23/2011 1:00:37 PM

  • Can some one try to open this site: "Safecast probe" . I do not manage. they continue doing reading and put the results in the twitter www.safecast.org I think it went down.....
    by Majjham Zazen 4/23/2011 1:05:31 PM

  • @Jim I only went for coffee will now catch up
    by elainekirk 4/23/2011 1:06:08 PM

  • @elaine@jim.. have you seen the DOE Radiological Assessment of effects from FUKUSHIMA DAIICHI NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS.. report?
    by dean 4/23/2011 1:08:00 PM

  • @Majjham Zazen 404
    by Jim Carver 4/23/2011 1:08:18 PM

  • @dean no...........
    by elainekirk 4/23/2011 1:08:21 PM

  • @dean I saw it on the wire, but didn't look at it.
    by Jim Carver 4/23/2011 1:09:07 PM

  • @rob I am on windows xp I dunno if you remember it..
    by elainekirk 4/23/2011 1:09:53 PM

  • www.slideshare.net it's sadly brief
    by dean 4/23/2011 1:10:02 PM

  • Clinton went over there and cut a deal.
    by Jim Carver 4/23/2011 1:13:19 PM

  • can anybody translate this ? mobile.city.iwaki.fukushima.jp
    by elainekirk 4/23/2011 1:17:28 PM

  • I don't think they cam put Twitter down or Flickr. They will continue go around by car ,take photos of the Geiger Counter and put it on Flickr. Then you just send a Twitter with the right link. Very smart. They have 8 Cars/Geiger Counters. Let see for how long they manage to keep going . Far I now we only have this guys out the leash of "The Nuclear Mafia"....
    by Majjham Zazen 4/23/2011 1:18:06 PM

  • S mayor a message (4 / 12)
    (April 11, 2011 (Monday) announced 7:00 pm)
    Today (April 11), regarding what was announced by Chief Cabinet Secretary, and it has not briefed in advance.
    I, stable and low measured values ​​of radiation dose rate space Niyoru Environmental Monitoring in Iwaki, why, Orimashita with a strong feeling that what is not clear indication of retreating indoors. In such, we Iwaki, the "emergency evacuation preparation area" to ensure that those that do not qualify, Dearimasu Noted.
    In this decision, and it has 受Ketome country, deemed to have admitted the safety of Iwaki City.
    Therefore, everyone also citizens, "Iwaki is safe" in that, I would like to relieved.
    Back ⑨ / city to ⑩ GAME
    by Jim Carver 4/23/2011 1:20:44 PM


  • D. Cooperation and Information sharing
    with the International Community www.meti.go.jp
    by elainekirk 4/23/2011 1:20:52 PM

  • This is a greet job . But i did not see the lat/log on it ,only before in their site www.flickr.com
    by Majjham Zazen 4/23/2011 1:21:50 PM

  • @Jim thankyou I will sit here and absorb that information from that mayor who obviously has the interests of his people.......somewhere on his list of priorities
    by elainekirk 4/23/2011 1:22:37 PM

  • @elainekirk Their pretty real at around the prefecture level, it's just when you move up the chain...
    by Jim Carver 4/23/2011 1:24:08 PM

  • Quickie sneak peek from out-of-town...

    Thanks, @Dean.
    FYI there seems to be an updated one for 04/22/2011, said to have been posted 21 hours ago.
    www.slideshare.net

    by ~rob you @dean
    > www.slideshare.net it's sadly brief

    .
    by alblee edited by elainekirk 4/23/2011 1:25:06 PM

  • @alblee HI:) @Jim this looks worthy of a place in your files www.iaea.org @rob you may like it too
    by elainekirk 4/23/2011 1:28:02 PM

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