Japan Earthquake

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@Tenzing Good information, what I could stand to watch. They were using #3 for public tours at least up until maybe 2000? Possibly earlier. If they were up to something in #3 at that point they would not have had routine tours going through that reactor plant. I do have to wonder if it has something to do with the MOX in the reactor and SFP.
by Nancy 4/28/2011 2:03:45 AM

by e123 4/28/2011 2:04:09 AM

by e123 4/28/2011 2:04:31 AM

@es There are also problems with disposing of the massive amounts of irradiated tsunami debris.
by Bobby1 4/28/2011 2:04:54 AM

by e123 4/28/2011 2:04:59 AM

@Debra Beckham I don't think I could bring myself to send my kids to school if they had to decontaminate the soil because it was that bad. Are these the areas just outside the small no-mans land zone?
by Nancy 4/28/2011 2:05:30 AM

@Nancy There was a map posted here a while ago of radiation levels at 1600 schools.
by Bobby1 4/28/2011 2:06:40 AM

@Bobby Yes. I read they were hoping to burn the large quantities of wood, make fuel pellets!
by es 4/28/2011 2:06:55 AM

@Nancy we need to find a way to make contact with the workers at Fukushima Daiichi or at least make it know there is the option of anonymous contact via this scrib site - what do you think? lets brainstorm ideas.
by Tenzing 4/28/2011 2:07:50 AM

@Deirdre that report didn't have anything to do with a playground. It was taken within the power plant from what the document said.
by Nancy 4/28/2011 2:08:56 AM

@Bobby1 the link was of readings at the NPP was my point.
by Nancy 4/28/2011 2:10:44 AM

we could also try to contact hospitals and physicians. there's got to be a way to open the door for people to reach out, the whistle-blowers are out there - they need a voice . . .
by Tenzing 4/28/2011 2:12:17 AM

@Nancy- one location is the Playground (approx 500m W-NW from Unit 1, 2) -- that's what Sampling Spot #1 is in the report
by Deirdre 4/28/2011 2:13:00 AM

by Tenzing 4/28/2011 2:14:34 AM

@dean K dean, where's the sushi? didn't bring it? ah, well i guess it's ok.
by Jim Carver 4/28/2011 2:14:47 AM

@Deirdre I think that is a "playground" on the complex grounds. 500m from unit 1 would still be within the large swath of land that is the plant complex. I think they have some employee facilities on site. Daini has a gym. So I don't think it is a school playground, seemed to be getting confused with the schools discussion.
by Nancy 4/28/2011 2:15:16 AM

@Deirdre @Nancy If all these isotopes are at the plant, you would think there would be significant amounts to the northwest of the plant, in that hot zone.
by Bobby1 4/28/2011 2:16:19 AM

whatever that means, i said i could only count to ten.
by Jim Carver 4/28/2011 2:16:37 AM

I'm going on record.. no children back in that area until the cores/SFP's are safely contained....
by dean 4/28/2011 2:16:45 AM

@nancy, @tenzig....this board really gets dangerous and will receive resistance when it takes shape in such a way that the people of Japan can actually engage it, and of course having any sort of contact with actual tepco insiders would exacerbate that phenomenon. It should also be notedthat all's potential to do lasting, tangible, substantial good would also be exponentiay increased under those conditions.
by wrshpr 4/28/2011 2:17:11 AM

some weeks ago.. I went mail to IAEA and explained that we had organized and were developing some very significant findings and had a very dedicated and talented group... I wanted to see if they wanted to some in and weigh in on some of our conversations... they sent back and said.. they liked what we are doing but were too busy with the fukushima issue.... I haven't heard much from IAEA has anyone else?
by dean 4/28/2011 2:19:52 AM

@dean I sent a mailto that address you gave, haven't heard anything back.
by Jim Carver 4/28/2011 2:20:58 AM

Significant plutonium concentrations were found up to 50km away from Chernobyl. I can't see why it would be different for Fukushima.
by Bobby1 4/28/2011 2:21:04 AM

Unfortunately, as most of our experts are tasked with handling the emergency response to Japan, we are currently unable to make anyone available.

You might try contacting experts outside of the IAEA. Below is a list of radiation experts that are known to our Radiation Monitoring and Safety Section. Please note these are not IAEA staff members but may be able to answer some of your questions.

Germany:

Prof. Dr. Christian Streffer,

Auf dem Sutan 12

45239 Essen, Germany

streffer.essen@t-online.de

Phone: +49-(0)201-492616

Prof. Dr. Joachim Breckow

Technische Hochschule Mittelhessen -THM - University of Applied Sciences Institut für Medizinische Physik und Strahlenschutz - Institute of Medical Physics and Radiation Protection joachim.breckow@mni.th-mittelhessen.de

Phone: ++49 641 309 2327

UK:

Prof. Dr. Richard Wakeford

richard.wakeford@manchester.ac.uk

Mobile: 0794 425 2082

Office: 44 1652 527 443

USA:
by dean at 4:56 PM
by Jim Carver 4/28/2011 2:22:26 AM

sorry to hear that jim... hey .. can we know who's on both of the rooms
by dean 4/28/2011 2:22:35 AM

yeh that's it Jim
by dean 4/28/2011 2:22:50 AM

Dean your opinion please and thank you
by Tenzing 4/28/2011 2:23:05 AM

Nothing yet. maybe they are too busy handling the fukushima crisis to fix their SPENT FUEL PROBLEM!!!
by Jim Carver 4/28/2011 2:24:15 AM

@dean I have not contacted IAEA but it did contact CNIC in Japan looking for images. They said pretty much the same thing. They are burning it at both ends trying to deal with things on the ground. They seemed open to talking to people once they have a chance to slow down.
by Nancy 4/28/2011 2:31:45 AM

that sounds like an invitation to return nancy.. good job
by dean 4/28/2011 2:32:26 AM

@dean 50 miles or are you talking the region? I agree, sending kids into the general area just seems short sighted.
by Nancy 4/28/2011 2:33:25 AM

50 miles that's my idea nancy.. remember way back.. I wanted people out to 150km out
by dean 4/28/2011 2:34:05 AM

@Nancy It's been a month and I'm not in this for my health. I want to see somebody pay attention for a change about this problem! I am writing this slow cause I know they can't read that fast. Hello? Do something about the spent fuel and the backup electrical systems!
by Jim Carver 4/28/2011 2:35:25 AM

I ask for so little and recieve less.
by Jim Carver 4/28/2011 2:36:19 AM

@Jim Carver Obama has said Yucca Mountain won't happen in his presidency. One of his biggest backers is a senator from Nevada.
by Bobby1 4/28/2011 2:38:30 AM

@Bobby1 Yeah I know about that. he also set the space program back about 10 years.
by Jim Carver 4/28/2011 2:39:45 AM

Fukushima reactor designer turned whistleblower says he knew reactor No 4 has been unsound for 40 years A former Fukushima Daiichi reactor designer turned whistle blower today said the crippled plant’s reactor No 4 had been relying on flawed steel to hold radiation in its core, and that he himself helped hide the defect when the reactor – which he called a "time bomb” – was built four decades ago. Charles Digges, 24/03-2011 www.bellona.org
by Tenzing 4/28/2011 2:41:26 AM

@Jim Carver There are some other groups bitching at Congress and the NRC to stop re licensing these old plants or yank their ability to operate. They are a major risk to everyone's safety. If a power outage can potentially lead to what happened in Fukushima with the right second problem it is a huge safety risk. I lived about 7 miles from one of these old plants, had I known how insanely unsafe these old BWR units are I would have never lived there.

by Nancy 4/28/2011 2:41:49 AM

Yes Dean, that wasn't the vid I meant to post and now I can't find it ;(
by Tenzing 4/28/2011 2:42:10 AM

nuclear power is unsafe full stop because humanes mess up and nuclear makes a big mess.
by e123 4/28/2011 2:43:28 AM

@Nancy I'm ready to shake things up. That's why I got in this business in the first place. I'm not scared and bring it on.
by Jim Carver 4/28/2011 2:44:06 AM

I know enough now to fight them. Because I have some knowledge and truth on my side.
by Jim Carver 4/28/2011 2:45:42 AM

Nobody wants spent fuel in their back yard. Big problem.
by Bobby1 4/28/2011 2:46:58 AM

@e123 I think the issue with Nuclear Fission Reactors is that we humans don't have control over the environment in which we build these reactors and that's a hard pill to swallow. Until we can control earthquakes - tsunamis and human greed we are simply speeding up the evolution of our own extinction, in my not so humble opinion ;)
by Tenzing 4/28/2011 2:47:58 AM

And I believe in what I am saying. Yeah but Bobby it has to go somewhere. I'll be the first person (actually the second) to say go head, bring it over here, but you have to prove to me that it is really contained.
by Jim Carver 4/28/2011 2:49:11 AM